pre61-list-digest Tuesday, December 29 1998 Volume 02 : Number 358



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Cadillac ??????
RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting the '55 restore
FTE Pre61 - engine
FTE Pre61 - FLATHEAD52 AOL.COM's response to relocated springs
FTE Pre61 - Re: Spare tire rack
FTE Pre61 - Restarting "55 restore:
Re: FTE Pre61 - 60 Battery Tray
Re: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
FTE Pre61 - Mustang IFS
FTE Pre61 - WANT '48-'50 F-1
Re: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
FTE Pre61 - '56 fan shrouds

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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:55:40 EST
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Cadillac ??????

In a message dated 12/27/98 10:34:47 AM !!!First Boot!!!, owner-pre61-list-
digest ford-trucks.com writes:


From: Lookn4iron aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Identifying the Cadillac 500 ci Engines

Can anyone supply casting numbers or other distinguishing characteristics
of the the 472 or 500 ci Cadillac engines. I am going to shop one
tomorrow and am unfamiliar with them other than the comments posted on
this list and an article appearing in Street Rodder touting the "cubes
per $$" advantages of the engine. How about the transmission that was
used with this engine?

Bill >>

A GM in a Ford!!!!
Let the flaming begin!

Glenn in TN
Soapy the all Ford (and not running) 57 F-100
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:01:06 -0400
From: "Miguel..."
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting the '55 restore

F-1 is from 1948 to 1952, then it was changed to f-100, yours is a 55
f-100.

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De: MR Hay
Para: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Fecha: Sunday 27 de December de 1998 9:51 PM
Asunto: FTE Pre61 - Restarting the '55 restore


> I want to replace the rear end in my '55 F (is it an F-1 or F-100)
>with a heavier one. Everyone suggests the 9" Ford. It will be a daily
>driver, with occasional towing of a 3500# boat. Also recommended are the
>351 Windsor & mechanical OD automatic. If this is the right track, is
>SoCal P/Ups the best source? They seem a bit expensive, but it is
>mostly a bolt-in. Thanks for your input. Mike
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:30:05 -0700
From: "Kit Hughes"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - engine

New to this list, getting a great deal of information already. Just starting
our first project truck, 54 F100. Pulled out the engine today, we have a 302
that's going into it. Live in Montana, wonder if anyone interested in the
motor we've pulled out. Original with exception of head-223ci-straight
6/4spd tran. Runs, drove it here. Respond to email.
Brian


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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:34:38 EST
From: AV8FORD aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - FLATHEAD52 AOL.COM's response to relocated springs

Good answer! Just want to add that you must "dial-in" pinion angle similar to
original, and take care not to warp the axle housings when welding on new
spring pads by working from side to side in short passes to minimize heat
buildup in one location.

I have a suggestion for that third-member elbow room in the bed: For about $30
you can buy a new Model A sedan rear-spring hump from any of the suppliers
handling early Ford parts (OFO, Sacto Vintage, All-Ford, etc.). It's 7 inches
long, 20 inches wide, 3-1/2 inches high and looks great. It has a 1-inch
flange all around the edge that you can drill holes in for holdd-wn screws.

Mike Bishop
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:51:24 -0800
From: "Vierra, William BGI SF"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Spare tire rack

A 56 F-100 side mount for the spare is not unfortunately the same as the
mount for an F-1. With the bed change in 53 the racks for the spare whether
under the truck or on the side of the bed changed. You might be able to get
it to work but I don't believe there is sufficient space between the cab and
the rear fender to mount it. You would also need to put a recess in the
fender to mount the tire.

