pre61-list-digest Friday, June 4 1999 Volume 03 : Number 158



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Tires & wheels
RE: FTE Pre61 - Tires & wheels
Re: FTE Pre61 - flathead intake
FTE Pre61 - ??simple questions??
FTE Pre61 - 4bbl flattie
FTE Pre61 - re: fender patch panels
Re: FTE Pre61 - re: fender patch panels
FTE Pre61 - Re: Armrests
Re: FTE Pre61 - re: fender patch panels
Re: FTE Pre61 - 4bbl flattie
FTE Pre61 - Tire size

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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 05:16:42 -0500
From: Mike Garoppo
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tires & wheels

Mark,
The standard tire and wheel for 59 was 6.70 X 15 4pr. and the options were,
6.70 X 15 6pr.
7.10 X 15 6pr.
6.50 X 16 6pr.
7 X 17.5 6pr
This was taken from an 1959 FORD TRUCK sales brochure. These sizes were for the
F-100!

Fordman


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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 05:23:50 -0500
From: "mark"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Tires & wheels

appreciate that.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Mike Garoppo
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 5:17 AM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tires & wheels
>
>
> Mark,
> The standard tire and wheel for 59 was 6.70 X 15 4pr. and the
> options were,
> 6.70 X 15 6pr.
> 7.10 X 15 6pr.
> 6.50 X 16 6pr.
> 7 X 17.5 6pr
> This was taken from an 1959 FORD TRUCK sales brochure. These
> sizes were for the
> F-100!
>
> Fordman
>
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 06:29:25 -0400
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - flathead intake

At 10:53 PM 6/2/1999 -0400, Sheldon Rier wrote:
>Hi All
>
>isn't the point of a multi carb intake to reduce the difference in the
>lengths of the intake manifold runners?? I was reading a flathead book & it
>went on about how the short runners to the middle cylinders and long runners
>to the ends caused uneven fuel distribution - maybe the Patrrick manifold
>has similar length runners - let us know how the 4v setup works

While that's one aspect of multiple carbs, a single stock carb will limit
the fuel and air delivery to the engine. I have a dual intake manifold that
does not allow the intake manifold runners to be completely symmetrical in
length, but does allow a generator (or alternator) to be mounted in the
stock location. The old books say that manifolds where these were symmetric
gave another 10-15 peak horsepower.

The usual problems with running multiple carburetors are making them idle
well at low air flow per carb and in dealing with two or three power valves
at once making the mixture too rich. Three carbs and progressive linkage
helps the first problem some and fiddling with the power valves can help
the second.

In comparison and four barrel carb with either vacuum or mechanical
secondaries is easier to set up to deliver more gas and air at high
throttle, idle well and not add too much gas at WOT when any power valves open.

Tom Teixeira'35 pickuphttp://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html

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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 08:51:13 +0100
From: Chris Griffin
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ??simple questions??

Hello Ford-Truckers,

Now that summer is here...(and being a school teacher)... I have some more
time to work on our 52 F-1. There are two things I want to work on soon as I
use this for a utility truck (read: trash hauler etc.). Carburetor and
lights. ( both work but only marginally!
First the carb. This is a 70's 302 2V.... pretty standard.(all Ford)...runs
pretty well when warm, but when it sits for more than a day or two, I have
to crank and crank and pump the pedal about 30 or 40 times to get the gas
going.Then it's fine. Question....Do I need to rebuild/ replace the whole
carb, or is there some stupid little valve or seal that'll keep the gas from
backtracking back to the tank?...( I assume that's what's happening) (only
note...the fuel pump and the rubber hose between the line and the pump
always seem to have a little gassy residue on them... not alot ... or not
what seems like enough to be draining the line each time)
Second... wimpy headlights that dim and brighten along with engine revs.
.... Is this a goofy regulator or a normal old Ford condition? I've got the
relays and fuses to rewire the lights as per the tech article at the FTE
site but I realized that he wrote that for a 70's truck not a 52. Should the
same process work on the 52? (I'm going to rewire the whole truck anyway)
thanks to you all!!!
Chris Griffin
52-F1 "Black Bomb"
cgriffin netins.net
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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:59:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 4bbl flattie

>>make is changing the intake and carb.
Patricks antiques has an intake which allows a
4-barrell installation. Most others allow for two or>>

I see a coupe running around Sacramento and at a local burger joint
gathering all the time. He has a Holley 600 vac secondary mounted
backwards on his motor. It starts and idles very nice. Don't know
what kind of intake it has on it. GM 1 wire alternator too. If I meet
the guy I will ask him how difficult it was. Should see the car
tonight, I'll let ya'll know.

