pre61-list-digest Saturday, March 27 1999 Volume 03 : Number 089



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Re: Master Cylinder
FTE Pre61 - Some of my best friends are...
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Master Cylinder
FTE Pre61 - F-100 1953 Specifications.
FTE Pre61 - Cam Bearings
Re: FTE Pre61 - F-100 1953 Specifications.
RE: FTE Pre61 - F-100 1953 Specifications.
FTE Pre61 - 56 f-100 gear ratios
FTE Pre61 - 56 f-100 gear ratios

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 07:00:05 -0500
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Master Cylinder

Stan wrote: "I am finally up to the brakes on my F 1 1951. Do I have
to replace the master cylinder, and wheel cylinders or just rebuild
them? I think it has been about 5 years since the truck has been
running. Cooling, fuel, and wiring are done.
It is now time to attack the brakes and exhaust system. Thanks in
advance for any advise."

In my book, Stan, it all depends on what you find when you take the
units apart. If the cylinders are pitted and/or scored, don't even think
twice about replacing them, although there are outfits that can sleeve
them. I'm willing to bet that's a pricey alternative, though. If the
cylinders are in good shape, rebuild them, although I have found that
sometimes the price of rebuilt wheel cylinders is very close tot he
price of the rebuild kit, so I go ahead and buy the "new" cylinders.
Grover's problem was that while the cylinders were all in pretty good
shape, the brake lines were full of a strange concrete-like substance!
But then, the truck had sat 23 years, giving the brake fluid lots of
time to transmute into something else. :-)
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Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
inaccessible part of the vehicle."

grover ford-trucks.com
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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:19:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Some of my best friends are...

Some of my best friends are C**** truck owners. I even
had one to my house for dinner last week. We disussed
thing like "Why Fords dominate NASCAR" and "Why C****
cams are so soft." He seems like he is a really nice
fellow, but I wouldn't want him dating my daughter.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V

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Do You Yahoo!?

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 20:21:42 EST
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Master Cylinder

Stan,
I did the same thing that Don did to Grover. "Betsy" sat for 26 years and I
did not trust any part of the brake system, even if the parts were rebuilt.
The system was dry, but had some gummy-looking stuff all in it. I wanted to
play it safe, so I purchased a new master cylinder, wheel cylinders and
replaced all brake lines with stainless tubing and the hoses too. The way I
look at it, You can cut corners on many areas of the truck to save a buck, but
the brake system is not one to shortchange.

Paul
'52 F-3
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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:26:35 -0500
From: USO PERSONAL
Subject: FTE Pre61 - F-100 1953 Specifications.

Hi all.

I'm sending this note from Colombia S.A. =20

Recently I bought a F-100 53, V8 not flat heads, 4 speeds. The truck =
has the original engine running perfectly, the only problem I have is =
that the truck runs very slow. I had checked form outside (Turning the =
driving axle while measuring the degree of rotation on the wheels) and =
the rear axle has a ratio near 2.2 =A1!!!!! What kind of gears do I have =
in my truck? I know that I can find by checking the axle, but I want to =
know more about the original specs..


My plans are to replace the ratio for a 3.5, but before doing it I want =
to check the expected performance of the truck, for that I want to know =
more about the engine such as Peak torque, maximum RPM and other =
specifications.

Thanks for helping. =20


LEG

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:10:34 -0500
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Cam Bearings

Well, everybody, after getting my 239 back from the shop today I can't
decide whether to hang my head and cry or get on the phone and yell at
somebody.
I just had cam bearings installed in the block, and when I checked it
out after I got home, I discovered the bearings that had been sold to me
as Y-block cam bearings are incorrect. I had not looked really hard at
them before I had them installed. Basically, none of the holes line up
except the bottom ones. Well, the hole supplying oil to the driver's
side rocker shaft lines up, but not the other one!
The '54 Ford Truck shop manual tells me there are supposed to be 5
holes in all but the front bearing. The set now residing in my engine
has 3 holes in all but the front one. I had gone for the later style
bearing set, because I am using a later style cam (grooved #3 journal,as
opposed to cross-drilled). Is there a possibility the later style
bearings had only 3 holes? Do I need to drill out the #3 so I can get
oil to my lifters? Or, have I been rooked, and should trot down to the
machine shop and go ballistic?
And here I thought everything was going so smoothly...
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'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
innaccesible part of the vehicle."

