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RE: FTE Pre61 - WANT '48-'50 F-1
RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
FTE Pre61 - 9" rear
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Thanks Again!
FTE Pre61 - Throttle Linkage Needed
FTE Pre61 - 9 inch rears
RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP
FTE Pre61 - Voltage inverter/ converter
Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP

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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:21:33 -0500
From: "Howard Tarnoff"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - WANT '48-'50 F-1

On a business trip to Atlanta I checked out Fraser Dante and they have a
very nice F1. You can call Tevie Fraser at 770-641-8354 or visit their web
site: www.fraserdante.com

I have not done business with them but found that the vehicles I looked at
were exactly as described in their ads.

Howard

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From: owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com
[mailto:owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of AV8FORD aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 28, 1998 9:54 PM
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - WANT '48-'50 F-1


I'm looking for an original '48-'50 F-1 pickup. V8 or 6 okay, prefer
running/driving truck but it need not be mechanically perfect. Important
that
it have minimum to no rust and only light sheet metal damage, even if
repaired. Also prefer deluxe trim, particularly windshield garnish.

I'm located in Northern California but will consider a good candidate F-1
from
any area, depending on price and condition.

Mike
av8ford aol.com

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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:44:33 -0500
From: Ethan Vos
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

How good are the front fenders? I need a pair.

My F500 has a 2 speed rear but that could be because it has a flathead.
Apparently the flathead was used in Canada 'til 54.

Ethan


- -----Original Message-----
From:Andy D [SMTP:a70f100ford hotmail.com]
Sent:December 28, 1998 9:38 PM
To:pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Subject:RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

No I can't find a socket big enough to get the wheels off. The rear has
to have a deep well because the studs stick out so far. As far as I
know (according to my September 1955 shop manual for 1956 Ford trucks
F-100 to F-900) the only difference between the F-600 and F-500 is the 2
speed rear. The 500 did not come with one. Every thing else is the
same. As for upgrades I can still get all the brake parts (including
the booster) so I have not seen a need to upgrade them (I'm still
running the stock 272 2v, but will update to the 272 4v, also 56, I have
sitting around). The rearend on the 600 was used up until the mid-70's
so you might find brake mods there if you go to the 2-speed. Not sure
on the single speed. I know there there is a 56 F-600 sitting cheap.
The only part usable is the frame, front fenders, and axles though. I
have the title and vin plate to it too. Had to sell it for scrape
(please don't kill me) because I hade too much sitting around (according
to the wife). The guy still has it though.

Andy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
70 F-100
56 F-600
56 F-100

>Hey Andy, did you do any brake mods to the F600? Is it the same as an
F500?
>
>Ethan
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:Andy D [SMTP:a70f100ford hotmail.com]
>Sent:December 28, 1998 7:58 PM
>To:pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject:Re: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
>
>I was told one out of any 57-66 F-100 9 inch will bolt into any 53-56
>F-100 ,but have not done it to my 56 yet.
>
>Andy
>www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
>70 F-100
>56 F-600
>56 F-100
>
>
>> Howdy Mike.
>> First off, your "55 is an F100.
>>
>> Second, the Ford 9" is deffinately the way to go because of its
>>strength and versitility. You can pick one up at your local wrecking
>>yard. If you don't like the gearing, it is a simple job to swap out
the
>>center section for one with a different gear ratio. No complicated
>>shimming and set up. Just bolt it in.
>>
>> I got mine out of a '66 F100 and it was a simple bolt in job.
Just
>>took me one saturday afternoon, a couple of jack stands, a floor jack,
>>and hand tools.
>>
>> I run a 351C w/C6 trans in mine and 3.89/1 gears in the rear. It
>>does a fine job of pulling my 22 ft. fifth wheel trailer (6,000 lbs.
>>loaded) down the road.
>>
>> Good luck on your prodject.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rix56 'The Rat'
>
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:23:45 EST
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 9" rear

In a message dated 12/29/98 10:49:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, owner-pre61-list-
digest ford-trucks.com writes:


From: "Andy D"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

I was told one out of any 57-66 F-100 9 inch will bolt into any 53-56
F-100 ,but have not done it to my 56 yet.

Andy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
70 F-100
56 F-600
56 F-100 >>

To whom it may concern:

Soapy might be willing to part with her 57 9". It is supposed to have a 3:70
gear ratio. It does have the old 5 1/2" bolt diameter. I would keep it (and
may still) but I have the 8.8" out of the Lincoln I would want to mount
(better gearing)! If anyone in the Memphis area would like to talk, let me
know.

Glenn in TN
Soapy the rearless 57 F-100
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:19:19 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Thanks Again!

