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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Free 1999 catalog for 53-72 F-series
Re: FTE Pre61 - Free 1999 catalog for 53-72 F-series
FTE Pre61 - Special paint
FTE Pre61 - Spring Carlisle
Re: FTE Pre61 - Free 1999 catalog for 53-72 F-series
RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: seats???
FTE Pre61 - Stupid Question 4002
FTE Pre61 - One more 53-56 F100 question
Re: FTE Pre61 - Stupid Question 4002
RE: FTE Pre61 - Welders
RE: FTE Pre61 - Ignition Wiring
FTE Pre61 - Removing leaves
FTE Pre61 - re-What oil pan
Re: FTE Pre61 - Rear Differential ID
Re: FTE Pre61 - Rear Differential ID
FTE Pre61 - Spark plugs for 54 F250 Y Block 239
Re: FTE Pre61 - Welders
Re: FTE Pre61 - One more 53-56 F100 question
FTE Pre61 - Sleeper Cabs
Re: FTE Pre61 - re: Front Sump Oil Pans
FTE Pre61 - paint codes

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:36:51 -0400
From: "Ronald D. Miller"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Free 1999 catalog for 53-72 F-series

Email me off the list for a free copy of Auto Krafters' 1999 edition of
1953-72 F-series catalog just back from the printers. If you have ordered
from us within the last year, a copy is already on the way to you. Thanks,
Ron Miller akraft shentel.net www.auto krafters. com
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 06:24:19 PDT
From: "Bo Widerberg"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Free 1999 catalog for 53-72 F-series

Hello,

Please send me a copy of your 1999 53-71 F-series catalog. Many
thanks in advance.

Bo Vilmos Widerberg
6810 Twelve Oaks Blvd
Tampa FL 33634-2268

Thanks again!!

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:12:07 -0700
From: "Paul J. Donadio"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Special paint

I have a '59 F-100 Custom Cab. The VIN number indicates "S" (special
paint) as the original color. Is there anyway to determine which special
color(s) the truck came out of the factory with? I suspect my truck was
originally two-tone, but don't know for a fact.

Additionally, my truck was originally equipped with a left-side armrest and
a white steering wheel with a chrome horn ring (versus horn button). I am
in need of both the armrest and horn ring but can not find a supplier for
either. Does anyone know where I can get my hands on these items?

Paul

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:44:29 -0400
From: Lee.Slezak ee.doe.gov
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Spring Carlisle

Hello everyone. I'm one of the silent members that for the most part just reads
all the posts and tries to retain as much information as possible, but now it's
time to try posting. I'll be going to Spring Carlisle this Friday and Saturday
and I'll be bringing a pair of rear fenders for a 48-early50 F-1 and a set of
running boards for a 48-52 F-1. These are extra parts I have picked up over the
years of collecting parts for my restoration and I am selling them to make space
in the garage and bank account for more work on my late '50 F-1. If anyone is
interested in these parts or in other hi-po mid to late 60s Ford parts e-mail me
at slezaks erols.com and I'll let you know where I'll be located. Or, if you
want pictures I can e-mail you some. Thanks for your time everyone.

Lee
50 F-1 Flathead V-8
66 Galaxie 500 2dr 352 4V



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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:03:05 PDT
From: "Bo Widerberg"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Free 1999 catalog for 53-72 F-series

DOH!!!

Sorry about that everyone. Thought I was replying off list. ;-(

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:44:40 -0700
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re: seats???

Paul,

I know a lot of guys are running late model (87 - ?) Che*y PU seats. They
bolt up, look great, have a thin back and give you a little more room. The
only bad I heard is that they aren't that comfortable. I bought one, found
out about the comfort (My son has a Che*y) and decided to rework my stock
seat. I plan to do some serious touring with this one and comfort is
important.

