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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Speaking of radios
FTE Pre61 - another radio question
RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
RE: FTE Pre61 - Voltage inverter/ converter
RE: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP
FTE Pre61 - Radio Problems
FTE Pre61 - Frame Painting
FTE Pre61 - Mustang II caliper brackets
Re: FTE Pre61 - Frame Painting
Re: Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP
Re: FTE Pre61 - Radio Problems
RE: FTE Pre61 - Frame Painting

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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:23:29 -0500
From: "Frank Mester Jr."
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Speaking of radios

My '51 F1 has the original pushbutton radio. Can anyone tell me how to
change the pushbutton settings? My memory tells me that the button
should puul out and then be pudhed in at the new station. Mines set for
Iowa.

Thanks, Frank
Michigan

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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:01:34 EST
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - another radio question

When I acquired my '52 F-3, It had an old Firestone Air Chief radio. I believe
it to be an aftermarket unit that attached to the firewall. The unit has two
cables coming out of one end that go to the dash, and they are supposed to be
connected to a remote control head unit that mounts in the dash. I do not have
the remote head unit and I have never seen one. Has anybody ever had one of
these on their car/truck? Would it be feasible to try and find a head unit and
restore this radio?
Thanks,
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:14:30 -0500
From: Ethan Vos
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

Thanks.

Ethan


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Sent:December 29, 1998 9:01 PM
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Subject:RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

Ethan,

If I remember right all they need is sand blasted and painted. I'll try
to run by there in the next week and check. They're located (me too) in
North Carolina out side Wilmington.

Andy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
70 F-100,360 2v (soon to be 4v),C/6
56 F-600,272 2v (soon to be factory 4v),4speed
56 F-100 Bigwindow,223 1v,3speed

>How good are the front fenders? I need a pair.
>
>My F500 has a 2 speed rear but that could be because it has a flathead.
>Apparently the flathead was used in Canada 'til 54.
>
>Ethan



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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:30:37 -0500
From: "Howard Tarnoff"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Voltage inverter/ converter

Mike...

I have the commercial version and am not going to use it. Had thought about
replacing the stock am radio in my wifes 54 Sunliner with AM/FM...in fact I
have the radio as well. Let me know if you are interested in either or
both.

BTW, we are "displaced Cheeseheads", now living in Franklin MA but from
Green Bay. We have a vested interest in Holmgren staying put in that we
have 4 tickets at Lambeau!

Howard

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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 11:57 PM
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Voltage inverter/ converter


Does anybody have plans to build a voltage inverter(+6v input to -12v
output) to run 12v accessories in my toy? I know they are available
commercially but I would enjoy the challenge of building one myself,
besides its too cold to work on the truck right now. I also don't want
to change the 6v system to 12v because it works great! It started
right up at -25 in Northern WI. last winter. Too bad my dads '97 Dodge
needed a boost. ( He a'int gonna live that down).
Thanks,
Wisconsin Mike

