pre61-list-digest Wednesday, February 24 1999 Volume 03 : Number 054



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - 56 to 54 conversion
Re: FTE Pre61 - Help?
Re: FTE Pre61 - Help?
FTE Pre61 - gear box
FTE Pre61 - 53-56 Rear bumper brackets
RE: FTE Pre61 - '55 F-100 w/ big block?
Re: FTE Pre61 - Help?
Re: FTE Pre61 - Help?
Re: FTE Pre61 - 53-56 Rear bumper brackets
FTE Pre61 - Bed Wood Sealer
FTE Pre61 - New Subscriber
FTE Pre61 - tranny problems
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: F-2 thru F-6 fenders
Re: FTE Pre61 - Help?
Re: FTE Pre61 - F-2 fender same as F-6?
Re: FTE Pre61 - Bed Wood Sealer

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 02:11:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Oldtrukman webtv.net (R. Pietsch)
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 56 to 54 conversion

Hi Conor.
I have been contemplating a stretch job on my '56 for some time
now. If you are going to get rid of the frame that you are not going to
use, I might be interested in getting about a two foot section of the
rails from about where the rear cab mounts are located.



Rix56 'The Rat'

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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:57:05 -0500
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Help?

> Second, I have been searching for a ford (48-56..I'm not picky) for
> several months now with no luck. I have been searching with trader-online
> and several of the trader magazines along with driving down the country
> roads and looking. Yet every time I find something intersting it is
> already sold.
>
> I recently read an article in Petersons that these trucks were readily
> available and easy to find. It also stated that a good project truck
> should run about $500 and a running truck for about $1500.
> This magazine stated that these trucks could be purchased at the F-100
> Super National Swap meet in good shape in this price range.
> I just hold off and search the mass of
> available trucks in Tenessee or is it all a bluff?
>
> Anybody got a good project truck for sale?????

It never fails to amaze me how the "trade" magazines manage to
rebuild motors for 5 or $600, and still make 350 horsepower, can drop in
a 4 link 9" rear from Pete Williams in an afternoon for pocket change,
and find roadworthy vehicles for $1500 bucks that just need a wax job.
Yes, the 48 up trucks can be found for $500, but not ready to drive
unless you are darn lucky. Think about it.. what would you ask for one.
As for trucks at a national swap meet like the F-100 nationals, there
you are surrounded by thousands of people, just dying to own a F
series..what's your price now? A little higher than back home I'll bet.
There is a vehicle out there somewhere that suits you, that fits
your talents and abilities. You've got to decide what you want, how much
you can pay and how much you can do in overhaul. It's probably within 25
miles of you too, but maybe the best deal is a big swap meet, just don't
expect a bargain at on unless you like pork.
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:57:17 -0500
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Help?

> Second, I have been searching for a ford (48-56..I'm not picky) for
> several months now with no luck. I have been searching with trader-online
> and several of the trader magazines along with driving down the country
> roads and looking. Yet every time I find something intersting it is
> already sold.
>
> I recently read an article in Petersons that these trucks were readily
> available and easy to find. It also stated that a good project truck
> should run about $500 and a running truck for about $1500.
> This magazine stated that these trucks could be purchased at the F-100
> Super National Swap meet in good shape in this price range.
> I just hold off and search the mass of
> available trucks in Tenessee or is it all a bluff?
>
> Anybody got a good project truck for sale?????

It never fails to amaze me how the "trade" magazines manage to
rebuild motors for 5 or $600, and still make 350 horsepower, can drop in
a 4 link 9" rear from Pete Williams in an afternoon for pocket change,
and find roadworthy vehicles for $1500 bucks that just need a wax job.
Yes, the 48 up trucks can be found for $500, but not ready to drive
unless you are darn lucky. Think about it.. what would you ask for one.
As for trucks at a national swap meet like the F-100 nationals, there
you are surrounded by thousands of people, just dying to own a F
series..what's your price now? A little higher than back home I'll bet.
There is a vehicle out there somewhere that suits you, that fits
your talents and abilities. You've got to decide what you want, how much
you can pay and how much you can do in overhaul. It's probably within 25
miles of you too, but maybe the best deal is a big swap meet, just don't
expect a bargain at on unless you like pork.
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:16:18 -0700
From: Kemp Farnsworth
Subject: FTE Pre61 - gear box

Howdy All,
On a '58 F-100, can the steering gear box be adjusted. The reason I
ask is that my truck has about a half a steering wheel of play in it.
Because of this I get pulled over regularly. Also, I 've got a buddy
with a '64 chevy that can be adjusted...just wondering if my truck was
the same.

thank you
seeya
ref
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:19:36 -0800
From: Mark Wilson
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 53-56 Rear bumper brackets

> Does anybody know of a source for the custom
> "hugger" rear bumper brackets for 53-56?
> You know - the kind that don't make it stick
> out and hang down so far.
>
> Also, I broke off one of those studs that hold
> on the rear fenders. Where can I get a replacement
> that will match all the rest? They look like
> little buttons from the inside of the bed.
>
> Thanks,
> Wilson
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:01:09 -0500
From: "Mcat"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - '55 F-100 w/ big block?

