pre61-list-digest Friday, April 30 1999 Volume 03 : Number 124



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - '56 F100
FTE Pre61 - looking for someone
FTE Pre61 - independent rear suspension
Re: FTE Pre61 - '56 F100
FTE Pre61 - Headers for 351W
Re: FTE Pre61 - independent rear suspension
FTE Pre61 - Re:Getting the "Pimp" in the tank
RE: FTE Pre61 - One for us
RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: Good Guys Meet in Orlando
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re:Getting the "Pimp" in the tank
Re: FTE Pre61 - '56 F100
FTE Pre61 - IFS

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 05:39:23 -0400
From: "Frank Mester Jr."
Subject: FTE Pre61 - '56 F100

People,

I am picking up a '56 F100 today. It runs, the steering is a very
sloppy,I dont think I am going to keep it but I didnt want to see it
scrapped. Anyone interested? Iwill have some digital pictures this
afternoon.

Frank '51 F1 "lizzy", '51 C/C Riviera "Beats workin' "

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:09:40 -0500
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - looking for someone

does anyone out there know J. R. ( alligator) Ziegler from Alexandria, Ky
that owns a BEAUTIFUL 53 f-100... it's red, slick and smooth

I need to contact him...need an e-mail address or phone #

TIA

john


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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:46:35 -0400
From: "Sheldon Rier"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - independent rear suspension

Hi all!!

was at my buddies the mechanics yesterday & he had a '90 Tbird supercoupe
that had been crashed that they were salvaging the drive line out of

a closer looked that these things have independent rear suspension which is
bizarre because I just read in a popular magazine how the new Stang SVT is
Fords first IRS in a RWD car

question:
would these things have regular 9" internals
why have I seen tons of Jag & vette rear ends but not one of these
any downside to using one

it seems to be in it's own subframe so shouldn't be too bad to install -
appears reasonably compact - one of the wheels took a hard hit so will have
to make sure the support arms are OK

Thanks!!!
Sheldon

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 99 09:17:38 PDT
From: "zeener"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '56 F100

Where is it located?

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> People,
>
> I am picking up a '56 F100 today. It runs, the steering is a very
> sloppy,I dont think I am going to keep it but I didnt want to see it
> scrapped. Anyone interested? Iwill have some digital pictures this
> afternoon.
>
> Frank '51 F1 "lizzy", '51 C/C Riviera "Beats workin' "
>
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:24:59 -0600
From: Tim Gough
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Headers for 351W

I have a '58 that I have inserted a 351W into and also
converted to power steering. The steering box is in the
same place as original. I found headers for the Y-block
that clear the steering box but haven't found ones
for the 351W. I would like to avoid street rod style
headers if at all possible. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Tim

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:53:12 -0400
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - independent rear suspension

Sheldon Rier wrote:

> a closer looked that these things have independent rear suspension which is
> bizarre because I just read in a popular magazine how the new Stang SVT is
> Fords first IRS in a RWD car
>
> question:
> would these things have regular 9" internals
> why have I seen tons of Jag & vette rear ends but not one of these
> any downside to using one

The "bird and Mustang are so called "fox body" based cars and are
quite similar underneath. They use the 8.8" axle which many consider as
strong as a 9" and more efficient due to the pinion placement. Take care
in selecting fox axles 'cause many use the 7.5" axle which is supposed
to be inferior. The main disadvantage of the 8.8" is that it uses
C-clips for axle retention like the brand X 10 and 12 bolt units. The
axles are also set up for a 4 link, coil spring suspension, and I
understand that the IRS setup uses the same body mounting points as
attachments. For a street rod or weekend show truck, an 8.8 would be a
good choice in place of a 9", but for a working truck who knows. The
weight of a 'bird or a 'stang is close to that of a '50's truck, less
load. On a street rod truck, dropped 5 or 6 inches and powered with a
hearty 351, I'd say a 8.8"IRS and 3.73 gears would be the nuts.

47Fred
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:13:52 -0700
From: Mel
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re:Getting the "Pimp" in the tank

You wrote:> Terry;
> Inside measurement is 29-1/2", outside is 34". There are two tanks, one for
> fuel injected vehicles, with the pimp in the tank. and, the one I used for
OK Terry......I have been trying to get the pimp from downtown to get in
the tank. I have bribed him, drugged him and got him new ladies. There
is no way he is going into the tank and he said that he knows of no
other pimp that would go into the tank alive. Was your pimp dead or
alive when you put him in your tank?
Mel
53 f100
34 Roadster
34 5w
70 El Camino
PS: I am so sorry, I had to do it. When I read the email I lost my
coffee. Sorry Terry, the mental image was too much to resist. :)
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:19:31 -0700
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - One for us

Hey, It's starting to happen. Last night at a local car show there was a 57
Ch**y pickup with either a 429 or 460 in it. I parked my F100 right next to
him and called all my Ch**y loving friends over to look at it.

Did my heart good!
Denny
55F100

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> From: RJC988 aol.com[SMTP:RJC988 aol.com]
> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 1999 7:22 PM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - One for us
>
> Guys,
>
> I hope you won't deem this off topic Ken, but I was at a car show in Heber
>
> Springs, Ark today and saw a c****y truck (about a '40 model -- I don't
> keep
> up with them!) with a 302 and C4 in it! If I would have found the owner I
> would have kissed him (NOT!)
>
> Glenn in TN and waiting for PF!
> Soapy the waiting-for-me-to-quit-going-to-shows-without-her 57 F-100
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:38:54 -0700
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: Good Guys Meet in Orlando

Hey Tom,

Let me know what you think of the show. A lot of us here in California are
a little disenchanted with the Goodguys shows. Here in Pleasanton they've
been getting more and more big buck oriented and less fun to enter. All the
talk is Himsel, Coddington and Brizio. We've even noticed the manufacturers
are not showing up except to the bigger shows he puts on.

I attend as a spectator, but dropped my Goodguys membership and rarely enter
his shows anymore.

Dennis
55F100

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> From: TNickolson aol.com[SMTP:TNickolson aol.com]
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> Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 3:38 PM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Good Guys Meet in Orlando
>
> Anyone going to Orlando, Fl. this weekend to the "Good Guys" show? This is
>
> their first show in Florida and I expect it will be first class. I am just
>
> warming up for PF., getting in the mood.
>
>
> Tom
> 52 F1 "The General"
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:31:04 EDT
From: Meats56 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re:Getting the "Pimp" in the tank

LMAO and still rolling can only imagine!!!
Meat
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:08:57 -0600
From: "oxleygf msn.com"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '56 F100

Frank, I'm interested in the 56. email pics would be great! Thanks, Bill

- -----Original Message-----
From: Frank Mester Jr.
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 3:45 AM
Subject: FTE Pre61 - '56 F100


>People,
>
>I am picking up a '56 F100 today. It runs, the steering is a very
>sloppy,I dont think I am going to keep it but I didnt want to see it
>scrapped. Anyone interested? Iwill have some digital pictures this
>afternoon.
>
>Frank '51 F1 "lizzy", '51 C/C Riviera "Beats workin' "
>
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:12:32 -0500
From: "Terry"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - IFS

I was curious why no one has bothered with the twin I-beam on the older
straight axle trucks? I know it is not as smooth and responsive as an IFS.
But with so many people building closer to stock it is nearly a bolt up to
an existing frame. The crossmember can hold as big of an engine as someone
can come up with. And it is easy to bolt on disc brakes and power steering.
If you dont plan to build a lowered street rod, the I-beam seems to be a
good alternative, unless I am missing the boat about something. Anybody have
good reasons why it wouldnt be a viable choice?....


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