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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
RE: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
RE: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: TRIM YOUR REPLIES
Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
FTE Pre61 - Re: Side Hood Emblems
FTE Pre61 - EFI
FTE Pre61 - Removing Overspray
Re: FTE Pre61 - Removing Overspray
Re: FTE Pre61 - Removing Overspray

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:59:41 -0700
From: "shawn"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!

Greetings!

I just discovered this newsgroup pertaining to F100 pickups etc. Does this
newsgroup offer help and suggestions to new members?
The wife and i just purchased a 1954 F100 pickup, complete body and frame
etc but no motor, nor transmission. and we hope to
bring it back to life, and experianced owners are the best source of info

Thankyou.

Shawn...

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:19:12 -0400
From: Thomas Teixeira
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!

>Greetings!
>
>I just discovered this newsgroup pertaining to F100 pickups etc. Does this
>newsgroup offer help and suggestions to new members?

Of course. That's what the list is for. For what it's worth, this is
by-subscription e-mail list, which is not quite the same as a newsgroup,
but that's mostly a technical detail.

>The wife and i just purchased a 1954 F100 pickup, complete body and frame
>etc but no motor, nor transmission. and we hope to
>bring it back to life, and experianced owners are the best source of info

Sounds interesting, but you need to think about what you want out of the
truck: Concourse restoration? Hot rod/street rod? Daily driver? Something
in between? People on this list seem to have done anything and everything
to their trucks, but just don't ask here about putting a Ch*vy engine in
it. :-)
Tom Teixeira mailto:tjt world.std.com
1935 Ford Pickup (flathead V8) http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:16:02 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!

shawn wrote:
>
> Greetings!
>
> I just discovered this newsgroup pertaining to F100 pickups etc. Does this
> newsgroup offer help and suggestions to new members?
> The wife and i just purchased a 1954 F100 pickup, complete body and frame
> etc but no motor, nor transmission. and we hope to
> bring it back to life, and experianced owners are the best source of info
>
> Thankyou.
>
> Shawn...

You've just found the best place on the Net for
F100 owners seeking help! There are literally
hundreds of people on this list and as you'll
soon see, the knowledge base is immense!

Ken Payne
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:28:02 EDT
From: Meats56 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!

Good to have you aboard Shane. Be glad to answer anything I can. I have a 56
smallwindow. I am not ashamed to even talk to you about a chevy engine in it
as that is what I have in mine. Mine is a streetrod. Are you going original
or doing a rod. let me know if I can help with some answers.


Meat
56 F-100
All GM Power
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:35:34 -0700
From: "shawn"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!

- ----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!


> Good to have you aboard Shane. Be glad to answer anything I can. I have a
56
> smallwindow. I am not ashamed to even talk to you about a chevy engine in
it
> as that is what I have in mine. Mine is a streetrod. Are you going
original
> or doing a rod. let me know if I can help with some answers.
>
>
> Meat
> 56 F-100
> All GM Power

Well the plan is to make it a daily driver, with a small V8 like a 289. as
we want great fuel economy.
and wish to lower it somewhat and install some nice 50 series T/A's and five
spokes etc
The previous owner mentioned it was the first year of the V8 overhead cam
292? which has been removed at some point.

Some of the concerns are::
1. the running boards are beyond repair, and need replacing. Are there shops
who sell new ones?
as well there are two rust spots in the back corners of the cab, and i
have heard you can also
buy replacement panels for that. No one in Vancouver Canada seems to
sell these products.
2. discovered it is 6 volt so we need to change that to 12 volt somehow
without a complete rewire if
at all possible
3. Can you also lower F100's a few inches without having to go the clip
method.
4. How much work is involved in installing a 289 if the truck apparently
came with a V8 from the factory.
will there be problems with engine mounts etc.or will she bolt right up.
Also will be installing an Automatic
tranny in it as well so the wife can drive it.
5. Any suggestions for good must have books, we bought the How to Restore
your F100, but looking for more.
Original 54 Shop manual would be great if they are available and any
others.
6. Whats the best paint to use on the frame after we get it cleaned up for
rust protection etc.

Thankyou.


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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:19:13 -0700
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!

Swawn,

Welcome aboard. Just a few personal comments;

Running boards are available from several suppliers, metal or fibreglass.
You can get them smooth or stock looking. You can even get them with a Ford
emblem. Sacramento Vintage Ford in California is a good supplier as is
Bob's F100's in Riverside, CA. Check out the Ford Trucks website for tech
articles, and suppliers (WWW.ford-trucks.com).