Once again, Ford Truck Enthusiasts has won a Carlounge award!
This is the third quarterly award we've won from them. We
won the #2 automotive site, behind (yuck) the official
Chevy site. Not bad that little ol' FTE placed right behind
big Chevrolet!

I want to thank everyone who nominated us!

Ken Payne

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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:14:11 -0500
From: "Howard Tarnoff"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Throttle Linkage Needed

Hello Everyone,

A former owner of my 55F100 installed an aftermarket Motorcraft carb with
the throttle control on the left side of the carb. In doing this the
correct throttle linkage was discarded.

I am desperate here in that the World of Wheels show is January 9th! If
anyone is replacing their Y-block and can provide me with the entire carb
linkage set up...all rods, springs, mounting clips and hardware, carb return
spring and bracket, you would go to the top of my Nice Person list.

Need Federal Express or Next Day UPS.

Please email:

Howard Tarnoff
tarnoffh norfolk-county.com

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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:43:34 -0500
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 9 inch rears

I also heard that 57 up to ? bolts into a F100. I bolted in a 72 pickup
rear end in my panel, with spring perches the same, so I guess you can
say 57 through 72 will bolt in.

The wider bodies in 73 up would seem to be a problem. I know my 78 van
rear was about 6 inches too wide (that's why I found the 72).

Paul G.

PS as part of a F100 pickup purchase a few months back I received an
extra 55 grill, punched for boomerangs, and the original boomerangs,
which are in pretty fair condition, incase anyone needs these. Are
these worth much, now that replacement boomerangs are available?
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:00:31 PST
From: "Andy D"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

Ethan,

If I remember right all they need is sand blasted and painted. I'll try
to run by there in the next week and check. They're located (me too) in
North Carolina out side Wilmington.

Andy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
70 F-100,360 2v (soon to be 4v),C/6
56 F-600,272 2v (soon to be factory 4v),4speed
56 F-100 Bigwindow,223 1v,3speed

>How good are the front fenders? I need a pair.
>
>My F500 has a 2 speed rear but that could be because it has a flathead.
>Apparently the flathead was used in Canada 'til 54.
>
>Ethan



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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:27:47 EST
From: WBATTE aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP

Hello Folks.....need your thoughts: just installed an original radio w/proper
wiring, works fine when engine if OFF and key is on ACC. However, when engine
is running I am getting horrible engine noise thru speakers. Have suppressors
on coil, ignition and regulator with very little difference. ANY IDEAS?
thanks, bill
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:57:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Bullis
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Voltage inverter/ converter

Does anybody have plans to build a voltage inverter(+6v input to -12v
output) to run 12v accessories in my toy? I know they are available
commercially but I would enjoy the challenge of building one myself,
besides its too cold to work on the truck right now. I also don't want
to change the 6v system to 12v because it works great! It started
right up at -25 in Northern WI. last winter. Too bad my dads '97 Dodge
needed a boost. ( He a'int gonna live that down).
Thanks,
Wisconsin Mike

