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Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires
Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires
FTE Pre61 - Re:Spare Carrier (Jonas) and Tom
FTE Pre61 - Re: '56 Horn Mount
Re: FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR. Steering Conversio
Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires
Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: '56 Horn Mount
Re: FTE Pre61 - Gauges for 12 volt conversion
Re: FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR. Steering Conversio
Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires
FTE Pre61 - Re: Tires

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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:49:57 -0700
From: "Joe Michels"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires

Jeff-- I too looked at Coker when I got my tires for my 52 F1. Play with
the numbers real close, ie., the $$-- I found that after paying shipping,
handling, etc, I was money ahead to buy locally. It took them about 3 weeks
to get what I wanted, 600X16's, however they have been fine. The local guy
may be more and with tax, however, once you factor in handling, shipping,
etc it came out a wash for me PLUS if there was something wrong, I was able
to go look the local guy in the eye and get help!!!


Joebob
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Hazewinkel
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 3:19 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tires


>I am looking for a good source for tires for my 47. I need 7.50 - 17
>'s. I have contacted my local tire shop and they can find them but I
>would like to compare with someone who specializes in tires for older
>vehicles. Please let me know if you have found a good source.
>
>Jeff
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:03:04 -0500
From: "Frank Mester Jr."
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires

Joe Michels,

I too am looking for new tires for my '51 F1. Are 600.16 the correct size?

Thanks, Frank

Joe Michels wrote:

> Jeff-- I too looked at Coker when I got my tires for my 52 F1. Play with
> the numbers real close, ie., the $$-- I found that after paying shipping,
> handling, etc, I was money ahead to buy locally. It took them about 3 weeks
> to get what I wanted, 600X16's, however they have been fine. The local guy
> may be more and with tax, however, once you factor in handling, shipping,
> etc it came out a wash for me PLUS if there was something wrong, I was able
> to go look the local guy in the eye and get help!!!
>
> Joebob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Hazewinkel
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 3:19 PM
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tires
>
> >I am looking for a good source for tires for my 47. I need 7.50 - 17
> >'s. I have contacted my local tire shop and they can find them but I
> >would like to compare with someone who specializes in tires for older
> >vehicles. Please let me know if you have found a good source.
> >
> >Jeff
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:59:35 -0500
From: Abe Stauffer
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re:Spare Carrier (Jonas) and Tom

Jonas,
Could you send me pictures of the under bed spare tire hanger also. I am
assuming this is for '53-56. Can you scan the picture and post it here
for all to see? If not email me and I'll email my address to you.

Tom, I am not sure what the stock jack looked like but the tire iron
that came with my truck is a flat iron about 15" long with a lug wrench
on one end and a "hubcap remover" on the other end. Is this the stock
one anyone?
Another question: does anyone have the original "reflector flare set"
that was an accessory for '53-56? It came with 3 reflectors, flags and
flagstaffs. I have one that is in a red metal box. Does anyone else have
one like this and is it original?
Abe '54 F-100
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:43:12 -0500
From: Abe Stauffer
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: '56 Horn Mount

The Dual horns were part of the deluxe cab ('53-54) or the custom cab
('55-56) package. Others were: more cushioning in the seat, 2 tone seat
material, passenger side sun visor, cardboard door panel, door arm
rests, some interior chrome trim, more exterior chrome, chrome trim on
the grill, etc.
Here is a question: I know the '55's and '56's had chrome around the
drip rail if it was a custom cab. Did the '53 and '54 deluxe cabs have
this also? My experience tells me the '53's did not, I am not sure about
the '54's.
Abe '54 standard cab F-100
Abe '54 F-100 standard cab
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:23:28 +0000
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR. Steering Conversio

Mike,

The Toyota box is from a mid-eighties Toyota 4x4 truck. They run around
$300. You need a adapter ($90.) that bolts to the frame using the original
holes. then the box mounts to the adapter. You have to widen the main
(large) hole about an eighth of an inch to the front. It allows you to use
the original column in the stock position. Except you need an adapter. I
used a GM tilt column. The Borgenson (sp?) joint adapter had toyota splines
on one end and the GM double D on the other. ($90.) Then you need a new
pitman arm with toyota splines on one end and the ford ball on the other
(You guessed it about $90.)
I'm at the point of plumbing it now so I can't vouch for how well it works.
No one I've asked knows which of the two holes in the top of the box is
inlet or outlet. You can't tell by looking at them. I've had a half dozen
people try. Next stop is a Toyota dealer. But my experience is they don't
keep manuals back to the mid-80's?

