pre61-list-digest Thursday, December 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 339



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Looking for info on '49 F9 HTL
Re: FTE Pre61 - Rearend Data
Re: FTE Pre61 - '47 ID tags
Re: FTE Pre61 - Chat
FTE Pre61 - RE: Interior Chrome Trim
Re: FTE Pre61 - '47 ID tags
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Chat
FTE Pre61 - SandBlaster
FTE Pre61 - RE: 1960 f100 cab mounts
Re: FTE Pre61 - SandBlaster
Re: FTE Pre61 - stock seat covers
FTE Pre61 - Rear end data
FTE Pre61 - ID Tags
RE: FTE Pre61 - SandBlaster
Re: FTE Pre61 - ID Tags
FTE Pre61 - Rear bumper
FTE Pre61 - F-250 tailgates
FTE Pre61 - '54 air deflectors
Re: FTE Pre61 - '47 ID tags

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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 05:02:47 -0800
From: "Neal, Larry (LANE)"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Looking for info on '49 F9 HTL

I just acquired a 1949 Mod 9 (F9?) HTL stakebed truck with hydraulic lifts.
Can anyone point me to or help me find out just what I've got? It's in
wonderful shape and goes well with my 2 '52 8N tractors. I'd appreciate any
assistance provided.

Larry in Cowtown
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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 08:49:38 +0000
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Rearend Data

I too wondered if there was a way to ID the rear end, If mine is stock it's
probably the only part of my driveline that is... I'd like to know?

Paul L. Jackson wrote:

> I have a 1953 F-100 that I saved from a field. I'm in the process of
> tearing it down to the frame. I was looking to put in a Ford 9" rearend.
> When I finally looked at the rearend I realized it was not stock. There is
> a data plate with the following on it " WDM-AG OHC" on the top line and
> the bottom line has "3.00 9 314A" can anyone tell me what this means or
> can anyone point me to how to identify a rearend.
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul Jackson
>
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 09:32:34 EST
From: Elling1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '47 ID tags

I have a 48 f-1 and it has the plate in the glove box, and one on the
firewall.
Elling1
Point in time
my 48 F-1
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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 09:49:55 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Chat

At 09:18 PM 12/8/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Ken's message prompted me to check the specific rev#. I use 3.01 and it's
broke.
>
>Ray C

Let's keep this off the list please.




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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 08:42:48 -0800
From: "Chris Johnson"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE: Interior Chrome Trim

Matt, My '55 f-250 custom cab has a chrome trim accross the front of the
dash and one on each door.

C. Johnson
e-mail jchrisjohnson usa.net

>Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:56:55 -0500
>From: matts fiam.net
>Subject: FTE Pre61 - stock seat covers

> I am looking for a source for original seat covers (two-tone red
> and white) for 1953 custom cab. also has anyone ever seen a
> custom cab 53-55 with chrome trim piece that goes on dash and doors?
> thanks
> matt
> 1953 f-100
>

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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 12:20:35 -0500
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '47 ID tags

> I have a 48 f-1 and it has the plate in the glove box, and one on the
> firewall.
> Elling1
> Point in time
> my 48 F-1

Thanks for this tidbit, this is what set me on on this ID plate quest, there
is a junked '48 F-1 body in the woods behind my house, there for 20+ years.
It had a tag identical in format to my '47's and one on the firewall. None
of the other 46-47's I've seen had such a tag.




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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 13:00:16 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Chat

Notes on our web chat:

1. Windows95-Netscape will sometimes beep in versions prior to
4.0b3 when you hit the enter key.

2. Unfortunately, the implementation of earlier (pre 4.0) Java
on the Macintosh browsers leaves a lot to be desired. These
Macintosh versions of Netscape have some serious memory
problems. An article discussing some of the problems with
these versions can be found at:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.news.com/Rumormill/Archives/rum10_11_96.html

Newer versions should work, but may have performance problems.

