pre61-list-digest Monday, March 22 1999 Volume 03 : Number 082



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - 302 to be or not to be? 351w to be or not to be?
FTE Pre61 - vintage license plates
FTE Pre61 - Wheels Vintiques
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site updates
FTE Pre61 - 302 or 351w
FTE Pre61 - overdrive
FTE Pre61 - '54 gravel shield
FTE Pre61 - Gas Tank
FTE Pre61 - 1950 f-1
Re: FTE Pre61 - 1950 f-1
Re: FTE Pre61 - 1950 f-1
Re: FTE Pre61 - 1950 f-1
FTE Pre61 - Valve Lifter Problem:
FTE Pre61 - Driveshaft Angle

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 07:50:38 -0800
From: joyce
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 302 to be or not to be? 351w to be or not to be?

Billy

Billy you had a question that has not been answered by anyone on the list
yet soo.. I'll give my humble opinion. If I was interest in a modest amount of
horsepower I would use the 302. I have a 351w that is modified and It has more
than enough power but a 302 would be more economical on gas. My 351 is getting 10
miles per gallon with a aod transmission (overdrive) , but it also has a single
plane torker II manifold and a 750 carb. with a 280 degree duration 110 degree
separation cam with .500 in lift. In retrospect if I was to build another motor I
would use the 302 with a 3.55 to 1.00 rear gear and a aode transmission. Why the
gear ratio and the aode instead of the aod? Both transmissions are automatic
overdrives, but the aode is electronic controlled. WHOA WAIT A MINUTE YOU SAY!!
The transmission is going on a older model engine! Good news is that Braumann
Engineering makes a computer control for the aode that cost $399. I HIGHLY
ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO TO BRAUMANN WEB SITE AND READ THE INFORMATION FOR
THEMSELVES. The computer allows you to set the shift points for all gears wherever
you want, and also let you program 2 different shifting patterns, one for everyday
driving and one for chevy stomping . I recommend that you get the aode with the
wide ratio gearing, because it gives you a different ratio at the wheels. If you
use the wide ratio in first gear you have the equivalent of a 4.10 rear gear in
first and a 3.30 to 1.00 in overdrive, with 3.55 rear gears. Again if you go to
the Baumann Engineering web site they give great details and comparisons as well as
what year models to look for. I am taking my own recommendations on the
transmission because I've torn up two AOD transmission with my 351w, everyone said
that the AOD was too weak for my motor. Braumann Engineering said the AODE is a
much better transmission and I believe it because I have one in my 94 model truck
and it has been fine. The 351w with the AOD is in a 55 F-100, you can see it on
the second page of the pictorial, it is blue.

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 10:02:22 EST
From: My59f100 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - vintage license plates

In a message dated 3/21/99 5:31:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-pre61-list-
digest ford-trucks.com writes:

>
Try Ebay.com I saw some on there, I don't remember what state though. You
can find other Ford stuff too. Try it you'll like it.
MY59F100
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 08:32:19 -0700
From: Mel
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Wheels Vintiques

A few days ago someone was asking about "Wheels Vintiques". I have
purchased two sets of wheels from these people. They are very helpful
in helping me with wheel offset and custom building a set for my effie
to get the right look. I have two different bolt patterns due to my
Volare' clip. They used International centers on the front and this
makes it possilbe to use my Ford hubcaps and beauty rims. That great
nostalgic look most of us like. Just thought you might like the input.
They are very responsive and helpful in their communications and prices
are right.
Mel
53 F100
34 5 Window
34 Roadster
70 El Camino
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:16:02 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site updates

The following updates have been made to the Ford Truck Enthusiasts
web site.

1. New pictures in the 1915-1947, 1948-1952, 1961-1966 and 1997+
pictorial sections (note, we're still behind with the pictorials
and have about 20+ more trucks to add).