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:42:25 -0500
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - F-100 1953 Specifications.

At 09:26 AM 3/27/99 -0500, USO PERSONAL wrote:
>Hi all.
>
>I'm sending this note from Colombia S.A.
>
>Recently I bought a F-100 53, V8 not flat heads, 4 speeds. The truck has
>the original engine running perfectly, the only problem I have is that the
>truck runs very slow. I had checked form outside (Turning the driving axle
>while measuring the degree of rotation on the wheels) and the rear axle has
>a ratio near 2.2 !!!!! What kind of gears do I have in my truck? I know
>that I can find by checking the axle, but I want to know more about the
>original specs..

Probably really 4.4 something: if you only had one wheel off the ground,
the differential will make it spin twice as fast as when both wheels are
free to turn.

>My plans are to replace the ratio for a 3.5, but before doing it I want to
>check the expected performance of the truck, for that I want to know more
>about the engine such as Peak torque, maximum RPM and other specifications.
>
>Thanks for helping.

Your engine could be a Y-block, although I thought that 1953 trucks still
used flatheads. You can find some information about Y-blocks at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wrljet.com/engines/yblock.html. There are several people on the
list with this engine.

Tom Teixeiramailto:tjt world.std.com
94 Taurus SHO 5-speedNESHOC/SHO Registry
'66 Mustang convertible (200 cid auto)http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt
'35 Ford Pickup (flathead V8)


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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 23:38:43 -0500
From: "Miguel....."
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - F-100 1953 Specifications.

Are you from Colombia???

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De: USO PERSONAL
Para: 'pre61-list ford-trucks.com'
Fecha: viernes 26 de marzo de 1999 21:34
Asunto: FTE Pre61 - F-100 1953 Specifications.


Hi all.

I'm sending this note from Colombia S.A.

Recently I bought a F-100 53, V8 not flat heads, 4 speeds. The truck has
the original engine running perfectly, the only problem I have is that the
truck runs very slow. I had checked form outside (Turning the driving axle
while measuring the degree of rotation on the wheels) and the rear axle has
a ratio near 2.2 !!!!! What kind of gears do I have in my truck? I know
that I can find by checking the axle, but I want to know more about the
original specs..


My plans are to replace the ratio for a 3.5, but before doing it I want to
check the expected performance of the truck, for that I want to know more
about the engine such as Peak torque, maximum RPM and other specifications.

Thanks for helping.


LEG

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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 21:38:03 -0800
From: "Erik Anton"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 56 f-100 gear ratios

I recently aquired a 56 F-100 as a gift from my uncle. This is the first Ford I have owned and this is my first attempt at a ground up restoration. I have enjoyed reading all your e-mails and I am learning alot, I hope my truck looks like some of the pictures in the gallery someday. The drivetrain my uncle had in it was a 360 and 4-speed trans from a 68 f-250 and the original 3.92 rear.
I need some advice from someone more knowledgeableon the following things:
-is it possible to change gear ratios for a better highway ratio without changing the original housing? If so does anybody know where I can get the parts?
-I want to put better motor and trans mounts in, can anybody recommend a supplier for those?
-I have rust holes at the front of my roof like some of the other guys that wrote in. What is the best repair for that? Fiberglass roof, cut & weld patches ,or scrapyard roof.
thanks ahead of time for any help you can offer, Erik


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Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 21:38:03 -0800
From: "Erik Anton"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 56 f-100 gear ratios

I recently aquired a 56 F-100 as a gift from my uncle. This is the first Ford I have owned and this is my first attempt at a ground up restoration. I have enjoyed reading all your e-mails and I am learning alot, I hope my truck looks like some of the pictures in the gallery someday. The drivetrain my uncle had in it was a 360 and 4-speed trans from a 68 f-250 and the original 3.92 rear.
I need some advice from someone more knowledgeableon the following things:
-is it possible to change gear ratios for a better highway ratio without changing the original housing? If so does anybody know where I can get the parts?
-I want to put better motor and trans mounts in, can anybody recommend a supplier for those?
-I have rust holes at the front of my roof like some of the other guys that wrote in. What is the best repair for that? Fiberglass roof, cut & weld patches ,or scrapyard roof.
thanks ahead of time for any help you can offer, Erik


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