pre61-list-digest Tuesday, December 22 1998 Volume 02 : Number 351



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FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR. Steering Conversio
Re: FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR. Steering Conversio
RE: FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR. Steerin g Conversio
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re:Spare Carrier (Jonas)
FTE Pre61 - steering wheel question
FTE Pre61 - Tires
RE: FTE Pre61 - steering wheel question
Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires
Re: FTE Pre61 - steering wheel question
Re: FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR. Steering Conversio
FTE Pre61 - Gauges for 12 volt conversion
FTE Pre61 - Re: '56 Horn Mount
Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires

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Date: 21 Dec 1998 07:40:12 -0500
From: "Franz, Gary"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR. Steering Conversio

I have just completed the installation of a Toyota Power Steering
conversion in my '53 F-100 using the stock column and steering wheel.
I need some advise on how to hook up the stock horn button. The Toyota
Steering box does not have a through hole in it like the stock Ford
steering box and I do not know how to run the horn wire. Can anyone
offer me any suggetions.

Thanks,

Gary.Franz Dana.Com
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:15:54 +0000
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR. Steering Conversio

Gary,
I am running the same gear but with a GM column, I haven't got as far as the
horn yet, but was wondering which of the two holes in the Toyota box was the
pressure side and which was the return side, I've asked mid-fifties and SoCal
without luck. Is it the hole closest to he frame, or to the engine that gets
the pressure hose?

Fred

Franz, Gary wrote:

> I have just completed the installation of a Toyota Power Steering
> conversion in my '53 F-100 using the stock column and steering wheel.
> I need some advise on how to hook up the stock horn button. The Toyota
> Steering box does not have a through hole in it like the stock Ford
> steering box and I do not know how to run the horn wire. Can anyone
> offer me any suggetions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary.Franz Dana.Com
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:37:20 -0600
From: "Mike Morton "
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR. Steerin g Conversio

You might want to try calling Bob's F100 Parts. His number is 909-681-1956

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Fred g 454 [SMTP:fredg454 concentric.net.wgcinet]
> Sent:Monday, December 21, 1998 4:16 AM
> To:pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:Re: FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR.
> Steering Conversio
>
> Gary,
> I am running the same gear but with a GM column, I haven't got as far as
> the
> horn yet, but was wondering which of the two holes in the Toyota box was
> the
> pressure side and which was the return side, I've asked mid-fifties and
> SoCal
> without luck. Is it the hole closest to he frame, or to the engine that
> gets
> the pressure hose?
>
> Fred
>
> Franz, Gary wrote:
>
> > I have just completed the installation of a Toyota Power Steering
> > conversion in my '53 F-100 using the stock column and steering
> wheel.
> > I need some advise on how to hook up the stock horn button. The
> Toyota
> > Steering box does not have a through hole in it like the stock Ford
> > steering box and I do not know how to run the horn wire. Can anyone
> > offer me any suggetions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gary.Franz Dana.Com
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 15:33:20 EST
From: TNickolson aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re:Spare Carrier (Jonas)

It looks like you have the answer to the spare tire mounting problem. Now I
have to find one, easier said than done. What does the jack look like and the
tire iron style? This is the last thing that needs to be done and I am
finishes with all the major items. After this I can start nit picking and
take care of the little things. Speaking of little things, what does the
etching on the glass look like and are there kits to do it.

Jonas if you get a chance I would appreciate pictures of the spare tire
mounting. Send them to:
Tom Nickolson
5307 East Avenue
West Palm Beach, Fl.
33407

Thanks


Tom
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:33:24 EST
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - steering wheel question

Did all the 1952 Ford trucks have the black three-spoke steering wheel? Mine
is different. It is an ivory colored two-spoke with a chrome ring running
around the outside lower half of the horn button. The center piece is clear
plastic with the Ford logo embeded in it. Does anyone else have this wheel
too? I haven't found it in any of my books.
Thanks for any help,
Paul
'52 F-3
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:09:09 -0600
From: Jeff Hazewinkel
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tires

I am looking for a good source for tires for my 47. I need 7.50 - 17
's. I have contacted my local tire shop and they can find them but I
would like to compare with someone who specializes in tires for older
vehicles. Please let me know if you have found a good source.