2. Events guide updated.

3. New links added to links page (we still have another 10 to add).

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:31:38 -0800
From: joyce
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 302 or 351w

Billy,


This is the forth time I have tried to post you some information about
you engine selection. In my humble opinion I recomend the 302 for
modest horsepower and fuel economy. Why the recommendation? I have a
351w that is modified and it has more power than needed. I have a AOD
transmission behind the 351w and 3.55 to 1.00 gears in the 9 inch
rearend. Everyone told me that my motor was too powerful for the
AOD...but it took me two torn up transmissions to believe them. My
motor has a 280 degree 110 lobe seperation and .500 inch lift, a 750
carburater, a torker II intake, and a 9.5 compression ratio. I recomend
the 302 with a AODE transmission and 3.55 gears. WAIT A MINITUE YOU
SAY!!! THE AODE IS ELECTRONIC CONTROLLED!! Yes that is right, but
Braumann Engineering makes a electronic controll for $399 that does
wonders. It allows you to select your sift points anywhere you want
them and set two different shift patterns. One for everyday driving and
one for chevy stomping fun... The shift pattern can be changed with a
touch of a button while driving. The AODE is a much stronger
transmission than the AOD, Baumann explains the differences on the web
site very good. If you use a AODE transmission try to get a wide ratio
transmission. Why the wide ratio? Using the 3.55 to 1.00 rear gear the
wide ratio makes the low gear operate like the rearend is a 4.10 in
first gear. I encourage everyone to go to the Braumanns Engineering web
site and read their information.


Good luck Ken L.55
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 15:54:53 -0800
From: "Abram H. Stauffer"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - overdrive

Fordmen and ladies,
I found an overdrive transmission. I have several questions before I
buy it. Can anyone help me? It was found lying in the bed of the truck.
I don't know the state of its condition. (1)Would being out of the truck
effect the condition of trans? (2)Can you buy parts for the overdrive if
it needs rebuilt? It came out of a 53 F-100. The engine was gone so I am
not sure if the truck was a Flathead V-8 or a 6 cyl. I will have to go
back and see if the grille had a star or a V-8 emblem. (3)Will this
match up OK with my '54 V-8 239? (4)Will I need a different length drive
shaft? (5) Are there any other potential problems I might run into that
I haven't thought of yet? (6) What is the price for a working Overdrive
tranny? Interesting observation: the "overdrive" script on this '53 was
on the grille not on the hood.
Thanks for your anticipated help!! Abe '54 F-100
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 16:05:25 -0800
From: "Abram H. Stauffer"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - '54 gravel shield

I need some help! My body man is finally making progress on my truck (he
needs money to pay his taxes before April 15). The gravel shield (or
valance) is worse than we initially thought. My truck is a '54 and the
gravel shield is different than any other year. It has 2 holes in it for
the vertical grille bars (or teeth) to fit into. I could use a '54
grille also but he thinks he can fix one of the 2 I have. If the price
is right I may be interested in a grille. The gravel shield is a
neccessity, however. I live in north central PA.
Thanks! Abe
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 17:10:59 -0500
From: Ray or Fran Bell
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Gas Tank

I'm replacing my in-cab F-1 gas tank with an underbed tank. I've =
ordered Sacramento Vintage Ford's general application steel tank. When =
ordering I asked about a float/sending unit. The sales guy (after =
checking with tech help) told me that the float/sender unit from the =
stock tank will work. Somehow this sounds wrong to me. The new tank is =
a LOT shallower than the stock tank. I'm using the stock fuel gauge =
(now 12V.) Anybody had experience with this? Any other recommendations =
or cautions?
RAY, Fairfax VA =20

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 19:58:23 -0600
From: "Randy Selby"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 1950 f-1

I have a 1950 F-1, and would like to find info about putting a 350 chev.,
turbo 400, and a 10-bolt rear end in it. I also have a 1981 Camaro Z28 and
would like to know if I can use the IFS in my truck. Any info would be
appreciated.

