pre61-list-digest Thursday, April 29 1999 Volume 03 : Number 123



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - gas tank ? for Fred g 454
FTE Pre61 - U.S. Marine Corp. 59 F-100
FTE Pre61 - Gas tanks
FTE Pre61 - more gas tanks
FTE Pre61 - Tire Question
FTE Pre61 - Gas tank advice
FTE Pre61 - Rear end
Re: FTE Pre61 - Tire Question
Re: FTE Pre61 - Tire Question
Re: FTE Pre61 - Tire Question
FTE Pre61 - '53-'56 Cab on later chassis?
FTE Pre61 - Rebuild of Chrysler Cordoba IFS
FTE Pre61 - 59 Emblem

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:36:07 -0400
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - gas tank ? for Fred g 454

Terry;
Inside measurement is 29-1/2", outside is 34". There are two tanks, one for
fuel injected vehicles, with the pimp in the tank. and, the one I used for
vehicles with carbs. $35. bucks for the tank and $70. to have it cleaned and
the filler moved. One of the magazines, custom classic trucks I think did an
install using this tank too. With the filler in the original location. You have
to notch the frame for the filler that way. Also on the list, Michelle put one
in her truck. they do work nice in the 100's. Hope this helps.
Fred

"Terry W. Jones" wrote:

> I looked at your site, the tank installation looks good. I'm just wondering
> what is the measurement between your frame rails. I would like to try that.
> Thanks, Terry
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:14:21 -0400
From: "Gayland Crutchfield"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - U.S. Marine Corp. 59 F-100

Thought this might be of interest to some.....
The '59 F-100 my son and I are restoring was created it seems
as a truck for the U.S. Marine Corp. The paint code is "S" (special)
and the original color (still inside the cab - exterior has been repainted)
is olive green. The only differences I can find are: that olive green; a
label
on the dash about military vehicles; two holes on the dash (on that label)
where maybe a microphone hung (?); "Max Speed 55" stenciled on the dash
below the instrument panel; a couple of holes on the hood where maybe
some extra lights were hooked (?); and a couple of metal info plates about
the
truck titled U.S. Marine Corp. (on the firewall and inside driver door).
Kinda makes me proud that my truck served it's country in the Marines
Maybe I should call it "Sarge"
Crutch

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:51:35 CDT
From: "shandy erisman"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Gas tanks

I am attempting to remove my tank from the cab and put it
a tank under the bed I have a tank form an 81 Granada that I am
planning on using any advice? thanks

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:48:28 +0100
From: "Paul Y."
Subject: FTE Pre61 - more gas tanks

Hey! I don't believe it! We must be doing all this stuff at the same time.
I've just had a 9" rear fitted (yes, I own up; I can't do it myself. I did
ok with a '72 Harley but after I bought the effie I had two more kids and my
work now sends me away from home all the time) and while I was underneath
checking everything, I wondered how in Houdini's name can you get an
under-bed gas tank in there.
I've seen, in Classic Trucks, a Bed Mount gas tank from Fat Fendered Street
Rod Shop at 19-24 gallons that claims to work with the basic side fill or an
optional bed fill. Whether you have to move the frame rail or not it doesn't
say. It's $400 with an info no.(909)357-2700.
Randy, you might want to check that out, if you haven't already.
For me that's closer to $600 once I've shipped it to England.

While I'm here, I was cheated on my 9" Ford by buying blind. 250 was the
flat price for any 9" axle, that's about $325-350 (part-exing the old 8")
and it looked like it had sat in a swamp for 5years. I've replaced
everything. Then I waited four months before realising he was never going to
swap my 2.75 gears for 3.11 as promised and had to order them from the U.S.
Anyway, it's riding much smoother with those new gears, and he unwittingly
gave me one with a limited slip diff. Suffice to say, he's not getting the
8", I'm selling it on (not easy over here!) Watch out for those sharks.

Good luck, P.Y.

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:22:53 -0500
From: Jeff Hazewinkel
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tire Question

I am in the process of finding a good supplier for the tires for my 47
1 1/2 ton and have a question regarding tire size. Currently the tires
on the rear are 750 x 17 and there are 700 x 17 on the front.

I was told by one supplier that I could put 700 x 17 all they way
around. Is that true ? What is the difference between the 700 and the
750 ?