The only side mount I have seen for an F-1 was a picture of a 1952 F-1. The
spare was in the bed mounted along the passenger side bed rail. It was
attached by a single bolt a wing nut. Since it was a Ford brochure I am
guessing that it the factory option (or lack there of). If anyone actually
has different side mount for an F-1 I would also appreciate any information
about how it is made and where it mounts. The mounting of a spare on my F-1
is a big problem for me and I am sure others due to my trucks prior owners
routing of the dual exhaust. The exhaust system on my truck is in great
shape and was well done except that it goes right through where the spare
should be. On a 55 late model Chevy Pickup I had (I know what was I
thinking) I did weld in an under the bed tire hanger from an 80 Chevy
Pickup. It worked but reaffirmed my personal dislike of mounting a spare
under the bed.
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:10:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Oldtrukman webtv.net (R. Pietsch)
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Restarting "55 restore:

Howdy Mike.
First off, your "55 is an F100.

Second, the Ford 9" is deffinately the way to go because of its
strength and versitility. You can pick one up at your local wrecking
yard. If you don't like the gearing, it is a simple job to swap out the
center section for one with a different gear ratio. No complicated
shimming and set up. Just bolt it in.

I got mine out of a '66 F100 and it was a simple bolt in job. Just
took me one saturday afternoon, a couple of jack stands, a floor jack,
and hand tools.

I run a 351C w/C6 trans in mine and 3.89/1 gears in the rear. It
does a fine job of pulling my 22 ft. fifth wheel trailer (6,000 lbs.
loaded) down the road.

Good luck on your prodject.



Rix56 'The Rat'

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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:27:17 -0500
From: Thomas Teixeira
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 60 Battery Tray

At 7:13 PM -0500 12/27/98, RJC988 aol.com wrote:

>Also I have seen many under-the-bed trays. Has anyone had any experience with
>these?

>Glenn in TN
>Soapy the 57 F-100

I'd be interested in this. I moved the battery in my '35 from under the
driver's seat to the engine compartment to make room for dual exhausts, but
would like to find a different place for the battery, preferably using a
pre-made battery tray.

Tom Teixeiramailto:tjt world.std.com
94 Taurus SHO 5-speedNESHOC/SHO Registry
'66 Mustang convertible (200 cid auto)http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt
'35 Ford Pickup (flathead V8)


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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:57:44 PST
From: "Andy D"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

I was told one out of any 57-66 F-100 9 inch will bolt into any 53-56
F-100 ,but have not done it to my 56 yet.

Andy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
70 F-100
56 F-600
56 F-100


> Howdy Mike.
> First off, your "55 is an F100.
>
> Second, the Ford 9" is deffinately the way to go because of its
>strength and versitility. You can pick one up at your local wrecking
>yard. If you don't like the gearing, it is a simple job to swap out the
>center section for one with a different gear ratio. No complicated
>shimming and set up. Just bolt it in.
>
> I got mine out of a '66 F100 and it was a simple bolt in job. Just
>took me one saturday afternoon, a couple of jack stands, a floor jack,
>and hand tools.
>
> I run a 351C w/C6 trans in mine and 3.89/1 gears in the rear. It
>does a fine job of pulling my 22 ft. fifth wheel trailer (6,000 lbs.
>loaded) down the road.
>
> Good luck on your prodject.
>
>
>
> Rix56 'The Rat'


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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 20:24:40 -0500
From: Ethan Vos
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

Hey Andy, did you do any brake mods to the F600? Is it the same as an F500?

Ethan


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From:Andy D [SMTP:a70f100ford hotmail.com]
Sent:December 28, 1998 7:58 PM
To:pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Subject:Re: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

I was told one out of any 57-66 F-100 9 inch will bolt into any 53-56
F-100 ,but have not done it to my 56 yet.

Andy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
70 F-100
56 F-600
56 F-100


> Howdy Mike.
> First off, your "55 is an F100.
>
> Second, the Ford 9" is deffinately the way to go because of its
>strength and versitility. You can pick one up at your local wrecking
>yard. If you don't like the gearing, it is a simple job to swap out the
>center section for one with a different gear ratio. No complicated
>shimming and set up. Just bolt it in.
>
> I got mine out of a '66 F100 and it was a simple bolt in job. Just
>took me one saturday afternoon, a couple of jack stands, a floor jack,
>and hand tools.
>
> I run a 351C w/C6 trans in mine and 3.89/1 gears in the rear. It
>does a fine job of pulling my 22 ft. fifth wheel trailer (6,000 lbs.
>loaded) down the road.
>
> Good luck on your prodject.
>
>
>
> Rix56 'The Rat'


