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pre61-list-digest Friday, July 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 193



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Re: Fender size
FTE Pre61 - Fender Size
FTE Pre61 - Paint codes
Re: FTE Pre61 - Seeking info sources
FTE Pre61 - Re: Gear Ratios
FTE Pre61 - headers
FTE Pre61 - Rear gears
Re: FTE Pre61 - Rear gears
FTE Pre61 - Restoration/Renovation Shops
Re: FTE Pre61 - Rear gears

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:23:31 -0500
From: "Robert Jones"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Fender size

As far as fenders for the '48-52s are concerned the F-1s have their own size
front and back. The F-2s through F-6s are the same, the rears on the F-2s &
3s are the same. The F-7s &8s share the same fenders. The grills for the
F-1s through F-6s are the same and the F-7s & 8s grills are wider. The cabs
and hoods are the same for all models. I have a '50 F-7 cab on my '49 F-2.
The plate over the transmission had to be altered because the hole for the
shifter was in the wrong place. I'm not sure but I think all of the inner
fender panels are the same on all models too.

Bob Jones
BobJ49F2

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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 09:15:45 -0500
From: "Brian C Nyman"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Fender Size

Here's my understanding of the difference:
The FENDERS are the same size between the 1-ton and the F100 stepside boxes.
However, the bed size is different. The box sides have mouldings to give room
for the dualies. The fenders are mounted lower on the box sides, and the
"spacer" between the bed-sides and the "step" are a couple inches taller. These
are the primary "subtle" differences between them. There's still the extra
length to front and rear of the fenders, the box width is ~5" wider, and the
rear pan is deeper as well. The bed crossmembers on the 1-ton are mounted
higher off the frame, plus there are three in the 1-ton vs two on the F100. And
from what I saw, the bed wood itself is thicker - ~1" (ton) vs ~3/4"(F100).

Is this too much information? Is it too vague? I hope I can help with some of
this discussion.

Brian Nyman
Allina Health Systems Provider Support
bnyman allina.com
612-775-1537

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:39:28 -0700
From: Ken Toop
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Paint codes

The vin label on my '57 F-100 indicates color as Re Red. What does the Re
stand for?

Kenneth Toop
Yakima School District
Head Librarian, Barge--Lincoln School
219 East "I" Street, Yakima, Washington 98902
573-5207




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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 13:01:17 -0400
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Seeking info sources

"Kitchen, Ken" wrote:
>

> me so I'm looking for any help I can get. I have a 5.8L (351W) fuel
> injected engine from a 90 F250. Can anyone
> recommend some good reference material for the engine.

Take a look at Charles B. Probst's book "Ford Fuel Injection..ect.". I
got my copy thru Amazon.com, very good very complete. Wiring diagrams,
color codes and mostly how it works. Also the technical article on the
Ford truck home page is useful, but I think a few things are off in that
article, so compare what it says to Mr. Probst. If you search Amazon for
"Ford Fuel Injection" you also get a book by Ben Watson, I didn't think
it was guite as good, but its got much the same information.

47Fred
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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:44:02 +0100
From: "Paul Y."
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Gear Ratios

Sorry to be a week late here, but in reply to Abram's questions about ratios
there was a great article in Classic Trucks, April '99 giving different ways
to calculate effective ratios, tyre sizes, ideal rpm & mph. If I was a
better operator I would scan the article but my new scanner doesn't make a
good job of text yet.
Hope you find it!
PY
original article;
From: Abram H. Stauffer
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:11 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - rear axle ratios


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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 17:03:08 -0700
From: Kurt Stokke
Subject: FTE Pre61 - headers

I'm wondering if somebody has had the experience to know what brand name
headers will fit to replace the stock manifolds in my '55 F100, or
whether I have to have some custom made. I have a 76-77 318 Chrysler
block with 360 heads. It has a Le Baron torsion bar suspension and
power steering. Starter is on the same side. The trans is a Chrysler
940. Heddon says they don't have headers to fit my application, while
I'm unsure about Hooker without seeing how they're shaped. I realize
I'm a little out of synch with the 350/350 crowd, but I like it so
thanks in advance,

Kurt in
Port Angeles, Wa.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:16:51 -0400
From: "sam fugate"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Rear gears

I am planning to install a C-4 auto tranny behind my MERC. flatty that has
been bored .030 over with dual 94's, My problem is what would be the best
rear gear ratio for this setup? I don't plan on doing a lot of hiway
driving, but ya never know! Any thoughts?
Sam in Mt. Sterrling, KY.
1951 F1

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:46:28 EDT
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Rear gears

In a message dated 7/8/1999 9:18:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
fugate51 ford-trucks.com writes:

> I am planning to install a C-4 auto tranny behind my MERC. flatty that has
> been bored .030 over with dual 94's, My problem is what would be the best
> rear gear ratio for this setup? I don't plan on doing a lot of hiway
> driving, but ya never know! Any thoughts?
>
Sam -
You're readin' my mind. 'Course my Merc isn't 30 over, yet, and
it'll have a four-barrel. You already know, don't go too numerically low. I
had a Chrysler 2.73 in a '52 with the crashbox 4-speed. Highway cruising was
great, low rpm, great mileage, but around town you couldn't use 4th much, so
you had to listen to those straight cut gears all the time. Wasn't worth it.
So I'm thinking of ~3.50, but I'd also like to find a C-5, which, as I
understand it, is a C-4 with a lockup converter. Know anything about them?
Without a lockup, I think I'd drop down a little lower numerically. I'd like
to be able to get up on The Beltway (DC), cause you really can't go anywhere
around here without getting on the highway. Right now I'd get run over, so
the stock '51 is just a local truck.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:57:05 EDT
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Restoration/Renovation Shops

Does anyone know of a competent shop in the
Baltimore/Washington/Richmond area where one could take a '51 F1 and say
'Here. Restorate this. Call me when its done." and get a good job back
sometime? Not an original restoration, not a full-on hotrod, but a frame-off
(shouldn't that really be off-frame?), fiberglass fendered, 12v, fuel
injected computerized 5.OL drivetrain with cats, AC, 9" rear, workable truck.
No, I didn't recently win the lottery, but I know it would take
almost that much.
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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 22:02:34 -0400
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Rear gears

At 09:16 PM 7/8/1999 -0400, sam fugate wrote:
>I am planning to install a C-4 auto tranny behind my MERC. flatty that has
>been bored .030 over with dual 94's, My problem is what would be the best
>rear gear ratio for this setup? I don't plan on doing a lot of hiway
>driving, but ya never know! Any thoughts?
>Sam in Mt. Sterrling, KY.
>1951 F1

I've got a '35 pickup, stock 16" wheels, 21-stuc flathead bored about .060
over (I figure 230 cid), dual 97's, Fenton headers, dual exhaust, 3 speed
manual transmission and 3.55 gears. I still have to stay in the right lane
on the interstates, but mostly because of the bias ply tires. A little more
engine oomph would be nice, but if you've got a 4" mercury crank, I would
think 3.55 or 3.78 would be good. Maybe smaller if you were running smaller
tires.

Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html

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