52 F-2 (mine)
54 Nash Rambler (kids driveway ornament)
95 LeBaron (wifes)



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> In this issue:
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> FTE Pre61 - Cadillac ??????
> RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting the '55 restore
> FTE Pre61 - engine
> FTE Pre61 - FLATHEAD52 AOL.COM's response to relocated springs
> FTE Pre61 - Re: Spare tire rack
> FTE Pre61 - Restarting "55 restore:
> Re: FTE Pre61 - 60 Battery Tray
> Re: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
> RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
> RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
> FTE Pre61 - Mustang IFS
> FTE Pre61 - WANT '48-'50 F-1
> Re: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
> FTE Pre61 - '56 fan shrouds
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:55:40 EST
> From: RJC988 aol.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Cadillac ??????
>
> In a message dated 12/27/98 10:34:47 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
owner-pre61-list-
> digest ford-trucks.com writes:
>
>
> From: Lookn4iron aol.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Identifying the Cadillac 500 ci Engines
>
> Can anyone supply casting numbers or other distinguishing
characteristics
> of the the 472 or 500 ci Cadillac engines. I am going to shop one
> tomorrow and am unfamiliar with them other than the comments posted
on
> this list and an article appearing in Street Rodder touting the
"cubes
> per $$" advantages of the engine. How about the transmission that
was
> used with this engine?
>
> Bill >>
>
> A GM in a Ford!!!!
> Let the flaming begin!
>
> Glenn in TN
> Soapy the all Ford (and not running) 57 F-100
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:01:06 -0400
> From: "Miguel..."
> Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting the '55 restore
>
> F-1 is from 1948 to 1952, then it was changed to f-100, yours is a 55
> f-100.
>
> - -----Mensaje original-----
> De: MR Hay
> Para: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Fecha: Sunday 27 de December de 1998 9:51 PM
> Asunto: FTE Pre61 - Restarting the '55 restore
>
>
> > I want to replace the rear end in my '55 F (is it an F-1 or F-100)
> >with a heavier one. Everyone suggests the 9" Ford. It will be a
daily
> >driver, with occasional towing of a 3500# boat. Also recommended
are the
> >351 Windsor & mechanical OD automatic. If this is the right
track, is
> >SoCal P/Ups the best source? They seem a bit expensive, but it is
> >mostly a bolt-in. Thanks for your input. Mike
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:30:05 -0700
> From: "Kit Hughes"
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - engine
>
> New to this list, getting a great deal of information already. Just
starting
> our first project truck, 54 F100. Pulled out the engine today, we
have a 302
> that's going into it. Live in Montana, wonder if anyone interested
in the
> motor we've pulled out. Original with exception of head-223ci-straight
> 6/4spd tran. Runs, drove it here. Respond to email.
> Brian
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:34:38 EST
> From: AV8FORD aol.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - FLATHEAD52 AOL.COM's response to relocated
springs
>
> Good answer! Just want to add that you must "dial-in" pinion angle
similar to
> original, and take care not to warp the axle housings when welding
on new
> spring pads by working from side to side in short passes to minimize
heat
> buildup in one location.
>
> I have a suggestion for that third-member elbow room in the bed: For
about $30
> you can buy a new Model A sedan rear-spring hump from any of the
suppliers
> handling early Ford parts (OFO, Sacto Vintage, All-Ford, etc.). It's
7 inches
> long, 20 inches wide, 3-1/2 inches high and looks great. It has a
1-inch
> flange all around the edge that you can drill holes in for holdd-wn
screws.
>
> Mike Bishop
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:51:24 -0800
> From: "Vierra, William BGI SF"
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Spare tire rack
>
> A 56 F-100 side mount for the spare is not unfortunately the same as
the
> mount for an F-1. With the bed change in 53 the racks for the spare
whether
> under the truck or on the side of the bed changed. You might be
able to get
> it to work but I don't believe there is sufficient space between the
cab and
> the rear fender to mount it. You would also need to put a recess in
the
> fender to mount the tire.
>
> The only side mount I have seen for an F-1 was a picture of a 1952
F-1. The
> spare was in the bed mounted along the passenger side bed rail. It
was
> attached by a single bolt a wing nut. Since it was a Ford brochure
I am
> guessing that it the factory option (or lack there of). If anyone
actually
> has different side mount for an F-1 I would also appreciate any
information
> about how it is made and where it mounts. The mounting of a spare
on my F-1
> is a big problem for me and I am sure others due to my trucks prior
owners
> routing of the dual exhaust. The exhaust system on my truck is in
great
> shape and was well done except that it goes right through where the
spare
> should be. On a 55 late model Chevy Pickup I had (I know what was I
> thinking) I did weld in an under the bed tire hanger from an 80 Chevy
> Pickup. It worked but reaffirmed my personal dislike of mounting a
spare
> under the bed.
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:10:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: Oldtrukman webtv.net (R. Pietsch)
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Restarting "55 restore:
>
> Howdy Mike.
> First off, your "55 is an F100.
>
> Second, the Ford 9" is deffinately the way to go because of its
> strength and versitility. You can pick one up at your local wrecking
> yard. If you don't like the gearing, it is a simple job to swap out
the
> center section for one with a different gear ratio. No complicated
> shimming and set up. Just bolt it in.
>
> I got mine out of a '66 F100 and it was a simple bolt in job.
Just
> took me one saturday afternoon, a couple of jack stands, a floor jack,
> and hand tools.
>
> I run a 351C w/C6 trans in mine and 3.89/1 gears in the rear. It
> does a fine job of pulling my 22 ft. fifth wheel trailer (6,000 lbs.
> loaded) down the road.
>
> Good luck on your prodject.
>
>
>
> Rix56 'The Rat'
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:27:17 -0500
> From: Thomas Teixeira
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 60 Battery Tray
>
> At 7:13 PM -0500 12/27/98, RJC988 aol.com wrote:
>
> >Also I have seen many under-the-bed trays. Has anyone had any
experience with
> >these?
>
> >Glenn in TN
> >Soapy the 57 F-100
>
> I'd be interested in this. I moved the battery in my '35 from under
the
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:31:40 -0500
From: "Howard Tarnoff"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP

Yes...

Do you have a braided ground strap from the block to the frame? If not, you
will hear trash forever.