Dennis
55 F100

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> From: Paul Y.[SMTP:young.paul lineone.net]
> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 5:29 AM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: seats???
>
> In the last mail John wrote:
> I really thought that those 6 way adjustable 60/40 split bench Caddy seats
> would look good in the '53.
> But I think I've got too much seating. These things are like a living
> room sofa ? Didn't look that big outside the cab
> I'm looking for a source for bench seats, ( Other than the junk yard )
> maybe pull outs from customizing shops, etc.
>
> Anyone have any recommendations for what works well and fits ??? I think
> the tilt back would be a necessary option. Electrics would be nice but
> not
> essential.
>
> Well, I never received a reply from my similar question two weeks ago
> about
> a Caddy seat I saw in Classic Trucks, inside a '56, with a centre arm rest
> complete with cup holes. I don't think it was a 60-40. Tilt back is no
> option for me, I have to take the seat waaay back. Lets hope someone can
> help us, John.
> My other quest was for a new hood-mounted screenwash jet, mine's dying.
> Any
> ideas?
> They don't seem to be in any catalogs I have from the U.S. (SoCal,
> Mid-Fifties, Obsolete Ford)
>
> Hopefully waiting.......Paul
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:18:09 -0700
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Stupid Question 4002

Hi all,

Putting my truck together finally and old mister electricity strikes me
again.

Reinstalled and connected my taillights and turn signals and:

Left front turn signal/parking light is dimmer than right.
With lights off both front and back signals work.
With lights on left front signal doesn't blink.
With lights on both front signals are on
Rear works ok.

Didn't change the wiring, just reconnected. Did repaint so I'm thinking the
left front isn't getting a good ground?

Sound right? Any ideas?

Thanks to all ahead of time for their help.

Dennis
55F100
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:10:33 PDT
From: "Bo Widerberg"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - One more 53-56 F100 question

Hello, All:

Once again, many thanks to all who commented on my recent V8
question. I have one more, however. What are your recommendations for
a rearend for a 53-56? I've heard a 1968-1972 F100-F150 rearend will
fit perfectly. I've also seen F100s on the Web with 9" Lincoln
rearends (but don't know which year Lincoln).

If I were to take a list of potential rearends with me down to the
local auto wrecker, what should I look for? What will fit?

Many thanks in advance.

Bo

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:58:34 -0400
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Stupid Question 4002

"O'Connell, Dennis M" wrote:
> Left front turn signal/parking light is dimmer than right.
> With lights off both front and back signals work.
> With lights on left front signal doesn't blink.
> With lights on both front signals are on
> Rear works ok.

99% of these kinds of problems are related to poor grounding,
sometimes lamp to holder, sometimes holder to housing and sometimes
housing to ground. Easy way to check is make a test lead of a decent
length, carefully ground it, then touch it to the suspect bulb base, the
holder, the housing. Dumb statement #4003, be sure the bulbs are good.
Check also, before you say fixed, the body to battery connection. I
always add one or two to anything I work on.

47Fred
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:08:31 -0500
From: "Rich Garber"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Welders

>
> Guys,
>
> Thanks for all the answers I got concerning welders. I bit the
> "financial"
> bullet and bought a Lincoln Weldpack and the Mig convertor for
> it. It looks
> much easier than the stick welder I had borrowed. Now if my parts
> will come
> in from John's F-funhundreds. Its been about 9 days now!
>
> Glenn,

Congratulations! you'll wonder how you ever lived without one.


Rich
54 F100
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:08:29 -0500
From: "Rich Garber"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Ignition Wiring

>
> Worked late tonight and haven't dived under my dash, but I did
> try to start my truck; "no fire." Easy answer is that a wire's
> come loose or broken, and I plan go under the dash this weekend.
> I Studied my shop manual tonight but can't find a wiring diagram
> for the ignition switch.

Ray,

I would take a jumper wire from the battery to the coil first.
That would confirm or eliminate the bad wiring in the dash.
My points in my 54, built up resistance and one day wouldn't
start, they looked good, but the ohm meter said otherwise.

Rich
54 F100
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:45:46 EDT
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Removing leaves

Guys,

I don't think it is advisable to remove leaves from the front end. Those old
motors, even the 6's, are very heavy and these springs have already been
going up and down for 40 or 50 years. I have heard they will break. You
probably can remove 2 or 3 from the rear, just don't plan on hauling anything.

Just my $.02!

Glenn in TN
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:02:48 -0700
From: "Vierra, William BGI SF"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - re-What oil pan

My 51 F-1 currently has a 71 302 with the front sump. It fits and I have
4+ inches clearance with the stock suspension. When I rebuilt or replace
the motor later this year I will change to rear sump. I would have gone
that way from the beginning if I had put in this motor. Your 49 should not
be too much different.
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:29:58 -0700
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Rear Differential ID

>Need some info. I dug through the grime and found the ID tag on the
>differential of my
>50 F-1. Can someone tell me what these mean:
>W 41
>Is this the gear ratio?

