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pre61-list-digest Friday, June 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 179



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Fender Welt
FTE Pre61 - Tires
Re: FTE Pre61 - Fender Welt
Re: FTE Pre61 - Fender Welt
FTE Pre61 - drilled rotors
RE: FTE Pre61 - drilled rotors
Re: FTE Pre61 - Fender Welt
RE: FTE Pre61 - 56 Window removal
Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 Window removal
Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 Window removal
FTE Pre61 - THATS IT
Re: FTE Pre61 - Formula for Speedo Gear
FTE Pre61 - Fan clearance
FTE Pre61 - Re:56 Window removal

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 07:02:38 -0400
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Fender Welt

Do any of you have any ideas about how to hold the fender welt in place
while replacing the fenders? I MIGHT be able to FINALLY do that this
weekend!
- --
Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
inaccessible part of the vehicle."

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 06:59:35 -0400
From: "James P. Shedlauskas"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tires

I met Ed and his F-3 at the Macungie, PA antique truck show last =
weekend, and he was looking for a source for tires. I picked up a flyer =
at a military vehicle collector show last year for Wallace W. Wade =
Specialty Tires in Dallas TX . (800-666-TYRE, 214-688-0091) Their =
brochure lists tires for everything from bumper cars to trucks to 'bomb =
trailer, cannon and rickshaw tires'. I talked to them about the =
7.00x18's I need for my F-4 and they had those in stock for about $125 =
each, half of what Coker Tire in TN wanted. They list a website as =
'www.wallacewade.com', but I haven't had any luck getting on it.

Jim

P.S. Ed - thanks for letting me crawl in, over, around and under your =
F-3!

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:06:01 -0400
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Fender Welt

The Neighbors wrote:
>
> Do any of you have any ideas about how to hold the fender welt in place
> while replacing the fenders? I MIGHT be able to FINALLY do that this
> weekend!
> --
Don, this was posted some time ago, and looked interesting so I kept
it. I checked today and the article is still there.

Fred g 454 wrote:
>
> You may want to take a look at a pictorial "how-to" called "adding welting to
> your classic truck". It looks like an easy way to do a professional job. They
> have a lot of interesting info in this section. A lot of the trucks are Chevy's
> but a lot of the info covers Ford's.Unlike some in this group... they don't
> discriminate.
>
> Fred
> Hotrod '56
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.classic truckshop. com/techdir.htm
>
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:36:08 EDT
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Fender Welt

Hi Don,
Try using some stuff called 3M weatherstrip and trim adhesive. It comes in
yellow and black. Use the black because it is not as messy. You could put
just a few little blobs of it on the fender welting to hold it in place while
you install the fender. I used some just last week after giving my wife's
Suburban a paint job with new trim, and it works great. It didn't even mess
up any paint it came in contact with.

Paul
'52 F-3
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:52:02 -0500
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - drilled rotors

been following the thread on vented drums and it brought this to mind...

My '53 is going to have 4 wheel disks... those drilled 'vented' rotors
sure look good

Anyone with knowledge on how this is done... is it a special procedure ???
or just
layout the pattern,. punch, drill and countersink ??? how many is enough
?? how many is too many ???

I've got the layout dye, centerpunch and drill press

any ideas guys ???

john


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:57:28 -0500
From: "mark"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - drilled rotors

I used to drill motorcycle rotors. just make sure your holes overlap enough
to cover the entire surface of the pads. you don't need much of a
countersink, just break the sharp edges.

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of jniolon uss.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 8:52 AM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com; perf-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - drilled rotors
>
>
>
>
> been following the thread on vented drums and it brought this to mind...
>
> My '53 is going to have 4 wheel disks... those drilled 'vented' rotors
> sure look good
>
> Anyone with knowledge on how this is done... is it a special
> procedure ???
> or just
> layout the pattern,. punch, drill and countersink ??? how many is enough
> ?? how many is too many ???
>
> I've got the layout dye, centerpunch and drill press
>
> any ideas guys ???
>
> john
>
>
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:06:21 -0400
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Fender Welt

Don, you might try the link below. They have an article on line that shows
how they do it. Using a light coat of spray adhesive.
Good Luck
Fred
Hotrod'56



http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.classic truckshop. com/

The Neighbors wrote:

> Do any of you have any ideas about how to hold the fender welt in place
> while replacing the fenders? I MIGHT be able to FINALLY do that this
> weekend!
> --
> Don Neighbors
> '54 F250 Named Grover
>
> "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
> inaccessible part of the vehicle."
>
> grover ford-trucks.com
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 07:00:20 -0700
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - 56 Window removal

David,

I've had both front and back out of my 55 and each time I sacrificed the
rubber by trimming it so I could slide the window out. If you do want to do
it this way just make sure your not cutting into a visible paint area.