Howard

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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 11:28 PM
To: owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com; pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP


Hello Folks.....need your thoughts: just installed an original radio
w/proper
wiring, works fine when engine if OFF and key is on ACC. However, when
engine
is running I am getting horrible engine noise thru speakers. Have
suppressors
on coil, ignition and regulator with very little difference. ANY IDEAS?
thanks, bill
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:39:52 EST
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Radio Problems

In a message dated 12/30/98 6:27:12 AM !!!First Boot!!!, owner-pre61-list-
digest ford-trucks.com writes:


From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP


- --

On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:27:47 WBATTE wrote:
>Hello Folks.....need your thoughts: just installed an original radio
w/proper
>wiring, works fine when engine if OFF and key is on ACC. However, when
engine
>is running I am getting horrible engine noise thru speakers. Have
suppressors
>on coil, ignition and regulator with very little difference. ANY IDEAS?
>thanks, bill
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Are you using resistor plugs? If not, that would do it.
ray
>>

Bill,

It might be the plug wires too. Check to see that they are resistor type.

Glenn in TN
Soapy the 57 F-100
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 14:35:41 EST
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Frame Painting

Fordians,

I believe I posted this a few months ago (which should tell you how much I
have done to Soapy), but I don't remember getting much response. While I have
the body off of my frame, should I bother to prime and paint it? It seems to
have done well over the 40 years without any coating. I can't help thinking
that painting will open a can of worms.

Also, does anybody out there have monoleafs on rear of their trucks? How much
drop would I get with reverse eye monos? I'm not sold on flipping my rear
(along with nobody having anything to fit my 2 1/4" springs anyway).

Thanks in advance,
Glenn in TN
Soapy the 57 F-100
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:11:03 -0700
From: Randall Colgan
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Mustang II caliper brackets

I'm mounting Granada/Monarch front rotors on my Mustang II spindles on my
52 F-1 and am wondering if anyone has made caliper brackets that bolt onto
the Mustang II spindles? These brackets hold on Cam*ro calipers. I know
you can buy them, but they're too expensive for my blood. I've seen the
pictures from the Sacramento Catalog and they look relatively straight
forward to make from iron plate. Are there any tricks I should be aware
of? Any help would be most appreciated.

Regards,

Randall Colgan
52 Ford F-1 pickup
http://www.ford-trucks.com/trueblue
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:03:39 -0500
From: "David M. Ackerschott"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Frame Painting

RJC988 aol.com wrote:
>
> Fordians,
>
> I believe I posted this a few months ago (which should tell you how much I
> have done to Soapy), but I don't remember getting much response. While I have
> the body off of my frame, should I bother to prime and paint it? It seems to
> have done well over the 40 years without any coating. I can't help thinking
> that painting will open a can of worms.
>
> Also, does anybody out there have monoleafs on rear of their trucks? How much
> drop would I get with reverse eye monos? I'm not sold on flipping my rear
> (along with nobody having anything to fit my 2 1/4" springs anyway).
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Glenn in TN
> Soapy the 57 F-100
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Hello, I am also in the process of a frame off truck a 1953 Ford F100,
after reading alot of articles i decided to sandblast my frame and i
coated the enteire frame in a product called corosol by eastwood in was
rated number one by skinned knuckle magazine, and that i sprayed the
truck gloss black with their frame and chassis paint the whole thing
looks really nice, i couldn't be happier with the results........Also i
didn't what to do the rear flip either, i am not a big fan of a bubble
in the bed to keep the pumpkin fro hitting the bottom so i went with and
extended y shackle on the rear, and i moved the front hangers from the
middle to the top of the frame...i then took out to leafs and you
wouldn't believe the differents in doing this i also replaces all the
fittings and brass bushing. this allows the rear to be low, and if i
need lower i can always add monoleafs later as well as airbags, sounds
like my new christmas list already for next year......Hope this helps
thanks dddavid
check out my truck project at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.impulse.net/~idah0
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:55:15 EST
From: WBATTE aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP

thank you.....plugs are my next step. bill
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:02:24 EST
From: WBATTE aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Radio Problems

thanks.....my next step is plugs+wires. ciao, bill
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:13:01 -0800
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Frame Painting

Glenn, just my 4 cents;

But, one of the things I regretted when I built my 55 is that I didn't
finish painting the frame with Por15. I had the bed off and painted that
portion, but was to eager to get it running and didn't finish the rest. Por
15 is a brush on rust preventive paint. It's easy to apply, very durable
and makes the underside of the truck really easy to clean. If your already
there, you might as well do it while you can.

Dennis

55 F100

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>
> Fordians,
>
> I believe I posted this a few months ago (which should tell you how much I
> have done to Soapy), but I don't remember getting much response. While I....


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