Jeff

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:23:04 -0600
From: "Rich Garber"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - steering wheel question

> Did all the 1952 Ford trucks have the black three-spoke steering
> wheel?

I believe they were all the same

> is different. It is an ivory colored two-spoke with a chrome ring running
> around the outside lower half of the horn button. The center
> piece is clear
> plastic with the Ford logo embedded in it.

Sounds like a mid sixties wheel, from a custom cab.

Rich
54 F100
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 18:14:49 EST
From: GILASAILR aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires

Jeff,
Try Coker and some other companies listed in ( were else?) Hemmings Motor
News.
Truly the best source for these things.
Your 47 must be a 'heavy duty' if it has 17" wheels, I believe.
I have a 47 myself but a 1/2 ton panel.
P.S. I am in need of a really clean straight hood trim strip center piece if
you come across one I would appreciate a note. TIA.

Drive slow........all the better to enjoy the scenery!
Happy Holidays to All FTE Folk and esp. the Paynes.!!

Gary Oberbeck
gilasailr aol.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 18:44:52 EST
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - steering wheel question

someone, sometime writes:


> wheel?
> is different. It is an ivory colored two-spoke with a chrome ring running
> around the outside lower half of the horn button. The center
> piece is clear
> plastic with the Ford logo embedded in it.
>>
Could very well be a car steering wheel of the same vintage as the truck.
My '51 has a car wheel from ~50. I picked up the horn ring at Carlisle last
year. Several horn rings or horn buttons fit, full circle and half circle.
In my case, the steering wheel was upside down. The master spline on the car
wheel was opposite the master spline on the truck wheel! I removed the car
master spline with a reciprocating saw, and turned it right side up. I think
this was a common mod to trucks of the era. Therefore, historically correct,
but not stock. Don't know what I think of the ivory color, though... mine is
black.
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:27:23 PST
From: "mike omlin"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Advise Request for Horn Wire Routing PWR. Steering Conversio

I have a 56 F-100....could you fill me in on the particulars of the
toyota power steering modification....what yr...truck or car?...do you
use the cross steering set up or what?....thanks in advance
Mike Omlin
somewhere near Seattle

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:40:47 PST
From: "Bill Casady"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Gauges for 12 volt conversion

I have a 54 F250 which has been converted from 6 volt to 12 volt.
None of my gauges work at this time. Would like to use the original
setup, but need the following information.

1. Need a 12 volt sending unit for my gas tank.
2. Need some sort of conversion or resistor for all my
6 volt gauges.

Can anyone send information regarding conversion of my present gauges
or detail information as to how to install some sort of resistor in the
wiring?

Any help or direction would be appreciated. Thanks!



Just Plain Bill


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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 00:23:30 -0500
From: Ruth Ann Clark
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: '56 Horn Mount

I am restoring a '56 panel . I have a '54 parts truck that was
totally stock and it had dual horns. I am thinking of putting the dual
horns on my panel. They were mirror image brackets as were the dual
horns. Was this an option (dual/single horns)? The '54 was 6 volt. =

Anybody converted to 12 volt and used the original horns and relay?
Dan the Merc' Man. =

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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 01:31:17 EST
From: TonyDePaul aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tires

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Jeff,

Your local shop is probably going to order those tires from Coker. You might
as well do that yourself and cut out the middle man.

I don't recommend ordering "blems" from Coker. I did once (at their operator's
suggestion) to save a lousy $10 per tire. What they sent me were "rejects,"
not blems. I don't know what kind of defects they had to begin with, but
someone had taken a grinder and removed so much material from the sidewalls
that I considered them unsafe to put on the road.

Bottom line, though: I complained and the company made good, after some email
back and forth. They reimbursed me for the return shipping and I gladly paid
the extra $50 for a set of five "unblemished" tires. (This time I inspected
them before signing off on the delivery.) I've been happy with the tires for
two years and will probably buy from Coker again.

Their number is 1-800-251-6336.

Tony
'49 F-1

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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:09:09 -0600
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I am looking for a good source for tires for my 47. I need 7.50 - 17
's. I have contacted my local tire shop and they can find them but I
would like to compare with someone who specializes in tires for older
vehicles. Please let me know if you have found a good source.....


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