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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:37:35 PST
From: "Andy D"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

No I can't find a socket big enough to get the wheels off. The rear has
to have a deep well because the studs stick out so far. As far as I
know (according to my September 1955 shop manual for 1956 Ford trucks
F-100 to F-900) the only difference between the F-600 and F-500 is the 2
speed rear. The 500 did not come with one. Every thing else is the
same. As for upgrades I can still get all the brake parts (including
the booster) so I have not seen a need to upgrade them (I'm still
running the stock 272 2v, but will update to the 272 4v, also 56, I have
sitting around). The rearend on the 600 was used up until the mid-70's
so you might find brake mods there if you go to the 2-speed. Not sure
on the single speed. I know there there is a 56 F-600 sitting cheap.
The only part usable is the frame, front fenders, and axles though. I
have the title and vin plate to it too. Had to sell it for scrape
(please don't kill me) because I hade too much sitting around (according
to the wife). The guy still has it though.

Andy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
70 F-100
56 F-600
56 F-100

>Hey Andy, did you do any brake mods to the F600? Is it the same as an
F500?
>
>Ethan
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:Andy D [SMTP:a70f100ford hotmail.com]
>Sent:December 28, 1998 7:58 PM
>To:pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject:Re: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
>
>I was told one out of any 57-66 F-100 9 inch will bolt into any 53-56
>F-100 ,but have not done it to my 56 yet.
>
>Andy
>www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
>70 F-100
>56 F-600
>56 F-100
>
>
>> Howdy Mike.
>> First off, your "55 is an F100.
>>
>> Second, the Ford 9" is deffinately the way to go because of its
>>strength and versitility. You can pick one up at your local wrecking
>>yard. If you don't like the gearing, it is a simple job to swap out
the
>>center section for one with a different gear ratio. No complicated
>>shimming and set up. Just bolt it in.
>>
>> I got mine out of a '66 F100 and it was a simple bolt in job.
Just
>>took me one saturday afternoon, a couple of jack stands, a floor jack,
>>and hand tools.
>>
>> I run a 351C w/C6 trans in mine and 3.89/1 gears in the rear. It
>>does a fine job of pulling my 22 ft. fifth wheel trailer (6,000 lbs.
>>loaded) down the road.
>>
>> Good luck on your prodject.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rix56 'The Rat'
>
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 20:39:56 -0600
From: "Doug "
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Mustang IFS

I have a1948 F1 an would like to install a mustang IFS in it I think.
Some crossmembers like Fatman weld to the bottom of the frame rail, and some
like Zig's weld to the inside of the frame.I would
like your opinion on which one would be the best an safest.


Thanks Doug

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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:53:57 EST
From: AV8FORD aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - WANT '48-'50 F-1

I'm looking for an original '48-'50 F-1 pickup. V8 or 6 okay, prefer
running/driving truck but it need not be mechanically perfect. Important that
it have minimum to no rust and only light sheet metal damage, even if
repaired. Also prefer deluxe trim, particularly windshield garnish.

I'm located in Northern California but will consider a good candidate F-1 from
any area, depending on price and condition.

Mike
av8ford aol.com

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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 20:33:10 PST
From: "mike omlin"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

saw your post a few days back and was curious as to how you got the c6
to hook up to the speedo...I've got a '56 I'm putting a 429 DOVE block
in and it has the C6...did you change the gear or the whole cable?
thanks in advance...who was the supplier?
Mike Omlin
somewhere near Seattle

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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:05:49 PST
From: "mike omlin"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - '56 fan shrouds

I'm setting a 429 big block in a '56 and I'm wondering what peoples
experience with fan shrouds are....I'm in the pacific northwest so it
doesn't get real hot...the way the motor is mounted it's about 3/4 in.
from the fan to the radiator....If I run the shroud I'll have to cut
some of it back to clear the alternator pulley and crank pully(about 1/2....

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