pre61-list-digest Sunday, February 28 1999 Volume 03 : Number 060



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In this issue:

RE: FTE Pre61 - electrical wiring
Re: FTE Pre61 - color code
Re: FTE Pre61 - electrical wiring
FTE Pre61 - 12 Volt Ignition
FTE Pre61 - Many replies
FTE Pre61 - More on seat belts
FTE Pre61 - engine size
[none]
FTE Pre61 - part compatibility
FTE Pre61 - Re: Supernats
FTE Pre61 - Recomended Magazines
FTE Pre61 - Merc-Mail?
Re: FTE Pre61 - part compatibility

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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:01:36 -0600
From: Mike Morton
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - electrical wiring

Try Ron Francis Wire Works, 167 Keystone Rd., Chester, Pa. 19013,
800-292-1940

> -----Original Message-----
> From:PWPTRUCK1 aol.com [SMTP:PWPTRUCK1 aol.com]
> Sent:Friday, February 26, 1999 7:58 PM
> To:pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:FTE Pre61 - electrical wiring
>
> I am currently planning the re-wiring of my '52. The truck did not have a
> fuse
> box of any kind on it. I have looked at the aftermarket harness suppliers
> and
> I haven't seen any wire kits with a fuse panel on them either. I am
> converting
> my truck to 12 volt and would like to have some sort of protection, but
> havent
> seen any kits that incorporate a fuse box in with their harness. My truck
> will
> be all original and will not have a lot of power accesories such as power
> windows, big stereo, etc. but I would like to add air cond. later on. I
> have
> seen the panels you can buy and make your own harness, but I am no
> electrical
> genius. What have you guys done and is there an all in one kit that I
> haven't
> found? Any help please?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:59:28 -0800
From: "Abram H. Stauffer"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - color code

Bob and others:
The rating plate on my '54 F-100 has 'R' for the color code. Upon
checking the Rating plate codes I knew I had a problem. 'R' for '54
stands for Vermillion (Red). The problem is the fact that my truck is
Meadow Green, always has been. My grandfather bought it new and I bought
it from him. We all remember it as green. The original sales receipt
from the dealer says it is Meadow Green. Looking the truck over in nooks
and crannies I found no signs of red paint anywhere that might indcate
it was repainted. Upon looking at the color codes for '53-56 I noticed
that in '53 'R' was the code for Meadow Green and in '54 'U' was the
code for Meadow Green. Upon talking to a helpful guy from "So-Cal
Pickups" he said many times mistakes were made at the assembly plants!
Maybe I should check to see if my truck was made on a Monday morning or
Friday afternoon! Perhaps the man doing the rating plate was still using
the '53 code for Meadow Green out of habit!!
Abe '54 F-100
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:21:20 +0000
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - electrical wiring

Hi Paul,

I looked at several options before deciding on one called E-Z wire. (904)
437-1077.

Mid fifties has an original type harness, with fuse block for $165. It has no
circuit for air.

Painless wiring is popular, but the pain comes in the price. It's color coded and
does look like a good set.

The one I chose has all black wires, but they are labeled every five inches right
on the wire. If you can read you can install this set. No remembering what color
is what. Just pick up the wire and read it. A very nice set that even comes with
the GM column connectors. It's $185. for 12 circuits, and $195 for 21 circuits,
with 18 fuses. Includes flashers, fusible link, horn relay etc.

Fred HotRod '56

PWPTRUCK1 aol.com wrote:

> I am currently planning the re-wiring of my '52. The truck did not have a fuse
> box of any kind on it. I have looked at the aftermarket harness suppliers and
> I haven't seen any wire kits with a fuse panel on them either. I am converting
> my truck to 12 volt and would like to have some sort of protection, but havent
> seen any kits that incorporate a fuse box in with their harness. My truck will
> be all original and will not have a lot of power accesories such as power
> windows, big stereo, etc. but I would like to add air cond. later on. I have
> seen the panels you can buy and make your own harness, but I am no electrical
> genius. What have you guys done and is there an all in one kit that I haven't
> found? Any help please?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:15:31 -0500
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 12 Volt Ignition

I converted my truck to 12 volts a while back, and I use a Bosch Blue
coil. This is a performance oriented internally ballasted coil popular
with the air-cooled VW crowd. I've had good luck with it thus far!
Otherwise, if you want to stay with a stock look, a later Ford coil and
ballast resistor will do the job just fine, and you can find them
anywhere.
- --
Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
innaccesible part of the vehicle."

grover ford-trucks.com
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:45:28 EST
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Many replies

Fellow Effiers (is that a word)?

Soapy is finally going get the rear in place this weekend. Word to the wise:
if an "auto recycler" charges $40 to lift and remove a part you need -- PAY IT
- -- its the best $40 you'll spend, and I have the sore back, dirty clothes, and
possible spider bites to prove it.

1.) From: "Dan L. Gable" Subject: FTE Pre61 - front end
I am in the process of a frame off restoration on my 57. I just hated to cut
it up. But since I am planing to use this truck as a partial daily driver I
am starting to wonder if while it is in this state if I should brake down and
upgrade the front end... Can I have some feed back on the topic. As well if
I do decide to change it out what is an optimal upgrade, by that I mean what
would be the least destructive, a noticeable improvement, and something a
beginner without a cutting torch or welder could do? Or am I asking for the
impossible.

I know what you mean Dan. I whacked Soapy's frame off just in front of the cab
mounts. It was the hardest decision I made. I don't like fixing something if
it is not broke. But I did want disc brakes, pwr steering, and IFS; and didn't
want to spend over $3000 for it (especially on a $800 truck)! After the
comments that came later on the Volare set up, I'm glad I didn't go that
route. Of course it remains to be seen if my trimming and welding hold up
(read: borrowed welder and not-used-in-a-long-time skills)!!!!!!



