pre61-list-digest Friday, January 29 1999 Volume 03 : Number 027



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Re: Another fender question
FTE Pre61 - Gas Gauge--again and more
FTE Pre61 - fender patches
FTE Pre61 - 2 responses to sheetmetal repairs
Re: FTE Pre61 - 2 responses to sheetmetal repairs
Re: FTE Pre61 - 53 & up fenders

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:11:27 -0600
From: "Robert Jones"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Another fender question

The fiber glass repair will not be as strong as a welded in metal patch and
most likely won't last as long. The area where there might be stress or
vibration will not last at all. If you do weld a metal patch or use a fiber
glass patch make sure you cut all of the rust out or the rust will continue
to grow.

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 06:35:32 -0700
From: Ken Toop
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Gas Gauge--again and more

Thanks for the gas gauge info, John. I do get the pulsing current with the
VOM. That's what stumped me. Nice to know it's normal. Now for two new
questions. How do I wire an oil gauge sender into my '57? Does it tap
current off the instrument cluster, or does it take a hot wire from the
switch? Last question. The engine I installed came with an electric
choke. How do I hook that up? Are there any great manuals out there to
use? (Whoops, third question.) So far I have had pretty good luck with
"Fix Your Ford," published in 1964.

'57 F-100 5.0 l. 4v T5 (Un-named, but not unmentioned.)


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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:41:56 -0500
From: "Sheldon Rier"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - fender patches

Hi
there is a place that makes patch panels for F1fenders in Oklahoma I think -
they advertise in the truck mags & have the info at home
they should work with slight mods to your larger wheel opening

both our51's had same prob & the bodyman made patches that worked great

Carpenter reproductions also makes patch panels for fenders - they seemed
really expensive

I've used fiberglas too but like steel much better

good luck
Sheldon Rier
rier golden.net

te: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:06:12 EST
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - another fender question

I also have a question about fender repair to anyone that can help.
My '52 F-3 fenders are rusted through at the front side just above where
the
lower front extensions bolt on. I have no welding or metalworking
experience,
so i am concidering using a fiberglass mat and jel to fill the hole.

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:19:44 -0500
From: eric
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 2 responses to sheetmetal repairs

Jason wrote:
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - When is a fender beyond repair?
> When should I stop trying to fix and patch and start to think about
> buying new. I think Fenders run about $350 to $400 a piece for new
> ones. This is my first attempt at metal work. I wanted to know if
> there were any general rules that were followed or tips that might help
> me.

Hey Jason,
I don't think there's any 'textbook formula' to answer you question, so
I'll add my $.02 here. If you've effectively repaired your fender,then
you've just saved yourself $350-400 bucks - sounds like a bargin to me
as long as your time is less valuable than this amount of money. I would
like to add that I many times spend more of my time on a repair for my
'61 Unibody (and my other projects too) than it costs for outright
replacement 'cuz it's fun and it's my hobby. With this being said (and
done many times) I have gotten pretty good with my techniques and this
on-the-job-training is very valuable to me. I also use the money I save
on these projects to further 'invest' in some good tools, MIG welder,
ect which in turn makes subsequent jobs easier and more fun. It sounds
like you may be a do-it-yourselfer, so I say keep at it! ;-) As long
as we're still having fun, right?!

Paul wrote:
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - another fender question
> I also have a question about fender repair to anyone that can help.
> My '52 F-3 fenders are rusted through at the front side just above where the
> lower front extensions bolt on. I also would like to
> use fiberglass to reconstruct the lower rear area where the running boards
> bolt up. Any suggestions or pointers on doing this would be helpful.

Paul, I'm not intimately knowledgeable with the fenders on a '52, but I
would be concerned with using fiberglass for areas that see the kind of
stress that you will likely subject these to when stepping on the
running boards, vibrations, etc. Being a hands-on-guy myself, I'd
suggest hooking up with someone who could teach you a little bit about
welding these areas. I think a welded repair in the areas you mention
would be a much better and more permanent fix.

Hope this helps,
Eric 'Stitch'

"Happy Days"
1961 F100 Unibody w/'59 292 Y-block
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:35:40 -0800
From: "Jason Piccola"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 2 responses to sheetmetal repairs

Eric,

After I posted that message, that night i went into my shop and patched the areas
that i was having trouble with. I patch the areas with little problems. I am
getting better with my welding and patch fitting (which I find is 85% of the
work). I have just purchased a MIG conversion kit for my welder which really help
in welding sheet metal. I think I just need more practice. These fenders are in
good shape. The previous owner riveted metal patch panels on top of the rusted out
areas. I was told that riveting patch panels is fine to hold the panel in place
until welding is completed. I want this restoration to be done correctly so I am
taking the time to do it right.

Thanks for the advice.
Jason Piccola

eric wrote:

> Jason wrote:
> > Subject: FTE Pre61 - When is a fender beyond repair?
> > When should I stop trying to fix and patch and start to think about
> > buying new. I think Fenders run about $350 to $400 a piece for new
> > ones. This is my first attempt at metal work. I wanted to know if
> > there were any general rules that were followed or tips that might help
> > me.
>
> Hey Jason,
> I don't think there's any 'textbook formula' to answer you question, so
> I'll add my $.02 here. If you've effectively repaired your fender,then
> you've just saved yourself $350-400 bucks - sounds like a bargin to me
> as long as your time is less valuable than this amount of money. I would
> like to add that I many times spend more of my time on a repair for my
> '61 Unibody (and my other projects too) than it costs for outright
> replacement 'cuz it's fun and it's my hobby. With this being said (and
> done many times) I have gotten pretty good with my techniques and this
> on-the-job-training is very valuable to me. I also use the money I save
> on these projects to further 'invest' in some good tools, MIG welder,
> ect which in turn makes subsequent jobs easier and more fun. It sounds
> like you may be a do-it-yourselfer, so I say keep at it! ;-) As long
> as we're still having fun, right?!
>
> Paul wrote:
> > Subject: FTE Pre61 - another fender question
> > I also have a question about fender repair to anyone that can help.
> > My '52 F-3 fenders are rusted through at the front side just above where the
> > lower front extensions bolt on. I also would like to
> > use fiberglass to reconstruct the lower rear area where the running boards
> > bolt up. Any suggestions or pointers on doing this would be helpful.
>
> Paul, I'm not intimately knowledgeable with the fenders on a '52, but I
> would be concerned with using fiberglass for areas that see the kind of
> stress that you will likely subject these to when stepping on the
> running boards, vibrations, etc. Being a hands-on-guy myself, I'd
> suggest hooking up with someone who could teach you a little bit about
> welding these areas. I think a welded repair in the areas you mention
> would be a much better and more permanent fix.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Eric 'Stitch'
>
> "Happy Days"
> 1961 F100 Unibody w/'59 292 Y-block
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:07:39 EST
From: Ron2Vettes aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 53 & up fenders

I have a 55 with good (not great) fenders. Where are you located?
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