So, there you have it. If I had it to do over, I'm not sure I'd take this
route. It's a clean looking installation but expensive. As you can see the
$600.+ bucks would put you a good way into a Mustang ll set up. I purchased
mine from mid-fifties in Arizona. SoCal offers the same set-up.

mike omlin wrote:

> I have a 56 F-100....could you fill me in on the particulars of the
> toyota power steering modification....what yr...truck or car?...do you
> use the cross steering set up or what?....thanks in advance
> Mike Omlin
> somewhere near Seattle
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:47:38 -0700
From: "Joe Michels"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires

Frank-- The 600X16's were the original tires on my truck and it has 58000
miles on it. In fact, the spare is the original spare, never has hit the
ground, however, weather checked etc. The shop manual that I have
identifies the 600X16's as the correct original tire.

Hope that this helps!!

Joebob
- -----Original Message-----
From: Frank Mester Jr.
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires


>Joe Michels,
>
>I too am looking for new tires for my '51 F1. Are 600.16 the correct size?
>
>Thanks, Frank
>
>Joe Michels wrote:
>
>> Jeff-- I too looked at Coker when I got my tires for my 52 F1. Play with
>> the numbers real close, ie., the $$-- I found that after paying shipping,
>> handling, etc, I was money ahead to buy locally. It took them about 3
weeks
>> to get what I wanted, 600X16's, however they have been fine. The local
guy
>> may be more and with tax, however, once you factor in handling, shipping,
>> etc it came out a wash for me PLUS if there was something wrong, I was
able
>> to go look the local guy in the eye and get help!!!
>>
>> Joebob
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeff Hazewinkel
>> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>> Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 3:19 PM
>> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tires
>>
>> >I am looking for a good source for tires for my 47. I need 7.50 - 17
>> >'s. I have contacted my local tire shop and they can find them but I
>> >would like to compare with someone who specializes in tires for older
>> >vehicles. Please let me know if you have found a good source.
>> >
>> >Jeff
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:55:53 -0500
From: Howard Tarnoff
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires

Joe,

What year is your truck? I would be very interested in pictures of the spare
tire mount. My truck, 55 F100, came with 15" Tires. I have had Cooker Bias
Wide Whites on it for a year and am very happy with them.

Joe Michels wrote:

> Frank-- The 600X16's were the original tires on my truck and it has 58000
> miles on it. In fact, the spare is the original spare, never has hit the
> ground, however, weather checked etc. The shop manual that I have
> identifies the 600X16's as the correct original tire.
>
> Hope that this helps!!
>
> Joebob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Mester Jr.
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 6:07 AM
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires
>
> >Joe Michels,
> >
> >I too am looking for new tires for my '51 F1. Are 600.16 the correct size?
> >
> >Thanks, Frank
> >
> >Joe Michels wrote:
> >
> >> Jeff-- I too looked at Coker when I got my tires for my 52 F1. Play with
> >> the numbers real close, ie., the $$-- I found that after paying shipping,
> >> handling, etc, I was money ahead to buy locally. It took them about 3
> weeks
> >> to get what I wanted, 600X16's, however they have been fine. The local
> guy
> >> may be more and with tax, however, once you factor in handling, shipping,
> >> etc it came out a wash for me PLUS if there was something wrong, I was
> able
> >> to go look the local guy in the eye and get help!!!
> >>
> >> Joebob
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jeff Hazewinkel
> >> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> >> Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 3:19 PM
> >> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tires
> >>
> >> >I am looking for a good source for tires for my 47. I need 7.50 - 17
> >> >'s. I have contacted my local tire shop and they can find them but I
> >> >would like to compare with someone who specializes in tires for older
> >> >vehicles. Please let me know if you have found a good source.
> >> >
> >> >Jeff
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:22:52 EST
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: '56 Horn Mount