I can't answer any of the engine and suspension questions as I have a 429
and a front clip. As to frame paint, I personally think the POR15 product
is the next best thing to powdercoating. I've had some of the original
product on my frame for over 4 years and it still is as solid as when I put
it on. No rust has come through and this was a very rusty pitted frame.
You just wire brush the part and brush it on. No need to get blast the
part, the rust helps the paint adhere.

I got my shop manual at a swap meet here in California. If you don't have
any swaps close by you might do a little Web surfing to see what you can
come up with.

Again welcome. The people on this list are great and are unbelievably
helpful.

Dennis
55F100
> ----------
> From: shawn[SMTP:shawn intergate.bc.ca]
> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 11:35 AM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 6:28 AM
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
>
>
> > Good to have you aboard Shane. Be glad to answer anything I can. I have
> a
> 56
> > smallwindow. I am not ashamed to even talk to you about a chevy engine
> in
> it
> > as that is what I have in mine. Mine is a streetrod. Are you going
> original
> > or doing a rod. let me know if I can help with some answers.
> >
> >
> > Meat
> > 56 F-100
> > All GM Power
>
> Well the plan is to make it a daily driver, with a small V8 like a 289. as
> we want great fuel economy.
> and wish to lower it somewhat and install some nice 50 series T/A's and
> five
> spokes etc
> The previous owner mentioned it was the first year of the V8 overhead cam
> 292? which has been removed at some point.
>
> Some of the concerns are::
> 1. the running boards are beyond repair, and need replacing. Are there
> shops
> who sell new ones?
> as well there are two rust spots in the back corners of the cab, and i
> have heard you can also
> buy replacement panels for that. No one in Vancouver Canada seems to
> sell these products.
> 2. discovered it is 6 volt so we need to change that to 12 volt somehow
> without a complete rewire if
> at all possible
> 3. Can you also lower F100's a few inches without having to go the clip
> method.
> 4. How much work is involved in installing a 289 if the truck apparently
> came with a V8 from the factory.
> will there be problems with engine mounts etc.or will she bolt right
> up.
> Also will be installing an Automatic
> tranny in it as well so the wife can drive it.
> 5. Any suggestions for good must have books, we bought the How to Restore
> your F100, but looking for more.
> Original 54 Shop manual would be great if they are available and any
> others.
> 6. Whats the best paint to use on the frame after we get it cleaned up for
> rust protection etc.
>
> Thankyou.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:27:37 -0700
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!

Shawn,

A followup. ebay.com has several 1953 Ford Truck shop manuals for sale. I
don't know how different the 54 is, but this may due ya.

Dennis

> ----------
> From: O'Connell, Dennis M
> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 2:19 PM
> To: 'pre61-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
>
> Swawn,
>
> Welcome aboard. Just a few personal comments;
>
> Running boards are available from several suppliers, metal or fibreglass.
> You can get them smooth or stock looking. You can even get them with a
> Ford
> emblem. Sacramento Vintage Ford in California is a good supplier as is
> Bob's F100's in Riverside, CA. Check out the Ford Trucks website for tech
> articles, and suppliers (WWW.ford-trucks.com).
>
> I can't answer any of the engine and suspension questions as I have a 429
> and a front clip. As to frame paint, I personally think the POR15 product
> is the next best thing to powdercoating. I've had some of the original
> product on my frame for over 4 years and it still is as solid as when I
> put
> it on. No rust has come through and this was a very rusty pitted frame.
> You just wire brush the part and brush it on. No need to get blast the
> part, the rust helps the paint adhere.
>
> I got my shop manual at a swap meet here in California. If you don't have
> any swaps close by you might do a little Web surfing to see what you can
> come up with.
>
> Again welcome. The people on this list are great and are unbelievably
> helpful.
>
> Dennis
> 55F100
> > ----------
> > From: shawn[SMTP:shawn intergate.bc.ca]
> > Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 11:35 AM
> > To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 6:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!
> >
> >
> > > Good to have you aboard Shane. Be glad to answer anything I can. I
> have
> > a
> > 56
> > > smallwindow. I am not ashamed to even talk to you about a chevy engine
> > in
> > it
> > > as that is what I have in mine. Mine is a streetrod. Are you going
> > original
> > > or doing a rod. let me know if I can help with some answers.
> > >
> > >
> > > Meat
> > > 56 F-100
> > > All GM Power
> >
> > Well the plan is to make it a daily driver, with a small V8 like a 289.
> as
> > we want great fuel economy.
> > and wish to lower it somewhat and install some nice 50 series T/A's and
> > five
> > spokes etc
> > The previous owner mentioned it was the first year of the V8 overhead
> cam
> > 292? which has been removed at some point.
> >
> > Some of the concerns are::
> > 1. the running boards are beyond repair, and need replacing. Are there
> > shops
> > who sell new ones?
> > as well there are two rust spots in the back corners of the cab, and
> i
> > have heard you can also
> > buy replacement panels for that. No one in Vancouver Canada seems to
> > sell these products.
> > 2. discovered it is 6 volt so we need to change that to 12 volt somehow
> > without a complete rewire if
> > at all possible
> > 3. Can you also lower F100's a few inches without having to go the clip
> > method.
> > 4. How much work is involved in installing a 289 if the truck apparently
> > came with a V8 from the factory.
> > will there be problems with engine mounts etc.or will she bolt right
> > up.
> > Also will be installing an Automatic
> > tranny in it as well so the wife can drive it.
> > 5. Any suggestions for good must have books, we bought the How to
> Restore
> > your F100, but looking for more.
> > Original 54 Shop manual would be great if they are available and any
> > others.
> > 6. Whats the best paint to use on the frame after we get it cleaned up
> for
> > rust protection etc.
> >
> > Thankyou.
> >
> >
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:38:45 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: TRIM YOUR REPLIES