3. AOL uses a proxy server to access the Internet. The vast
majority of ISPs don't. With a proxy server, you are not
connected directly to the Internet. Chat will not work
with many proxy servers (including AOL's) and some
firewalls.

4. For PCs: To use it, you must be running Internet Explorer
3.0 (or later) or Netscape Navigator 3.0 (or later), or
another Java-enabled browser. For best results, we highly
recommend Internet Explorer 3.02 and Netscape 3.01, both
of which contain crucial bug fixes over their 3.0 versions.

5. Netscape Navigator 3.0 users (Standard or Gold versions):
You may very well experience a browser crash. This is due
to a memory leak problem in the Navigator software -- not
the Java code. We recommend upgrading to at least version
3.01.

6. Netscape 3.x browsers on Linux have major Java problems.

7. Sometimes Internet Explorer 4 acts flakey (crashes).

8. When the telnet version is released (soon), you can use
telnet to chat instead of your browser. This may work
with AOL too.

9. If AOL does not work with telnet, we may consider adding
HTML CGI chat. This option will only be available if we
can afford to upgrade our server because HTML CGI chat
places an enormous load on the system.


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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:24:10 -0400
From: "Miguel..."
Subject: FTE Pre61 - SandBlaster

I am just going to start cleaning the parts of my F-1 1951, How much
pressure do I need to run a Sandblaster?. I want to buy a new compressor
with the sandblaster, what brand is better? price? ect.
Thanks for your help.
Miguel...


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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 14:16:06 -0800
From: "Kenneth A. Craig"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE: 1960 f100 cab mounts

I found this ad in Hemmings Motor News. I have not called them. Let us
know what you find out. Ken Craig

FORD 1957-60 pickup floor pans and front cab braces and inner cab corners.
Classic Fabrication, 978-988-0009, MA. (DEC)

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Does anyone know of a source for these replacement mounts?

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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 17:40:30 -0800
From: "Jason Piccola"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - SandBlaster

A very important feature that you will need to look at is CFM (Cubic
Feet/Minuet) This is the volume of air that your compressor will deliver.
I have a 60 gallon Craftsman 6.5 HP compressor that delivers 11.0 to 15.0
CFM. Usually, the larger the air tank, the greater the CFM.

As for what compressor to buy, it is up to you and your facilities. If you
go with a larger compressor, you might need 220 volt current. Or you might
want a larger portable unit to move around. Craftsman makes a good
compressor. There are other companies that carry them such as TIP Tools in
Canfield Ohio. Their compressors tend to be more expensive. (Tip Tools
also give diagrams on how to set up a compressor with steel pipe.) I hope
this information helps

Jason Piccola


Miguel... wrote:

> I am just going to start cleaning the parts of my F-1 1951, How much
> pressure do I need to run a Sandblaster?. I want to buy a new compressor
> with the sandblaster, what brand is better? price? ect.
> Thanks for your help.
> Miguel...
>
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:24:59 -0500
From: ynot80 juno.com (Tony P.)
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - stock seat covers

I have a 1955 F-100 that has chrome trim pieces on both doors and the
dash . I had been wondering why they were there because I had never seen
any F-100's with that on the truck . I don't even know if mine is
original ? Is there a easy way to tell ?

Thanks,
Tony
ynot80 juno.com

On Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:56:55 -0500 matts fiam.net writes:
>I am looking for a source for original seat covers (two-tone red and
>white) for 1953 custom cab. also has anyone ever seen a custom cab
>53-55 with chrome trim piece that goes on dash and doors?
>thanks
>matt
>1953 f-100
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:37:36 EST
From: MichellHC aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Rear end data

Dear Paul Jackson,

I am not looking at any rear end codes as I write this but I would suspect
that from the codes you gave that you have a 3 to 1 or if you perfer a 3:00.
Nine inch ford rear already in it. Both Ford 8" and 9" rears loaded from the
front of the banjo housing. A quick way to tell which is which at a glance is
to look at the very bottom nut on the housing where the carrier assembly is
attached to the banjo housing, If you can get the nut off with a socket you
have a 8" rear, if it takes an end wrench to remove it, then you have a 9"
rear.

