pre61-list-digest Friday, February 19 1999 Volume 03 : Number 049



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Pigeon Forge
FTE Pre61 - 55 chassis F/S & 49 needs
Re: FTE Pre61 - 351w
FTE Pre61 - 52 Radiator location
Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Radiator location
Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Radiator location
Re: FTE Pre61 - SEAT HIGHT
FTE Pre61 - Re: 1957 Defroster ducts
Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Radiator location
Re: FTE Pre61 - True Blue/True Gold
RE: FTE Pre61 - 351w
Re: FTE Pre61 - True Blue/True Gold

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:38:10 -0500
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Pigeon Forge

Ray wrote: "Am thinking about the show in May .. does anyone recommend
an adjacent campground? My F-1s maybe 60% "smoothie" and 40%
"in-progress." If I take it will I be out of place among all the
"show-bees?"

Ray, I'm driving old Grover down to park amongst the show trucks rough
or not! I may wash my truck before the show, though. :-) By the way, I
can't suggest a good campground (There are a LOT of them around there)
but you might give Days Inn a call!
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Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
innaccesible part of the vehicle."

grover ford-trucks.com
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:05:47 -0500
From: "Sheldon Rier"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 55 chassis F/S & 49 needs

Hi All

have a 55 chassis with OHV v-8 for sale - the motor has 0 miles on a full
rebuild & the rest of it has been completely gone over mechanically, blasted
& painted - the original motor for the truck is a good strong runner & comes
with it along with other spares - $3000 obo

wanted - steering wheel & 2 running board brackets for a friends 49 stretch
project

Thanks!!!
Sheldon

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:45:34 -0500
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 351w

"Miguel....." wrote:
>
> I was offered a Ford 351W engine, can anyone tell me a little bit about this
> engine, how much should I pay? parts? ect. thank you for all your help.

The 351W is one of my more favorite engines, but not easy to come
by real cheap, which is to say free. It's basically a big 302, with
approximatly an 1.3" taller block. cylinder heads interchange (on late
models only) with 302's. Early, up to '73, 351's use a bigger valve set
and a different water passage. Transmissions from 300-6, 302 and 351C
fit the engine. Engine mounts are in the same location as a 302. If
needed, you can get a rear sump pan from old 351 crown vic cop cars, or
thru Ford motorsports. Cams, timing cover, waterpump and most front
accessories interchange with 302's. 302 HO and 351W have the same
firing order, other 302's are different due to the cam used. Intake
manifold, distributor and oil pan are unique to the 351. Pistons, rods
and crankshaft are unique also.

I can find 351's for sale around the Northeast for $100 to $500. I
got one from a '78 LDT for $50, it had a good C-4 auto in the bargain,
then I found $23 in change in the ash tray.

47 Fred
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:37:22 -0700
From: Randall Colgan
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 52 Radiator location

I've removed the flathead V-8 from my 52 F1 to make room for a 302/C4. In
placing the 302, I found that I had to relocate the radiator mount to the
front holes on the cross member to allow me enough room. The mount was
originally in the rear holes on the cross member. Does anyone know if I
will have problems lining up the fenders and inner pans?

Any advise will be appreciated.
Randall Colgan
52 F-1
http://www.ford-trucks.com/trueblue
St. Albert, Alberta, Canada
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:34:35 -0500
From: "Sam Fugate"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Radiator location

Yes you will, I have a 1951 F1 that I am restoring. The inner fenders bolt
up to the radiator mount. (at least it does on mine).
Sam in Mt. Sterling, KY.
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From: Randall Colgan
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 10:51 AM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 52 Radiator location


>I've removed the flathead V-8 from my 52 F1 to make room for a 302/C4. In
>placing the 302, I found that I had to relocate the radiator mount to the
>front holes on the cross member to allow me enough room. The mount was
>originally in the rear holes on the cross member. Does anyone know if I
>will have problems lining up the fenders and inner pans?
>
>Any advise will be appreciated.
>Randall Colgan
>52 F-1
> http://www.ford-trucks.com/trueblue
>St. Albert, Alberta, Canada
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:13:21 -0500
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Radiator location