Sounds right--41 teeth on the ring gear and 11 on the pinion. Gives you a
3.72 ratio. Odd though--I didn't think you could GET a 3.72 ratio on a 50.
I've only ever seen 3.91 and 4.11. Maybe I'm wrong then, or maybe you
don't have an original rear end. The numbers on my tag worked out to 3.91
like they were supposed to.

>Also, will a 52 seat fit my 50?

Yes.

~Dan

1950 F1 351C-2v--Awaiting 9" Rear
1992 Mustang --Angry at the $1.55 gas.

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:46:51 EDT
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Rear Differential ID

In a message dated 4/20/1999 9:30:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
selbyrk npoint.net writes:

> eed some info. I dug through the grime and found the ID tag on the
> differential of my
> 50 F-1. Can someone tell me what these mean:
> W 41
> Is this the gear ratio?
That's the format that ratios are in, but it works out to 3.73, which
I don't think was an original option. Most were 43/11 which is 3.91 but
often called 3.92 for some unknown reason. Optional was a 4.27.
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:48:09 EDT
From: "Bill Casady"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Spark plugs for 54 F250 Y Block 239

Had some problems with Chuck running rough. Took the plugs out,
Autolites 124, and they were wet and black. Cleaned them up and
Chuck ran pretty good. Chuck uses a "little" oil. Probably will
need new rings, but for now can I put in a hotter plug? What would
anyone recommend?

Just Plain Bill :)


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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:23:35 -0400
From: "Jason Piccola"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Welders

Glenn,

I have a Lincoln Weldpack. Did you get the 125 or the 155 model? I bought the
155 because I have a 230V line in my garage. I think the weldpack models are
great. If you purchased yours through a catalog, you can buy supplies from any
local Home Depo. They carry the Lincoln products such as tips, wire and
accessories. If you have not installed the Mig conversion kit yet. Be careful
installing the wire liner into the gun cable. I almost striped the lock screw
that holds the liner in place.

I have made all sorts of friends that I never new I had wanting me to weld a
piece of metal here or make something. Don't worry, I have made a list and
they will pay me back some day.

Happy welding.

Jason from Pittsburgh
55' F-250 Stake

RJC988 aol.com wrote:

> Guys,
>
> Thanks for all the answers I got concerning welders. I bit the "financial"
> bullet and bought a Lincoln Weldpack and the Mig convertor for it. It looks
> much easier than the stick welder I had borrowed. Now if my parts will come
> in from John's F-funhundreds. Its been about 9 days now!
>
> Glenn in TN
> Soapy the "ready-for-assembly" 57 F-100
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:30:28 -0700
From: George Miller
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - One more 53-56 F100 question

What do you need in the way of flange to flange measurement and how much
power will it be handling?

George Miller

Bo Widerberg wrote:
>
> Hello, All:
>
> Once again, many thanks to all who commented on my recent V8
> question. I have one more, however. What are your recommendations for
> a rearend for a 53-56? I've heard a 1968-1972 F100-F150 rearend will
> fit perfectly. I've also seen F100s on the Web with 9" Lincoln
> rearends (but don't know which year Lincoln).
>
> If I were to take a list of potential rearends with me down to the
> local auto wrecker, what should I look for? What will fit?
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Bo
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:42:38 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Sleeper Cabs

Folks,
Have any of you seen a 50's Ford large truck (semi, Big Jobs, etc.) with
a sleeper cab? Aren't the basic cabs shared with the light duty pickups?
Hmmm.....
Brett
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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:14:34 EDT
From: Taer2 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - re: Front Sump Oil Pans

I've noticed that some of the mail order clips have a problem that stock
suspensions don't, and that is room near the front pump. I got a mustang II
clip from RB Obsolete, and instead of framing up the clip to accommodate
later model engines, they put the cross member too high in the engine bay.
At any rate, I've now had to raplace more components (ie in line oil filter
modification, and removing and rewelding motor mounts, and now this pan
problem) than I would've thought necessary for a motor upgrade.

Just curious to other peoples experiences with cross referencing parts. For
example i'm still looking for an answer on my pan issue. Does anyone out
there know if a 302 ford Bronco pan will bolt up to an 88 mustang 302 with
the double chin pan, or will the pump hit the Bronco pan?

Happy reconstruction.

Eric
52 f-1

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