In a message dated 12/22/1998 12:33:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Dan_RuthClark compuserve.com writes:


Dan the Merc' Man. = >>
Oh, yeah. They work great. In fact, I had a pair of 6v trumpet horns mounted
on the hood (outside) of a '61 Renault Dauphine (12V) for the short time I had
it (it broke in two at the floorpan due to rust!). Anyway, I also had a pair
on my '52 running 12V, then used them on my 56. A total of 23 years, and they
never complained, but they moved people out of the way! Now that I think
about it I may have cooked a relay. Easy swap for a 12V.
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:22:53 EST
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Gauges for 12 volt conversion

In a message dated 12/21/1998 10:50:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
plainbill hotmail.com writes:


None of my gauges work at this time. Would like to use the original
setup, but need the following information.

1. Need a 12 volt sending unit for my gas tank.
2. Need some sort of conversion or resistor for all my
6 volt gauges.
>>
Please view Steve Delanty's page, http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/, where there
is a 6V to 12V to 6V page with all sorts of helpful information.
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:22:51 EST
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR. Steering Conversio

In a message dated 12/22/1998 10:28:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,
fredg454 concentric.net writes:



> I have a 56 F-100....could you fill me in on the particulars of the
> toyota power steering modification. >>
Take a look at Dan's F1 page, http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.GeoCities.com/MotorCity/3623. If I
remember he tried this route and may have pieces for sale. Wouldn't clear his
351 headers, but his is an F1, not a 56. You shouldn't have such problems
with the increased frame width.
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 22:57:59 -0700
From: "Joe Michels"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires

Howard-- My truck is a 52 F1. The truck is at the body shop currently,
however, when I get it back, would be happy to get you pictures of the spare
tire mounting assembly, rack, etc. Probably 6-8 weeks down the road? Will
that work?

Joebob
- -----Original Message-----
From: Howard Tarnoff
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires


>Joe,
>
>What year is your truck? I would be very interested in pictures of the
spare
>tire mount. My truck, 55 F100, came with 15" Tires. I have had Cooker
Bias
>Wide Whites on it for a year and am very happy with them.
>
>Joe Michels wrote:
>
>> Frank-- The 600X16's were the original tires on my truck and it has 58000
>> miles on it. In fact, the spare is the original spare, never has hit the
>> ground, however, weather checked etc. The shop manual that I have
>> identifies the 600X16's as the correct original tire.
>>
>> Hope that this helps!!
>>
>> Joebob
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Frank Mester Jr.
>> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>> Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 6:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires
>>
>> >Joe Michels,
>> >
>> >I too am looking for new tires for my '51 F1. Are 600.16 the correct
size?
>> >
>> >Thanks, Frank
>> >
>> >Joe Michels wrote:
>> >
>> >> Jeff-- I too looked at Coker when I got my tires for my 52 F1. Play
with
>> >> the numbers real close, ie., the $$-- I found that after paying
shipping,
>> >> handling, etc, I was money ahead to buy locally. It took them about 3
>> weeks
>> >> to get what I wanted, 600X16's, however they have been fine. The
local
>> guy
>> >> may be more and with tax, however, once you factor in handling,
shipping,
>> >> etc it came out a wash for me PLUS if there was something wrong, I was
>> able
>> >> to go look the local guy in the eye and get help!!!
>> >>
>> >> Joebob
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Jeff Hazewinkel
>> >> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>> >> Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 3:19 PM
>> >> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tires
>> >>
>> >> >I am looking for a good source for tires for my 47. I need 7.50 -
17
>> >> >'s. I have contacted my local tire shop and they can find them but I
>> >> >would like to compare with someone who specializes in tires for older
>> >> >vehicles. Please let me know if you have found a good source.
>> >> >
>> >> >Jeff
>> >> >
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 03:38:17 -0600
From: "Mitch Miller"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Tires

>I am looking for a good source for tires for my 47. I need 7.50 -
17
>'s. I have contacted my local tire shop and they can find them but I
>would like to compare with someone who specializes in tires for older
>vehicles. Please let me know if you have found a good source.

>Jeff

Hey Jeff, I ran with some authentic-style tires for years. Then I
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