52 F-2 (mine)
54 Nash Rambler (kids driveway ornament)
95 LeBaron (wifes)



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> FTE Pre61 - Cadillac ??????
> RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting the '55 restore
> FTE Pre61 - engine
> FTE Pre61 - FLATHEAD52 AOL.COM's response to relocated springs
> FTE Pre61 - Re: Spare tire rack
> FTE Pre61 - Restarting "55 restore:
> Re: FTE Pre61 - 60 Battery Tray
> Re: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
> RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
> RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
> FTE Pre61 - Mustang IFS
> FTE Pre61 - WANT '48-'50 F-1
> Re: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
> FTE Pre61 - '56 fan shrouds
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:55:40 EST
> From: RJC988 aol.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Cadillac ??????
>
> In a message dated 12/27/98 10:34:47 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
owner-pre61-list-
> digest ford-trucks.com writes:
>
>
> From: Lookn4iron aol.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Identifying the Cadillac 500 ci Engines
>
> Can anyone supply casting numbers or other distinguishing
characteristics
> of the the 472 or 500 ci Cadillac engines. I am going to shop one
> tomorrow and am unfamiliar with them other than the comments posted
on
> this list and an article appearing in Street Rodder touting the
"cubes
> per $$" advantages of the engine. How about the transmission that
was
> used with this engine?
>
> Bill >>
>
> A GM in a Ford!!!!
> Let the flaming begin!
>
> Glenn in TN
> Soapy the all Ford (and not running) 57 F-100
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:01:06 -0400
> From: "Miguel..."
> Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting the '55 restore
>
> F-1 is from 1948 to 1952, then it was changed to f-100, yours is a 55
> f-100.
>
> - -----Mensaje original-----
> De: MR Hay
> Para: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Fecha: Sunday 27 de December de 1998 9:51 PM
> Asunto: FTE Pre61 - Restarting the '55 restore
>
>
> > I want to replace the rear end in my '55 F (is it an F-1 or F-100)
> >with a heavier one. Everyone suggests the 9" Ford. It will be a
daily
> >driver, with occasional towing of a 3500# boat. Also recommended
are the
> >351 Windsor & mechanical OD automatic. If this is the right
track, is
> >SoCal P/Ups the best source? They seem a bit expensive, but it is
> >mostly a bolt-in. Thanks for your input. Mike
> >
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:30:05 -0700
> From: "Kit Hughes"
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - engine
>
> New to this list, getting a great deal of information already. Just
starting
> our first project truck, 54 F100. Pulled out the engine today, we
have a 302
> that's going into it. Live in Montana, wonder if anyone interested
in the
> motor we've pulled out. Original with exception of head-223ci-straight
> 6/4spd tran. Runs, drove it here. Respond to email.
> Brian
>
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:34:38 EST
> From: AV8FORD aol.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - FLATHEAD52 AOL.COM's response to relocated
springs
>
> Good answer! Just want to add that you must "dial-in" pinion angle
similar to
> original, and take care not to warp the axle housings when welding
on new
> spring pads by working from side to side in short passes to minimize
heat
> buildup in one location.
>
> I have a suggestion for that third-member elbow room in the bed: For
about $30
> you can buy a new Model A sedan rear-spring hump from any of the
suppliers
> handling early Ford parts (OFO, Sacto Vintage, All-Ford, etc.). It's
7 inches
> long, 20 inches wide, 3-1/2 inches high and looks great. It has a
1-inch
> flange all around the edge that you can drill holes in for holdd-wn
screws.
>
> Mike Bishop
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:51:24 -0800
> From: "Vierra, William BGI SF"
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Spare tire rack
>
> A 56 F-100 side mount for the spare is not unfortunately the same as
the
> mount for an F-1. With the bed change in 53 the racks for the spare
whether
> under the truck or on the side of the bed changed. You might be
able to get
> it to work but I don't believe there is sufficient space between the
cab and
> the rear fender to mount it. You would also need to put a recess in
the
> fender to mount the tire.
>
> The only side mount I have seen for an F-1 was a picture of a 1952
F-1. The
> spare was in the bed mounted along the passenger side bed rail. It
was
> attached by a single bolt a wing nut. Since it was a Ford brochure
I am
> guessing that it the factory option (or lack there of). If anyone
actually
> has different side mount for an F-1 I would also appreciate any
information
> about how it is made and where it mounts. The mounting of a spare
on my F-1
> is a big problem for me and I am sure others due to my trucks prior
owners
> routing of the dual exhaust. The exhaust system on my truck is in
great
> shape and was well done except that it goes right through where the
spare
> should be. On a 55 late model Chevy Pickup I had (I know what was I
> thinking) I did weld in an under the bed tire hanger from an 80 Chevy
> Pickup. It worked but reaffirmed my personal dislike of mounting a
spare
> under the bed.
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:10:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: Oldtrukman webtv.net (R. Pietsch)
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Restarting "55 restore:
>
> Howdy Mike.
> First off, your "55 is an F100.
>
> Second, the Ford 9" is deffinately the way to go because of its
> strength and versitility. You can pick one up at your local wrecking
> yard. If you don't like the gearing, it is a simple job to swap out
the
> center section for one with a different gear ratio. No complicated
> shimming and set up. Just bolt it in.
>
> I got mine out of a '66 F100 and it was a simple bolt in job.
Just
> took me one saturday afternoon, a couple of jack stands, a floor jack,
> and hand tools.
>
> I run a 351C w/C6 trans in mine and 3.89/1 gears in the rear. It
> does a fine job of pulling my 22 ft. fifth wheel trailer (6,000 lbs.
> loaded) down the road.
>
> Good luck on your prodject.
>
>
>
> Rix56 'The Rat'
>
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:27:17 -0500
> From: Thomas Teixeira
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 60 Battery Tray
>
> At 7:13 PM -0500 12/27/98, RJC988 aol.com wrote:
>
> >Also I have seen many under-the-bed trays. Has anyone had any
experience with
> >these?
>
> >Glenn in TN
> >Soapy the 57 F-100
>
> I'd be interested in this. I moved the battery in my '35 from under
the
>
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:46:34 -0000
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP


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