Mike, Yes it can be done. I own a 56 with a 427 auto, 9in rear, power
asst steering, and 4wheel disc brakes. The rear sports 3.73 gears and on a
trip averages 12-13mpg, which is darn good for dual quads. The front does
sit low but will support it, I made mounts using 2" sq tubing and mustang
rubber engine mounts. The rear trans mount is 3" sq tubing and bolts under
the frame with thru bolts. I have 4' ladder bars under the rear with stock
leafs and have no trouble putting 200 lb tongue wt on a reese hitch. It will
haul with no problem, but upgrading the brakes is a must. The origanals will
fade with a heavy load. The front axle must be shimed for correct castor
alignment. The next step may be a gearvendors od to drop rpm down, and
Imight put in 3.25 gears. If you need more info feel free to contact me. A
note to 47 Fred, I own 5-427s and no there not for sale. Garry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of MR Hay
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 4:08 PM
> To: Trucks BBS, Old Ford
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - '55 F-100 w/ big block?
>
>
> I'd sure like any and all input from you experts on the pros and cons
> of dropping a 427 w/automatic (versus a 351) in my rejuvenated project.
> I'd like to turn low R's on the highway, but like the idea of the
> effortless pull from the big block. I think I can go to a low 3 rear
> end versus a high 3 to pull my 3500+# boat. Does the stock front end
> (w/ PS added) support a BB okay, or are any other issues aggravated with
> a BB? The stock 239 is soon history, despite the un-run overhaul to
> .040 over. It's pretty, but too small for me. I'm in So. Orange
> County. Any interested in a good deal on this engine? Thanks in
> advance. Mike
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:48:25 -0500
From: "Sam Fugate"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Help?

47 Fred is right! finding a good truck that suits your needs is probably
right in your area. I have one for sale and it is only 10 miles from Bath
county! 1951 F1 e-mail me fugates kih.net
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From: zeener
To: Pre 61 list
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:09 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Help?


> I have a couple of questions for all you well educated Effie fans:
>
>First, When is the F-100 super Nationals,
>
>
>Second, I have been searching for a ford (48-56..I'm not picky) for
>several months now with no luck. I have been searching with trader-online
>and several of the trader magazines along with driving down the country
>roads and looking. Yet every time I find something intersting it is
>already sold.
>
> I recently read an article in Petersons that these trucks were readily
>available and easy to find. It also stated that a good project truck
>should run about $500 and a running truck for about $1500. I think these
>figures are way low because everything I happen to find is nothing but a
>cut-up piece of rust with a price around 2-3 thousand dollars.
> This magazine stated that these trucks could be purchased at the F-100
>Super National Swap meet in good shape in this price range. Has anyone
>attended previously that could confirm this?
> I would be happy to pay much more than $500 dollars, but I want something
>stock that is fixable. Should I just hold off and search the mass of
>available trucks in Tenessee or is it all a bluff?
>
>Anybody got a good project truck for sale?????
>
>Thanks for any info!!
>
>Dennis
>Owingsville, KY
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:36:44 -0700
From: "Joe Michels"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Help?

Dennis-- There was a 52 F1 here in Albuquerque for $2950 that was in real
good shape-- it needed work, however, was not a bad running vehicle at all.
You can certainly find them for the prices that you listed. I know where
there is a project truck with a supposedly running engine/trannyu/rear end
for $650 here in Albuqueurque. My point is that you can find them, keep
looking.

Joebob
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From: zeener
To: Pre 61 list
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 9:02 PM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Help?


