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pre61-list-digest Friday, July 2 1999 Volume 03 : Number 186



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - Help! Bad Brakes Mystery
FTE Pre61 - Locking brake
FTE Pre61 - Power Steering
FTE Pre61 - Dash to the Dells
Re: FTE Pre61 - Locking brake
FTE Pre61 - drip edge
Re: FTE Pre61 - drip edge

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 06:53:14 -0700
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Help! Bad Brakes Mystery

Hi folks. Ray C here. I have been trying to figure out why my 48 F-6 brake pedal kicks back at me. The truck has a vacuum power booster that seems to work fine on the initial pedal push, but after a second or two the power assist stops functioning and the pedal pushes back up at me a little bit and I am left with only manual braking. I have totally dissasebmbled the booster and replaced the worn parts. There is no air in the brake lines that I can figure. The vacuum seems to be consistant. The wheel cylinders are like new and the shoes are adjusted to a slight drag on all 4 drums. I am baffled after messing with these for several sessions. Any Suggestions. I know if I'm gonna get any help, this is The Place To Go....

Thanks,
Ray C


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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 07:03:37 -0700
From: Ken Toop
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Locking brake

Here's the stumper for today: I installed a new master cylinder and new
wheel cylinders all around on the stock brake system of my '57 F-100. Now
the right front wheel locks up when I apply the brakes. I've bled and
adjusted the brakes a couple of times, and pulled the hub off several times
as well, to try to figure out what's going on, but without success. I
suspected a bad wheel cylinder, but a replacement made no improvement,
still the same wheel locks. I don't think there is any blockage in the
hydraulic lines as the fluid passed easily when I bled the system. I have
cleaned the drums and brake shoes of any grease contamination. I thought
that I had maybe reversed primary and secondary shoes, and, yet, when I
turned them around the problem was worse. Backing up the brake does not
lock, only going forward. Anyone have an idea how to trouble shoot this
one? I sure hate to have to out-shop this one, but I guess I'll have to if
no one has an idea. Thanks to the replies to my question on removing the
horn button.

Also, when are the classic truck magazines going to wake up to '57-'60
F-100's? I'm about ready to cancel some subscriptions. Judging from the
number of posts from owners on this list there must be a lot of us out
there. Maybe if we all made the same threat?

Kenneth Toop
Yakima School District
Head Librarian, Barge--Lincoln School
219 East "I" Street, Yakima, Washington 98902
573-5207




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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 10:49:41 -0400
From: Fred g 454
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Power Steering

Hi guys,

Help!

I'm starting to re-assemble my '56 that's been all
over the garage floor (and basement) for over a year
now. One of the conversions I made was the Toyota
4x4 power steering box. Now that I'm putting it
together, I can't find a 1985 and earlier Toyota 4x4
power steering hose. They have a solid front axle.

I need the pressure line, the fitting for the return
line and the nut for the pitman arm. I got the kit
from mid-fifties. I bought the adapter, box, pitman
arm, and a borgman joint from them at great expense.
I'm going to call them but was hoping one of you
guys would know a yard that I could order the parts
from. I'm in Michigan and I've checked all the yards
around me. Even had the Toyota dealer look, with no
success.

A new hose sells for $295. Not a typo. The Toyota
dealer says there is no reason other than brain
damage on Toyotas part.

If your out looking, if you'd ask for me I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks
Fred
Hotrod'56


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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:23:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Connor
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Dash to the Dells

The Dash to the Dells in Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin is Sept. 17, & 18 this year.
The hotel is the Copa Cabana. The motel phone is 1-800-364-2672. with a
cutoff date of Aug. 21. Tell them you are with the Badgerland F-100's when
making your resevation at the motel. To register for the show call or write;
Jean Hilgers
2411 Church St.
Cross Plains, WI 53528
608-798-4331
jhilgers aol.com

This is our tenth anniversary show and we are giving away a rolling chassis
with a 302 and FMX installed over a mustang front susp and 9" rear end. New
brakes installed with vintage wheels and new tires. Put on sheetmetal and
finish it.
You must be 18 years old ,registered for the show, and present to win
Saturday Late afternoon. Saturday Lunch is included and Sunday morning
donuts. Last year we had 85 trucks. Your chances of a big door prize are
quite good. For the ladies we have a large craft show in town and a Maxwell
Street sale also. There is a parade to watch on Sunday afternoon. There are
kids games, valve cover racing(kids and adults) with your own valve cover
racer. On Friday we go on a group cruise that last year was about 4 hours
and we saw some beautiful areas of Wisconsin. We make numerous planned
stops along the way for various reasons.
I hope this wasn't too long. Really enjoyed meeting and racing you Ken and
Peggy.
Mike Connor Past President 9 years and Founder of Badgerland F-100's Truck Club
Madison, Wi. 608-274-6257

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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 16:47:01 -0700
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Locking brake

Hi Ken,
I'll take a stab at your problem even though I can't figure my own out. I had the same problem on my 53 F-100. The rubber hose had an internal tear that was acting as a check-valve easily allowing pressure to go to the cylinder and then holding it there. Is there a "release" of brke fluid if you crack the bleeder? Hope it's a help. Any ideas on my 48 stumper?

Ray C
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On Thu, 1 Jul 1999 07:03:37 Ken Toop wrote:
>Here's the stumper for today: I installed a new master cylinder and new
>wheel cylinders all around on the stock brake system of my '57 F-100. Now
>the right front wheel locks up when I apply the brakes. I've bled and
>adjusted the brakes a couple of times, and pulled the hub off several times
>as well, to try to figure out what's going on, but without success. I
>suspected a bad wheel cylinder, but a replacement made no improvement,
>still the same wheel locks. I don't think there is any blockage in the
>hydraulic lines as the fluid passed easily when I bled the system. I have
>cleaned the drums and brake shoes of any grease contamination. I thought
>that I had maybe reversed primary and secondary shoes, and, yet, when I
>turned them around the problem was worse. Backing up the brake does not
>lock, only going forward. Anyone have an idea how to trouble shoot this
>one? I sure hate to have to out-shop this one, but I guess I'll have to if
>no one has an idea. Thanks to the replies to my question on removing the
>horn button.
>
>Also, when are the classic truck magazines going to wake up to '57-'60
>F-100's? I'm about ready to cancel some subscriptions. Judging from the
>number of posts from owners on this list there must be a lot of us out
>there. Maybe if we all made the same threat?
>
> Kenneth Toop
> Yakima School District
> Head Librarian, Barge--Lincoln School
> 219 East "I" Street, Yakima, Washington 98902
> 573-5207
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 17:13:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Stokes
Subject: FTE Pre61 - drip edge

I have a 56 and am getting ready to start the restoration. I noticed that
the drip edge above the widshield is filled with something. Is this the
way it is supposed to be or was this somebody's weak attempt at body work.
If it is supposed to be there what is it, ie product/brand name?

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:05:31 EDT
From: Meats56 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - drip edge

That is a seam sealer. And I promise you when you remove it to do your body
work you will find pin holes of rust. Voice of experience here. Mine was so
bad with pin holes I had to replace the roof. it is best (in my opinion) to
also replace that seam sealer with new. With today's primers and finishes I
doubt there will be anymore trouble in the seam if it was repaired and
prepped right.


Meat
56 small window
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