Randall Colgan wrote:
>
> I've removed the flathead V-8 from my 52 F1 to make room for a 302/C4. In
> placing the 302, I found that I had to relocate the radiator mount to the
> front holes on the cross member to allow me enough room. The mount was
> originally in the rear holes on the cross member. Does anyone know if I
> will have problems lining up the fenders and inner pans?
>
I encountered the same problem with my '47, and found that there are
alternative sets of holes for the radiator mount mount in the frame
crossmenber, in the inner fenders, and the inner fender brace brackets.
The holes are so the factory can conveniently install either a 6 or V8
in the same hole. On the '47 there is a cover in front of the radiator
which also acts as a hood latch. This cover is 3" shorter in a 6 to
match the forward relocation of the radiator. Check for the presence of
the holes in the inner fenders, if no holes, get out the torches??
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:45:03 -0800
From: "cc"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - SEAT HIGHT

On my 56 F-100 that is original the high point of the seat is 17" high from
the floor and the bottom of the steering wheel is about 7" directly above
the seat,but the seat is slanting downward at that point. It looks as the
bottom of the steering wheel is about 21" high from the floor.
Hope that helps.
David
56 longbed


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From: Tony Jackson
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 4:31 AM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - SEAT HIGHT


>MY 56 CAME WITHOUT A SEAT AND STEERING COLUMN, I HAVE NO CHANCE OF
MEASURING
>ONE FROM AN OTHER TRUCK AS THE EARLY F100S ARE AS HENS TEETH HERE IN
>AUSTRALIA AND EVEN WORSE WERE I AM IN WEST AUS. I WAS HOPING THAT SOMEONE
>COULD MEASURE THE HEIGHT OF THE FRONT OF THE SEAT TO THE FLOOR AND THE
>HEIGHT OF THE CENTER OF THE STEERING WHEEL TO THE SEAT. AND LET ME KNOW
>PLEASE.
> TJ
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:03:31 EST
From: IRLobuck aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 1957 Defroster ducts

Believe it or not I found some good ones in a 57 wrecker in a junk yard. They
are very fragile though, even when in good shape. Sacramento Vintage Ford
916-489-3444
has fiberglass ones for 50 bucks, which is the way to go.
Good luck,
LOBUCK
57 Fun100
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:38:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 52 Radiator location

Everything should line up. The front holes were just for the straight
6 because it was longer than the flat 8. We had to do this on our 52
because of the Ch*vy 350.
Scott

- ---Randall Colgan wrote:
>
> I've removed the flathead V-8 from my 52 F1 to make room for a
302/C4. In
> placing the 302, I found that I had to relocate the radiator mount
to the
> front holes on the cross member to allow me enough room. The mount
was
> originally in the rear holes on the cross member. Does anyone know
if I
> will have problems lining up the fenders and inner pans?
>
> Any advise will be appreciated.
> Randall Colgan
> 52 F-1
> http://www.ford-trucks.com/trueblue
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:00:32 EST
From: "James H. Boyd"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - True Blue/True Gold

** Reply to note from "Ray Cardogno" Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:18:29 -0000
RTFM!

Read
The
Fine (or choose the appropriate cuss word :->)
Manual!

Jay Boyd
53 Panel Flathead Hotrod


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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:25:20 -0500
From: "Miguel....."
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - 351w

I called the guy and he told me he is asking $ 50.
As far as I know it came in LTD Fords, In what other cars did it came in?
does any of you have one of these engines?
thanks for all your help

Miguel..

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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 05:44:23 -0000
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - True Blue/True Gold

No Fine Way ?!
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On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:00:32 James H. Boyd wrote:
>** Reply to note from "Ray Cardogno" Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:18:29 -0000
>RTFM!
>
>Read
>The
>Fine (or choose the appropriate cuss word :->)
>Manual!
>
>Jay Boyd
>53 Panel Flathead Hotrod
>
>
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