2.) From: "A. D. Dodge"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Seat Belts??

Hi gang -
Has anyone installed lap / shoulder belts in their 53-56 truck? How would you
attach
the shoulder harness? Seat belts alone wouldn't prevent slamming your chest
into the steering wheel in an accident (heaven forbid).

Dusty Dodge
'55 F100

I think everyone is missing the point with belts. My 57 didn't even have
blinkers! All this lacking and the fact that 20 gallons of one of the most
flammable substances known to man just 6" from your body, safety wasn't Job #1
in the 50's. Anything we can do to upgrade this situation is great. Move the
gas tank -- upgrade the steering wheel -- install some sort of restraint, 3
pt. would be best. If we don't have the best mounting locations, live with it.
A poorly secured seatbelt (try for the best here)! is better than none. If you
want to ride with class, buy a pre72 Effie. If you want (or need) safety, buy
a post90!

3.) From: "A. D. Dodge"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Magazines??

What other magazines would y'all recommend in addition to Custom Classic
Trucks and Y-Block Magazine? Thanks much....
Dusty Dodge
'55 F100

My favorite is Classic Trucks. The other is bimonthly (and cheaper), but I can
hardly wait for a month! Gary Pratt (folio4ever aol.com) is the Ford columnist
for this and Truckin' magazine. He is also an AOL "Buddy" and has had chats
set up from time to time. Classic Auto Restorer was a waste to me -- nothing
on effies, hardly anything on Fords -- and very expensive. I have no thought
of restoring a 240Z.

4.) From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - electrical wiring

I am currently planning the rewiring of my '52. The truck did not have a fuse
box of any kind on it. I have looked at the aftermarket harness suppliers and
I haven't seen any wire kits with a fuse panel on them either. I am converting
my truck to 12 volt and would like to have some sort of protection, but havent
seen any kits that incorporate a fuse box in with their harness. My truck will
be all original and will not have a lot of power accesories such as power
windows, big stereo, etc. but I would like to add air cond. later on. I have
seen the panels you can buy and make your own harness, but I am no electrical
genius. What have you guys done and is there an all in one kit that I haven't
found? Any help please?

Thanks,
Paul

Check out Ron Francis' Wireworks (www.wire-works.com I think). They even make
a fuel injection harness for my application -- though I hope the factory
harness will hook up and save me the $600+ for that!

5.) Ken I still can't get to the chat room. What am I doing wrong, or is it
still AOL?

6.) I am still looking for a truck or at least a Ford club in the Memphis
area. If no one can help, I'll probably join the Central Arkansas group. Does
anyone else have a club affiliation that is over 100 miles from their home?

Glenn in TN
Soapy the 57 F 100
"if you don't change direction, you'll wind up where your heading!"
countdown9199.com

Sorry for the long post. I have read a lot of mail this morning and wanted to
input!
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 15:28:09 EST
From: TonyDePaul aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - More on seat belts

JRFiero wrote:
>Where are our list safely engineers?
>Let's hear from those who have installed seatbelts, including stories of
>state regulations. As far as I know in Virginia, I don't have to have
>seatbelts if the original vehicle did not come with seatbelts standard.

I believe the same is true here in Rhode Island. A state law requiring the use
of seat belts went into effect in January. Cops can't stop you for not wearing
a belt, but they can give you a $30 ticket if they stop you for something else
and find that you're not strapped in.

Incidentally, I've never been stopped in my '49 F-1, though I expected to get
some grief over having just one brake light, one windshield wiper, etc.; my
guess is, the cops figure anyone who invites scrutiny by driving such a
conspicuous vehicle is probably legal.

I've thought about installing seat belts but have been daunted by the prospect
of figuring out how to engineer a safe installation. Because the seat back
would come forward in a front-end crash I suspect you could get hurt worse by
being strapped in, especially if all you have is a lap belt. But in a roll-
over, you'd probably get ejected without a restraint of some kind. I'd rather
take my chances in the cab and not out of it.

It's a puzzle. So far I've dealt with it by driving as if my life depends on
it.

Tony
'49 F-1




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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 17:02:41 EST
From: SJablecki aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - engine size

It is me again, I have a 1951 F1 that somebody has put a 1958 straight 6 in.
The only identification I can find on the block is EBP 6015 H. .Think it is
229, Any help? Stan. Reach me direct at sjablecki aol.com
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 99 19:07:01 PST
From: "zeener"
Subject: [none]

Does anyone have any details on the F-100 nats in tenn?

When
where
etc

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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 99 20:47:22 PST
From: "zeener"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - part compatibility

Are there any parts compatible between a 48 F-1 and F-6???
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Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:02:53 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Supernats

At 07:07 PM 2/27/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Does anyone have any details on the F-100 nats in tenn?
>
>When
>where
>etc
>

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 00:15:58 -0600
From: "MARK AMES"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Recomended Magazines

One of my favorite magazines about trucks is "This old truck" Check out =
their website www.antiquepower.com They have a link to their magazine =
"This old Truck" The only bad thing I can saw about this magazine is that =
there only 6 issues a year, subscribers get to place free adds in their =
classifieds. This magazine is dedicated more to original trucks. I like =
it because they have stories on other makes of trucks than the "big =
three".=20

"56Merc"

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 00:26:26 -0600
From: "MARK AMES"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Merc-Mail?

I would be interested in where the "Merc mail" originates from ? I would =
be interested in receiveing this mail.=20
"56Merc"

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 06:43:00 -0000
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - part compatibility

cab, Grille, doors,seat, gas cap.
- --

On Sat, 27 Feb 99 20:47:22 P zeener wrote:
>Are there any parts compatible between a 48 F-1 and F-6???
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