pre61-list-digest Friday, December 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 347



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FTE Pre61 - Re:gas tank repair
RE: FTE Pre61 - Re:Spare Carrier
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re:Spare Carrier
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re:Spare Carrier

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 19:50:18 -0800
From: "Conor Mulroney"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re:gas tank repair

Mike,
I had to repair a gas tank in a 1940 Chevy (sorry, I have that in
addition to my 1954 F100 ) that didn't have enough metal left to acid dip
at the local radiator shop. I used a company in Stockton CA called Gas Tank
Renu. They dipped the tank and coated the inside and outside in a special
polyurethane? and then baked it. They claim a lifetime guarentee on
non-comercial vehicles. It is along the lines of Henry Ford - it comes in
any color you want as long as it's black. They basically use your existing
metal as a skeleton for their tank. They claimed to be able to seal tanks
with large holes/rust problems. I have had no problems with the tank over
the last 18 months and I do not drive the car much.
I went this route rather than the $600-$800 stainless steel tanks that
were the only other replacements for this car. The cost was about $200
including shipping back to me in the Tahoe CA area. I am satisfied with
their results and they had a very rapid turn around time. Their number is
(800) 997-3688 and you can find them in the "services offered" section of
Hemmings.
I hope this helps anyone interested.

Conor Mulroney


Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:56:52 -0800
From: Mike Foudy
Subject: FTE Pre61 - fuel tank repair

Anyone have experience and recommendation for gas tank repair product?
We're looking at two Hemmings advertisers of cleaners and sealers. Got
anything good to say about one of them? Will be used on F-1 that sat
outside at Lake Tahoe for twenty years. Not a bad place to hibernate.
Thanks in advance for your help.

Mike Foudy


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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:55:05 -0800
From: "Vierra, William BGI SF"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re:Spare Carrier

I am also trying to determine the exact location and options for the spare
on a 51 F1. What I have found out is on 48 through 52 the common location
for the spare is under the bed near the rear bumper. The spare was held in
place by a carrier that is at a 90 degree angle to the frame. The bolts
that held it are very odd looking with threads a stop that is about a
quarter inch wider than the bold and a quarter inch long then a shaft of
about three inches, at the end is a loop. There are four of these. Now I
must say I have never seen the complete assembly in one piece I have seen
both sides on three different trucks in wrecking yards. That's why I say I
am still looking. I also have a complete carrier from a 54 F-100 and it is
very different from those on an F-1. This makes sense as the frames changed
substantially from the two models.

Additionally the spare was as an option put in the bed standing upright
along the passenger side toward the cab. I have only seen pictures of this
on old Ford literature.
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:28:44 EST
From: TNickolson aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re:Spare Carrier

Look's like this is a real challenge to find a complete mounting assembly for
a spare tire. I have seen the spare tire mounted on the passenger side of the
bed but that requires a special rear fender. The fender has a notch out of the
top/ forward to allow the tire to rest in. The wheel bracket was mounted to
the side of the bed and had a three bolt hub pattern to mount the tire.

Does any one have a spare on his or her truck? Look like the 48 to 52 F1's
were the same.

Tom
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:59:37 EST
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re:Spare Carrier

In a message dated 12/17/1998 11:15:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,
William.Vierra barclaysglobal.com writes:


on a 51 F1. >>
I have the complete setup under my '51. It was just flappin' in the breeze
when I got the truck, with the 16" spare tossed up in the bed. The tire
(which may or may not be original) actually holds air, but I wouldn't dare put
any weight on it.
Anyway, back to the carrier. The 'bolts' use a clevis pin arrangement. I
don't know the correct terms for the individual pieces, and my 1948-1956 Ford
Truck Parts and Accessories Illustration Catalog does NOT show the F-1
carrier, but I'll try to expand on William's description. Bolted to the frame
on each side are the 'eyes' (loops). The eyes have a flange (William called
them a 'stop') above them which contacts the frame, and on top of the lower
frame flange is your usual washer and nut (I think it might be a castellated
nut with a cotter pin). From each of the eyes hangs the 'bolt' part, Y shaped
with holes in each side of the Y. The clevis pin goes through the Y and the
eye, and has a cotter pin keeping it there. My bolts are longer than three
inches, I'm pretty sure. I can go measure things in daylight if anyone needs
the info. I don't have a digital camera, and Santa doesn't think I've been
quite that good. The 'nut' part which threads onto the bolt is a little
weird, kinda like a lug nut, tapered/rounded on one end. This rounded end
fits into indentations on the bottom of the carrier. One end of the carrier
is slotted, so you can loosen the nut, then swing the bolt out of the way
(pivoting on its clevis pin), and let the tire down. Try this in your
business suit on the way to work. The carrier is a shaped piece of channel,
tapered toward the ends, with a center section attached which protrudes up
into the center of the spare wheel. Keeps the wheel from sliding around if
the tire loses pressure. The carrier does mount at 90 degrees to the frame as
William said. Some other trucks have it at a diagonal, which makes the
removable end easier to get to.
Mine was beat up and rusted. I can't get the eyes out of the frame (don't
need to), and the bolts are fine thread, and began to twist when they were
firmly in the vise with the 1/2" breaker bar on the nut. Fortunately I got
one off, and that's the one that's all greased up on the removable end. Did
make routing the dual exhaust a little tricky. I had one original pipe and
its mirror image bent, and they fit nicely. If I had the original hangers it
probably would have been a piece of cake. 'nother story.
I can go scope it out in more detail if that doesn't quite describe it. I
don't have any spare pieces, nor know where any are.
Jonas
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