> I have a couple of questions for all you well educated Effie fans:
>
>First, When is the F-100 super Nationals,
>
>
>Second, I have been searching for a ford (48-56..I'm not picky) for
>several months now with no luck. I have been searching with trader-online
>and several of the trader magazines along with driving down the country
>roads and looking. Yet every time I find something intersting it is
>already sold.
>
> I recently read an article in Petersons that these trucks were readily
>available and easy to find. It also stated that a good project truck
>should run about $500 and a running truck for about $1500. I think these
>figures are way low because everything I happen to find is nothing but a
>cut-up piece of rust with a price around 2-3 thousand dollars.
> This magazine stated that these trucks could be purchased at the F-100
>Super National Swap meet in good shape in this price range. Has anyone
>attended previously that could confirm this?
> I would be happy to pay much more than $500 dollars, but I want something
>stock that is fixable. Should I just hold off and search the mass of
>available trucks in Tenessee or is it all a bluff?
>
>Anybody got a good project truck for sale?????
>
>Thanks for any info!!
>
>Dennis
>Owingsville, KY
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:02:36 -0800
From: "Eldon Joachims"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 53-56 Rear bumper brackets

Just about any supplier of effie parts has what you are looking for..
Mid-Fifteys.Dan Carpenter,ect Look in the ad section of Classic Trucks
for more suppliers.
JOE 55 F-100

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> From: Mark Wilson
> To: 'pre61-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - 53-56 Rear bumper brackets
> Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 10:19 AM
>
>
> > Does anybody know of a source for the custom
> > "hugger" rear bumper brackets for 53-56?
> > You know - the kind that don't make it stick
> > out and hang down so far.
> >
> > Also, I broke off one of those studs that hold
> > on the rear fenders. Where can I get a replacement
> > that will match all the rest? They look like
> > little buttons from the inside of the bed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wilson
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:35:24 -0700
From: "Joe Michels"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Bed Wood Sealer

What is the proper sealer to use on the bed wood? I am at the point of
putting the bed together and have got the wood ready to go? What should I
go and buy-- how many coats should I put on? Any secrets on this? I have
never done this, however, does not appear to be rocket science!!!!!!!

Joebob
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:26:00 -0600
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - New Subscriber

Howdy!
Is it OK for an outsider to join this forum and participate in the
conversation? My dad's Christmas visit rekindled my burnin' desire
(dormant since the 70's) for a '56 Effie. The great thing about e-lists
is the wealth of collective knowledge of the entire group. I need to get
up to speed before forking out the $$$$.
Thanks,
Brett
'56 Nomad
'59 Lesabre convert
'64 Sport Wagon
'65 Chevy II
'71 Jeepster
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:41:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott
Subject: FTE Pre61 - tranny problems

Forwarded for a friend:
"I have a '52 f-1 that I've dropped a MustangII IFS kit into. I have
a 5.0 302 with a t-5 out of an 88 Mustang. Also having issues with the
t-5 shifter ending up way back in the floor (almost under the seat).
I wanted to maintain as much of the interior feel as possible, so at
this point I'm still trying to make the manual option work.
- -Question 2: Does just bending the shifter do the trick, or will
other bolt up tranny's out of a bronco, etc bring the shifter forward
in the cab? Or is there another option since I don't know if I like
the idea of having a flamingo legged shifter in the middle of the
cab..?"
If anyone could help me out with this it would be great.
Scott
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 04:48:14 -0000
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: F-2 thru F-6 fenders

I'm sorry if I missed it on another post, but what place is it that has these parts?
- --

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:00:57 Robert Jones wrote:
>I just found this site and am wondering if anyone has ordered from this
>place. They carry patch panels for the larger trucks along with ones for
>the F-1s. Lately there has been a few more owners of the larger trucks
>asking for parts sources. I know from experience they are hard to find.
>
> Bob Jones
> BobJ49F2 =20
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 99 00:03:31 PST
From: "zeener"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Help?

> Yes, the 48 up trucks can be found for $500, but not ready to drive
> unless you are darn lucky. Think about it.. what would you ask for one.

I once talked to a guy on the phone who said he had an all original 53 with
an extra parts truck for $1000, I went to look at it and was very surprised
to find it had a mangled sunroof hole, tilt front end, a chopped top, some
type of front clip, and shaved door handles. He was shocked to find out
that the truck really didn't come that way!!! :)

It's amazing what some people think there stuff is worth! I was talking
about a non-running truck for $500, which in good condition is still worth
more than $500.


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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 05:37:59 -0000
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - F-2 fender same as F-6?

Does anyone know absolute sure that f-2,3,5,and 6 fenders are exactly the same? I am interested in front lower repair panels. A dealer lists them for F-2's. Will they fit my F-6? I'm kinda new to the 48 style trucks. Gonna have to change my chat handle from 53-56 :)

Ray C


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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:36:04 -0800
From: "Eldon Joachims"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Bed Wood Sealer

just use the same clear coat you used on your truck. goes on easily and
looks good.

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> From: Joe Michels
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Bed Wood Sealer
> Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 6:35 PM
>
>
> What is the proper sealer to use on the bed wood? I am at the point of
> putting the bed together and have got the wood ready to go? What should....


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