Randy Selby
1950 F-1 & 1952 F-1
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 18:53:31 -0800
From: George Miller
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 1950 f-1

That's really stretching Ford Content on a Ford Performance Truck List.
Performance normally concentrates on engine and associated
mechanical/electronic parts relating to performance. Are you going to
change the tailgate and emblems on the truck to match your primary
interests?

George Miller

Randy Selby wrote:
>
> I have a 1950 F-1, and would like to find info about putting a 350 chev.,
> turbo 400, and a 10-bolt rear end in it. I also have a 1981 Camaro Z28 and
> would like to know if I can use the IFS in my truck. Any info would be
> appreciated.
>
> Randy Selby
> 1950 F-1 & 1952 F-1
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 19:37:02 -0800
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 1950 f-1

Hey, we're here to have fun folks :) This is 48 to 61 truck list. I think 1950 is in there somewhere.
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On Sun, 21 Mar 1999 18:53:31 George Miller wrote:
>That's really stretching Ford Content on a Ford Performance Truck List.
>Performance normally concentrates on engine and associated
>mechanical/electronic parts relating to performance. Are you going to
>change the tailgate and emblems on the truck to match your primary
>interests?
>
>George Miller
>
>Randy Selby wrote:
>>
>> I have a 1950 F-1, and would like to find info about putting a 350 chev.,
>> turbo 400, and a 10-bolt rear end in it. I also have a 1981 Camaro Z28 and
>> would like to know if I can use the IFS in my truck. Any info would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Randy Selby
>> 1950 F-1 & 1952 F-1
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 23:54:27 -0800
From: Mig
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 1950 f-1

Ray Cardogno wrote:
>
> Hey, we're here to have fun folks :) This is 48 to 61 truck list. I think 1950 is in there somewhere.
> --
>
> On Sun, 21 Mar 1999 18:53:31 George Miller wrote:
> >That's really stretching Ford Content on a Ford Performance Truck List.
> >Performance normally concentrates on engine and associated
> >mechanical/electronic parts relating to performance. Are you going to
> >change the tailgate and emblems on the truck to match your primary
> >interests?
> >
> >George Miller
> >
> >Randy Selby wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a 1950 F-1, and would like to find info about putting a 350 chev.,
> >> turbo 400, and a 10-bolt rear end in it. I also have a 1981 Camaro Z28 and
> >> would like to know if I can use the IFS in my truck. Any info would be
> >> appreciated.
> >>
> >> Randy Selby
> >> 1950 F-1 & 1952 F-1
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:48:49 -0800
From: MR Hay
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Valve Lifter Problem:

Ken Toop wrote, regarding Valve
Lifter Problem:

Sounds like a lifter that is collapsing, and needs replacing. I'd
change the whole set. I'm told that a cam or lifter warranty is void if
all is not renewed together; Crane requires their lifters be used with
their cams for warranty. Changing one lifter is like resoling one holey
shoe. It fixes the immediate problem, but I'll be without the pair
twice as long when the other one goes in for repair, and they'll not
match again. Mike

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 22:33:03 -0800
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Driveshaft Angle

I've heard through various sources that the proper angle for a driveshaft
is 5 degrees. As near as I can tell mine is at about 9 degrees. If I
could drop the transmission down a couple inches it'd be okay, but that's
not going to be possible (crossmember is in the way and cutting it for
clearance doesn't seem like a real hot idea). I've heard that they sell
shims for the rear end--that'd kick up the pinion a little, but how big are
the shims? They'd have to be as thick as a door stop if they were going to
do me any good. On the other hand, do I really have to be concerned about
this? If the worst that's going to happen is I wear out U joints faster
then that might be something I can live with. Could somebody who knows
more about this than me please enlighten me. Thanks.

~Dan

1950 F1 351C-2v--could be on the road again in a week and a half.
1992 Mustang --we're on speaking terms again--don't think I'll trade it in yet.....


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