Shane
55 F100 5.0
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 12:23:46 -0400
From: Abe Stauffer
Subject: FTE Pre61 - re: fender patch panels

Jason wrote:
>Has anyone seen patch panels for a '55 outside fenders? I have only
>seen panels for earlier and later models. Any ideas.

>Jason Piccola
>55' Ford F-250
Jason and others,
I know of no 53-56 F-100 parts suppliers that reproduce front fender
patches. A good body man might be able to fabricate a patch, unless it
would include that ridge at the wheel well. Here's an idea I've thought
of but I don't know of any one that has done it: Could you cut a patch
out of another fender that is unusable but is solid for the patch you
need?
Has anyone out there done this and theoretically would it work? I have
a left front fender that I couldn't use but it is in my garage loft in
case I ever needed it for patches. I would sell it cheap, cheaper than a
patch panel (if they made them.)
Abe '54 F-100
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 19:09:30 -0400
From: "Jason Piccola"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - re: fender patch panels

Abe,

I got some information on 53' - 56' fender patch panels. The name of the place is
called Hot Rods
2197 Granada Drive
Beavercreek, OH
1-800-236-0046 (ask for Rod)
(Thanks for the info from Jeff Watts)

He has a patch panel for the top front. Ready for the price: $125.00 per panel!
I think I am going to look for a damaged fender. Does anyone know if the F250
fender is a different size than the F100 fender?

Thanks Abe

Jason Piccola
55' F-250

Abe Stauffer wrote:

> Jason wrote:
> >Has anyone seen patch panels for a '55 outside fenders? I have only
> >seen panels for earlier and later models. Any ideas.
>
> >Jason Piccola
> >55' Ford F-250
> Jason and others,
> I know of no 53-56 F-100 parts suppliers that reproduce front fender
> patches. A good body man might be able to fabricate a patch, unless it
> would include that ridge at the wheel well. Here's an idea I've thought
> of but I don't know of any one that has done it: Could you cut a patch
> out of another fender that is unusable but is solid for the patch you
> need?
> Has anyone out there done this and theoretically would it work? I have
> a left front fender that I couldn't use but it is in my garage loft in
> case I ever needed it for patches. I would sell it cheap, cheaper than a
> patch panel (if they made them.)
> Abe '54 F-100
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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:20:38 EDT
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Armrests

Tried to send this mail below to Stan (Sjablecki aol.com), but AOL doesn't
recognise the address. Stan, you still around? Subject is armrests for
'51/52 F1.

In a message dated 4/20/1999 10:52:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SJablecki
writes:

> They cost 60 a pair new. I figure if I can get a used pair for 30.00 it
> would be worth it. I only need the one for the left door if it is
available.
> Thanks for looking for me. I appreciate it. I live in California and will
> send you the money anytime you wish. Stan
Stan -
Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier. The only armrests I saw at
Spring Carlisle were new at Bob Carpenter, $50 uncovered. I'm going to the
All Ford show at Carlisle tomorrow - want me to look some more?
Jonas
'51 F1R1
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 22:46:11 -0400
From: alan akerstrom
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - re: fender patch panels

Abe Stauffer wrote:

> Jason and others,
I have
> a left front fender that I couldn't use but it is in my garage loft in
> case I ever needed it for patches. I would sell it cheap, cheaper than a
> patch panel (if they made them.)
> Abe '54 F-100
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Abe,

How decent is your extra left front fender, and how close are you to
Pottstown/Spring City, PA?

Alan Akerstrom
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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:17:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dennis Moody
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 4bbl flattie

>If I meet
> the guy I will ask him how difficult it was. Should
> see the car
> tonight, I'll let ya'll know.

I would apprecite that, thanks.

Dennis
'51 F-1
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:57:17 EDT
From: My59f100 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tire size

In a message dated 6/3/99 4:19:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


for
my 1959 F100?
my shop and/or owners manuals seem to be lacking this information.
>>
Wheel 15x6 tire size 6.70x15LT but they don't make the LT anymore at least
that is what I was told by a few of the major antique tire guys. So go....

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