Trim replies when posting. You have been warned.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:42:24 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Greetings!

>Original 54 Shop manual would be great if they are available and any

We've got 49-66 shop manuals on the web site. They are
Ford licensed reproductions. They are very popular
items.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:59:04 EDT
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Side Hood Emblems

In a message dated 7/13/99 4:19:23 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


From: "Brian C Nyman"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Side Hood Emblems

Why is it so hard for specialty shops to have 57-58 side hood emblems (58 in
particular) ? I have looked through "Sacramento Vintage", "AutoKrafters,"
"Dan
Carpenter," and "Bob's F-Fun-Hundreds" catalogs'. None of them carry these
hood
emblems, and I think only ONE had the 57-58 (front) hood shield emblem. I
have
a right and a left (side hood emblems), they're a little flaked and/or
pitted,
and missing the F100 emblem, so I was interested in replacing them. They're
also made of an unusual "alloy" that looks like aluminum, but they're heavier
than you'd expect an aluminum emblem would be. This makes me wary of
stripping
them, either chemically or mechanically, and then replating them.

Can anyone help me out ? I haven't contacted the sales/order departments'
directly, but I've been handed the 'if it's not in the catalog, we don't have
it' response before.

Brian Nyman
bnyman allina.com >>

Brian,

I have run into the same problem with my 57. The side markers on mine are
flaky (neighbors say that fits me!) and pitted. I don't know if you can
polish this off (not likely) to its original shine. Ford did see fit to
change the side markers every year. I have not found anyone who is recasting
these. The front shield is the same on 57 & 58 and the same 59 & 60. The 57 &
58's are again nonexistent. A swap vendor at the Supernationals said these
are extremely hard to find (read: expensive). The 53 - 56 look similar, but
the hood "bump" on the fat fendered version is not on the shoeboxes. My front
shield is gone as well.

Good luck
Glenn in TN
Soapy the 57 F-100
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:05:13 EDT
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - EFI

Truckers,

A quick lifting of the cab on Soapy (it is very close to the back of the
engine) produced the missing MAP sensor (whew!). So the wiring is back on. I
still want to use the Lincoln's harness to save money. But the after-market
guys are looking very good now. Has anybody ever used Windsor Fox or Baumann
Engineering for their wiring needs? Ron Francis has a kit, but the truck
harness and the EFI harness would run up to $800 I think. It just all those
wires on the Lincoln! The thing even had a heated windshield!

Glenn in TN
Soapy the 57 F-100
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:50:39 -0700
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Removing Overspray

I sprayed some primer on my truck last weekend and accidently sprayed a
little on my windshield rubber and one of my running boards. Any ideas for
quick and easy removal? How about slow and painful?

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--The seat screams 'cover me' and your butt screams 'ouch!'
1992 Mustang --Nothing noteworthy to report.
1965 Mustang--Coming Soon???

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:13:27 EDT
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Removing Overspray

A light rubbing with paint thinner on a clean rag should do the trick. I
painted the wife's Suburban last month and got some primer and a little paint
on the bumper and some glass, it worked real good.

Paul
52 F-3
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 22:40:59 -0400
From: "Bill Robinson"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Removing Overspray

I had great success w/ acetone for overspray removal.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Dan Wentz
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, July 15, 1999 10:10 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Removing Overspray


>I sprayed some primer on my truck last weekend and accidently sprayed a....


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