Jeff

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:23:28 EDT
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Gas tank advice

Guys,

Here's my $.02! You'll notice the all the truck manufacturers, they don't put
the gas tank in the cabs anymore, so it can't be safer in there! GM has moved
there's inside the framerails after the Nightline debacle (I still won't
watch Nightline after that showing). One TV show had an article on this years
ago. It showed an "off brand" pickup burnt to a crisp after only turning on
its side, knocking the gas filler neck off, and leaking gas on the ground.
The driver was killed.

Without a rear bumper, one in the back may be just as susceptible. A tank
between the frame rail and the driveshaft would be best if something could
balance the other side (maybe one on each side).

Plus there is the smell consideration. Personally, I don't want to walk
around all day smelling like regular unleaded! I don't think you can get
those tanks and hoses tight enough not to let vapors out.

Plus, anyone running EFI, as I'm am trying, will not want to put up with a
pump filling the cab with drumming sounds. All I want to here is maybe Chuck
Berry or Bill Haley!

I might go the Isuzu route myself. The Lincoln's tank is about a foot too
long to go inside my framerails. If I decide not to put in the front of the
bed and load a toolbox on top, I will be looking. This is a hard proposition,
but if we wanted the easy way out, we would go out and buy a '99 Lightning!

Of course the restorers will have no part of this -- so -- OH WELL!

Glenn in TN
Soapy the 57 F-100
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:52:39 -0500
From: "Steve Hansen"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Rear end

Ok all you rear end specialests... I opened the ford 9" today. The big gear
has 35 teeth, and it seems to take 3.5 turns on the driveshaft to turn it
once... Hence, is it a 3.50:1 ratio? And how do you think it will do on a
flathead/merc transmission (OD, if I get it to work). Should I start
thinking about changing befor I start any work?
Steve
50 F-1

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:53:26 EDT
From: Fordf3 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tire Question

have you found 1 manufacturer that can provide both sizes
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:19:54 -0500
From: Jeff Hazewinkel
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tire Question

I have been able to find both manufactured by Firestone, but there is a
great difference in price between the 700's and the 750's.

Jeff

Fordf3 aol.com wrote:

> have you found 1 manufacturer that can provide both sizes
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:29:55 EDT
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tire Question

It this is correct, the 700 (or 7.00) tires are 7 inches wide. The 750 (7.50)
are 7 and a half inches wide. My parts truck, a '52 half ton, had the 750's
all the way around and the guy that I bought it from said he drove them for
several years before parking it. My red book said it came from the factory
with the 700's. Don't see why it wouldn't work.

Paul
'52 F-3
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:37:07 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - '53-'56 Cab on later chassis?

I talked to an idividual who had for sale a '56 F100 that had been set on
a complete '65 F100 frame and chassis. It was too far away for me to go
look at, but it got me thinking. He said it rode and drove excellant.
Have any of you folks seen a truck done this way? What would be the
strong and weak points of this? Would the twin eye beam front track
width cause tire/fender interference?
Good idea or bad idea?
Brett
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:12:28 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Rebuild of Chrysler Cordoba IFS

Bill,
I have not installed the exact kit you describe, but have installed
polygraphite bushings in the control arms, leaf springs, radius rods,
idler arms, etc. in other vehicles. One thing to watch for is to analyze
how the bushing functions. Did the original bushing twist with no
slippage or did it slip between the bushing and shaft? Some
polygraphites are too stiff to twist, and instead rely entirely on
slippage between the bushing and the shaft. One suggestion is to tap the
bushings to allow grease to be injected between the shaft and the bushing
for improved lubrication. I did not do that on my daily driver but now
wish I had.
Ask the vendor as many questions up front as possible. All in all, I
like the polygraphites better than the old urethanes or the original
rubber bushing sets.
Brett
>
>Since I am required to dissassemble then reassemble suspension from the
>donor front end on my Gibbon's front crossmember for my '56 F-100, I
>wonder if I should use the opportunity to add to either rebuild the
>suspension (Plymouth Satellite, Chrysler Cordoba) using Performance
>Suspension Technology 's original performance front end kit or upgrade
it
>with their Polygraphite Front End kit.
>Can anyone offer advice on the value of the upgrade to polygraphite and
>any unique difficulties with either kit during a rebuild. The price
>differential between the two appears to be about $50 ($179-$229). Their

>web site is at
>Bill Meglen


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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:30:04 EDT
From: My59f100 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 59 Emblem

In a message dated 4/26/99 5:45:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
owner-pre61-list-digest ford-trucks.com writes:


Blue or red in the Ford emblem?
Thanks!
Crutch 59F-100 Atlanta >>
Hi:59 hood emblem is Red outside the gear and lightning bolt Black inside the
gear and Black letters F-100.....


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