Michelle
Chelle's 56 Hauler
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:14:23 -0500
From: "Bob"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ID Tags

\/ The mystery deepens, Ken Marty says he's got a ID book showing glove box
\/ tags back to '46, Gary Oberbeck says he's got a '47 pickup and a panel
\/ truck and neither has a glove box tag. Has anyone else with a "real
\/ classic" pickup got a ID plate on the glove box door?

My '52 "Real Classic" (as in almost original) has the ID plate on the glove
box door also...

Bob

'52 F1
'77 F150 SuperCab
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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:31:43 -0600
From: "Rich Garber"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - SandBlaster

> I am just going to start cleaning the parts of my F-1 1951, How much
> pressure do I need to run a Sandblaster?. I want to buy a new compressor
> with the sandblaster, what brand is better? price? ect.
> Thanks for your help.
> Miguel...
>
The more you can afford the better, I have a 7hp, 4cly with a 60 gal.
tank (can't ya see me glowing, happens everytime I think about it).
It throws 18 c.f.m. at 90 p.s.i.. I did all my own blasting including
the frame.

You can use a smaller compressor with a gravity feed, works well with
small parts. For the frame I used a pressure feed, if you havn't used
one of these, I would highly recommend it, although it uses alot of air
my compressor still cycled but I would want any less of a machine.

With the gravity feed it is not uncommon to blast at 100 psi.
With the pressure feed around 80psi and it etched my garage floor!

Get the biggest compressor you can afford, you'll have to paint
H.V.L.P gun needs airflow.

Rich
54 F100
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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 22:37:37 -0500
From: "Frank Mester Jr."
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - ID Tags

I have a '51 F1 and I have a tag on the inside of my glove box door and a tag
on the Fire wall.
Frank

Bob wrote:

> \/ The mystery deepens, Ken Marty says he's got a ID book showing glove box
> \/ tags back to '46, Gary Oberbeck says he's got a '47 pickup and a panel
> \/ truck and neither has a glove box tag. Has anyone else with a "real
> \/ classic" pickup got a ID plate on the glove box door?
>
> My '52 "Real Classic" (as in almost original) has the ID plate on the glove
> box door also...
>
> Bob
>
> '52 F1
> '77 F150 SuperCab
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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 23:00:55 -0800
From: "Abram H. Stauffer"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Rear bumper

Stock Experts (and I don't mean Wall Streeters):
What are the measurements (length, height, depth) of the stock rear
bumpers for '53-56 Pickups. Mine never had one (it was an option) and I
think I want to put one on to protect my gate and fenders from little
"fender benders". (Good idea, right?) I have seen some in local junk
yards. Some of these were on newer trucks and I thought they may be
identical.
Thanks, Abe '54 F-100
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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 23:05:54 -0800
From: "Abram H. Stauffer"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - F-250 tailgates

F-250 owners:
What are the measurements of an F-250 tailgate? I rescued a tailgate in
decent shape, knowing that it was too big for my F-100, and I want to
know if it is indeed for an F-250.
Thanks, Abe (hate to see good sheet metal rust away)
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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 23:24:16 -0800
From: "Abram H. Stauffer"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - '54 air deflectors

'54 owners:
I need to hear from you. Does the '54 F-100 have the radiator cross
support rods that would neccessitate the air deflectors to have 2
flanges on the sides to accomadate these support rods? As I posted
earlier, the guy at Early Ford in Ohio says the '53 and '54 air
deflectors were identical and these 2 years did not have the support
rods. I did want to argue with the guy. I think I'm right but I just
want to get a general concensus from you experts before I buy the wrong
air deflector again!
Thanks in advance for your help, Abe
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:28:46 EST
From: GILASAILR aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '47 ID tags....


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