pre61-list-digest Tuesday, May 18 1999 Volume 03 : Number 141

Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1948 - 1948 truck and vans
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FTE Pre61 - High Powered 57-60s
FTE Pre61 - rivets
FTE Pre61 - Parts - Good Experience
Re: FTE Pre61 - rivets
FTE Pre61 - New perspective
FTE Pre61 - Inner Fenders for M II Suspension



Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:02:28 -0500
From: "Brian C Nyman"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - High Powered 57-60s

Terry (tjoneshere,
I can relate about using the reverse oil pan. I don't know how much trouble you
went through to get yours, but I had a friend who had trashed his 4x4 and wasn't
using his anymore. So mine's got the reverse pan and an extra quart or two for
extra reservoir. That seems to work pretty well.

If you're interested in my setup, it's still pretty much what I described on my
pics on the pictorial page (390 + 0.060" C6 and posi 9" rear end with 3.56
gears). The only thing different so far is the fender-well side-outlet headers
won't clear the steering column, so we're going to have to either fashion some
or find some that drop straight down from the outlets.

I just loaded the frame up on a flatbed yesterday heading for the body shop.
Motor mounts are in place, and the transmission mount is pretty much the only
thing left on the frame to consider.

Brian Nyman
Allina Health Systems Provider Support

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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:36:02 -0400
From: "Miguel....."
Subject: FTE Pre61 - rivets

Thanks guys for your help in how to remove the door hinges. I hope to do
that some time this week.
Here goes another question:
Does anyone of you have a fast way to remove frame rivets.?

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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:24:06 -0700
From: "Kenneth A. Craig"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Parts - Good Experience

I have been monitoring this list since last fall and thought you might
appreciate my good experience finding parts for a 1953 F100. The carburetor
had been poorly rebuilt and has not worked well for the last three months.
I went to Vintage Auto Parts Inc. in Woodinville Wash. and they had a NOS
Carb. in stock. I had ordered a fuel pump from NAPA and it did not have the
glass bowl as an original and Vintage had one of those in stock. It is a
good day when you find what you need on the first try. Their number is
Now I need a wiring harness - they suggested Rhode Island Wiring, I'll check
it out next week.

Ken Craig
'53 F100 original condition
'59 F150 4x4 working on new engine
'64 TBird
'97 Mountaineer

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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:45:25 -0400
From: Art & Jeanne Irvin
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - rivets

At 03:36 PM 5/17/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Thanks guys for your help in how to remove the door hinges. I hope to do
>that some time this week.

Sorry I missed that thread. I just found this site last night. I've got 2
56 F100 Panel trucks, that I'm just beginning to work on. One restorable
the other is really rough. Plus bonus extra inside wheel wells and r&l
fenders. Both original 223 6cy. Stick. Could someone send me the info re:
hinges? Is there an archive of past posts?

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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:48:42 EDT
From: RJC988
Subject: FTE Pre61 - New perspective

In a message dated 5/15/99 9:30:53 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
owner-pre61-list-digest writes:

I've been looking at this post for a week now, I know it needs an
answer, I don't know if I can answer, this is my try.

In the grand city of Detroit, there more designers, engineers, model
makers, fabricators, and accountants than there are stars in the sky.
The companies who employ these people have more money than God and
enough computer power outdo the brains of ever person that ever lived.
Yet all these people, all that money, all that computer power, it still
takes them over two and 1/2 years to design a new car platform, and that
incorporating carry over parts, motors and technology. Who would compete
with them, call their work flawed?

Now comes people like Glenn, me and you, who don't want the the common
warmed over truck that many are perfectly happy to have. We are
guys who won't put a "350/350/9inch" in. We are the guys suppliers love
to hate, we ask for the odd the strange, the unusual. We are the guys
that have to cut and bend and fabricate and invent. We are the people
that turn Lincolns into trucks, sweat into pride, mistakes into
triumphs. No mustang II for us, no chevy van steering columns we resist
the mundane. We are hot rodders. We call the work of Detroit flawed, we
make it right.

If you are not going to go with the crowd, you are going to pay a
price and the price includes frustration, delay, rework, aggravation in
the extreme. The reward? Something no one else in the world has, a
vehicle truly your own for better or worse, a sense of pride in
overcoming the obstacles, a unique machine of which you can say with
pride "I DID IT". In a world of cookie cutter machines what's that

Glenn asks what to do, and wonders..

> 4.) Punt?! (meaning: give this charade up -- how many feel
this way?)

When you stop beating your head against the wall, it feels better I
suppose. But if you think for one second that the fellows working for
"Custom Truck" know some thing you don't, think harder. They all go to
"Fatman's Fabrication" and pay him mega bucks to figure it out, and I
bet you'd love to see the junk in his backyard that they never snap a
photo of. Walk away for a while, get a fresh perspective. How do you get
out of the current mess? Rework the firewall? set back the cab? reweld
the frame? How do I tell you what needs to be done, there is only so
much room here, it all has to look good or it's wasted.

At the end of the day, no one cares, there isn't any loss, its just
a lump of steel you try to put a soul into. It's not about you, its just
an expression of you in steel, that's all a rod is.

47Fred >>


You took the words right out of my mouth. Anybody can do it the easy way.
Especially if they have money (that would not include me)!

I just got back from Pigeon forge with a whole new outlook. With only 1 57 in
the whole field (unless someone could state otherwise - I did look the place
over for about 1 hr on Wed., 4 hr. on Fri, too many on Sat -- sunburn!!!), I
think Soapy could maybe win something someday. I got many good suggestions
from some of the participants, including the best from the guy with the white
w/pink flames 54 with the 5.0 HO. His suggestion was to leave the engine
where it is and cut away the firewall -- best for the clip. There were many
oothers helpful especially on Wed afternoon. You just gotta go to these shows!

Glenn in TN
Soapy the waiting-with-baited-breath 57 F-100
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:54:10 EDT
From: WinfordR
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Inner Fenders for M II Suspension

Thanks Dennis, Shane and Gary, for the info on the inner fenders. I was
afraid it was a 'do it yourself' deal. Although I guess that's what we are
all doing in the hobby anyway.

I'm not too much with the sheet metal work. Guess I will take the advice and
use some cardboard and play with it. I will report on my progress, if any!

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