Dennis
55F100

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> From: David Stokes[SMTP:dstokes linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us]
> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 10:14 PM
> To: fordtrucks
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - 56 Window removal
>
> I have to remove my windshield to do some body work. Any ideas on
> what not to do and how I can avoid breaking this very expensive piece of
> glass. ANy tips or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Also, what is the guage of cab, fenders, doors?
>
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:08:05 GMT
From: Joe Swinko
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 Window removal

> I have to remove my windshield to do some body work. Any ideas on
>what not to do and how I can avoid breaking this very expensive piece of
>glass. ANy tips or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

well, do NOT try to push it out like they say in the manuals.
you have to locate the metal retaining tabs and carefully pry them away from
the glass. then you should cut or tear the rubber away from the inside of
the window. make shure you have freed the window before you try to push it
gently into a helper's hands (you inside helper outside of cab) WEAR GLOVES
just in case the window should break.




>Also, what is the guage of cab, fenders, doors?
>


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:09:17 GMT
From: Joe Swinko
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 Window removal

> I have to remove my windshield to do some body work. Any ideas on
>what not to do and how I can avoid breaking this very expensive piece of
>glass. ANy tips or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

well, do NOT try to push it out like they say in the manuals.
you have to locate the metal retaining tabs and carefully pry them away from
the glass. then you should cut or tear the rubber away from the inside of
the window. make shure you have freed the window before you try to push it
gently into a helper's hands (you inside helper outside of cab) WEAR GLOVES
just in case the window should break.


>Also, what is the guage of cab, fenders, doors?
I dont know but I would like to know the guage of a 51 cab and bed

Joe Swinko


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:21:48 EDT
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - THATS IT

In a message dated 6/24/99 8:22:20 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


From: "jacobsen"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - vented drums

There is an article in the Dec 98 issue of Classic Trucks by Jim Richards=
on that references vented drum brakes. The article is titled "Late Braki=
ng News." The article does not give information on "how-to", but does =
show a picture with staggered holes about 1/8" in diameter every couple =
of inches. The auther suggests taking the drums to a local drum venting =
service or contacting at the following to have it done:

C. H. Topping
520 W. Esther St.
Dept CT
Long Beach, CA 90813
(562) 432-0901
E-mail: chtopping earthlink.net >>

Truckers,

This is the article I was talking about. I haven't found mine yet.

Glenn in TN
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:32:50 -0700
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Formula for Speedo Gear

>
> In a wonderful burst of helpfulness, Ford Motorsports says " To
> determine the number of drive gear teeth, simply remove the extension
> housing and count them."


Gee, why didn't I think of that! Call me lazy, but I think I'll try to find a
way that doesn't involve hours of labor taking off the extension housing.
Hmm...I wonder if I'd be able to count teeth through the speedo gear hole in
the housing. I'll try to do that first.

>
> Apparently, nobody there has ever used a
> wrench. If you do try to count them, the spiral nature of the teeth are
> guaranteed to confound you. Ford says MOST have 7 or 8.


AOD's have 8 so I'd assume that a C4 has 7. Funny how assumptions work. If I
find out for sure I'll post to the list.

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--On the road again and feeling good!
1992 Mustang --Nothing noteworthy to report.
1965 Mustang--Coming Soon???

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:39:40 -0500
From: "Doug "
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Fan clearance

I just instslled a 302 engine in my 49 f1, and the fan is very close too the
radiator. Could someone tell me what would be minimun distance aloud between
the fan radiator.


Doug

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:07:26 -0700
From: Dennis Wooldridge
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re:56 Window removal

> David: It is totally worth the small fee your local glass installer charges to
> come out and remove that precious windshield.

>
>
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:14:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Stokes
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - 56 Window removal....

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