pre61-list-digest Tuesday, April 20 1999 Volume 03 : Number 113



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - seats ?????
Re: FTE Pre61 - Which V-8
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: What V8 will drop into a '53 F100?
RE: FTE Pre61 - What V8 will drop into a 53 F100?
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Ford Motorsports Enthusiasts gathering
[none]
Re: FTE Pre61 - armrests for 1951 F1
Re: FTE Pre61 - '57-'60 F-100 owners out there???
FTE Pre61 - Master Cylinder
FTE Pre61 - FE Answers
Re: FTE Pre61 - '57-'60 F-100 owners out there???
RE: FTE Pre61 - '57-'60 F-100 owners out there???
FTE Pre61 - 1957 Ford f250 for Auction
FTE Pre61 - fenders for 1939 C.O.E.
Re: FTE Pre61 - '57-'60 F-100 owners out there???

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:35:03 -0500
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - seats ?????

I really thought that those 6 way adjustable 60/40 split bench Caddy seats
would look good in the '53.
But I think I've got too much seating. These things are like a living
room sofa ? Didn't look that big outside the cab
I'm looking for a source for bench seats, ( Other than the junk yard )
maybe pull outs from customizing shops, etc.

Anyone have any recommendations for what works well and fits ??? I think
the tilt back would be a necessary option. Electrics would be nice but not
essential.

Or if anyone has used the above mentioned Caddy seats sucessfully....I
could use their input.

thanks

john


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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:49:51 -0400
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Which V-8

Mike Garoppo wrote:
>
>
> If you have a 272 or 292 you can take a 332 bell housing and
> mount a 390, 428 directly to the stock mounts with NO modifications!
> Ford also made a 302 in the late fifties. Check it out.

Mike, are you saying that a 292 (Y-block series) bell housing bolt
pattern is the same as a FE series? I had always thought the FE was a
unique series and wouldn't interchange with the Y-block series. Can you
shed a little more light on this?

As to the 302, whats the deal here? Obviously not a windsor, as we
know it, and I'd never heard of a Y-block of that size although quite
often Ford was a little arbitrary as to what they advertised
displacement as. Come on now spill the beans and tell your story.

47Fred
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:03:37 -0400
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: What V8 will drop into a '53 F100?

All of the Ford Motors you mentioned
> will fit easily into a '53 F100 with solid axle
> suspension, but you should select one that gives you
> the option of a rear sump oil pan, . That eliminates the Windsors
> 289/302/351W.
> Also select a C6 tranny.
>
There is an option for both these choices, although not strictly a
true rear sump, almost all 302 and 351 used since about 1980 have a
"double hump" oil pan. This pan has a small front hump for the oil pump,
and a larger rear hump, that actually holds the oil and the pickup. Used
in Mustang, and Crown Victoria. The 351 and 302 pans and pick ups (and a
special main bolt with stud) can be had thru Ford Motorsports. Note that
the 351 pan is different than the 302 if you get a swap meet unit.
Unless you had gobs of power or was hauling gravel, there's little
to be said bad about a C-4, its lighter more common, and a pretty
durable unit.

47Fred
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:05:06 PDT
From: "Bo Widerberg"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - What V8 will drop into a 53 F100?

Many, many thanks to everyone who responded to my post. It was great
to read all your comments, and I very much appreciate your taking
time out to write them. I have a much clearer idea of what I want to
do to my truck now. Thanks again!

Bo

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:41:28 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Ford Motorsports Enthusiasts gathering

This is a reminder to those who said they plan on attending the
Ford Motorsports Enthusiasts event at Ford's world headquarters
(Dearborn).

The event will be this Thursday. If you lost the directions and
schedule (or never had them), email me privately
(kpayne ford-trucks.com) and I'll send them. Wear your Ford
Truck Enthusiasts t-shirt to show everyone who you represent. There
should be several clubs there and its a great chance to meet others
and see what Ford has planned.

I'll be flying there for the day (Peggy can't make it) and I
look forward to meeting some of you!

Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:09:48 PDT
From: "Bill Carlson"
Subject: [none]

Hey Everybody,
I just finished my front and rear brakes on my 56 F100. I put an ECI
disk brake kit on the front, and kept the original rear drums on the
rear. I bought a power master cylinder from an 88 mustang to go
with the No Limit kit to bolt it on. Now I just need brake lines.
Does anybody know a good source for them? I've seen a few
advertisements in Classic Trucks, but not sure on which company to
use. If anybody has experience with a certain company or knows a
place I could get them, please let me know. Thanks.

Billy Carlson
56 F100 Pickup
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:23:19 EDT
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - armrests for 1951 F1

In a message dated 4/18/1999 7:23:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SJablecki AOL.COM writes:

> Does any body have a pair or the left one for a 1951 F1 truck? Stan
Stan - I'm heading for Carlisle Wednesday and Thursday and can keep
my eyes peeled. What condition do you need? I have no idea what they're
worth, but lots of Carlisle vendors thinks their parts are made of gold.
Come to think of it, I can use some better ones myself!
As you may know, they get in the way of tilting the seat forward
unless both doors are open.
Let me know if you want me to look for some.
Jonas
'51 F1R1
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:06:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '57-'60 F-100 owners out there???

- --- Gayland Crutchfield wrote:
> Hi! I'm new to the list and just wanted to check and
> see if there are any
> '57 to '60 F-100 owners/rebuilders out there who
> would like to keep in
> touch. My son and I are rebuilding a '59 stepside.
> It seems to be the
> hardest to find parts for. Maybe we could trade
> advice, parts, or whatever.
> See ya,
> Crutch
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hi my name is mark and i also have a 59' ford. my truck looks a little
different then most of the 59' trucks that you see. mine looks more
like a 60 then a 59' if there is any way that you could please send me
a picture of yours that so that i could see what it looks like it would
be greatly appreciated because there isn't may 59' around to look at.
thaks a lot.
mark

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:48:04 +0000
From: Andy Montebello
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Master Cylinder

I have a dual reservoir master cylinder (non-power) for a 1967 Ford
Pickup that I am planning on putting on my 1950 Ford Pickup with stock
brakes. One reservoir is much larger than the other -- is the larger
for the front brakes or back brakes or no either one?



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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:09:00 -0500
From: Mike Garoppo
Subject: FTE Pre61 - FE Answers

Brett, No economy but great power and durabilty. The best I could get w/390-4v
was 13 mpg. A VERY light foot. The average was 10 or so. Aluminum int.,headers w/2
1/2 flowmasters, mild comp cam, and a 750 cfm holley with jets out of a 600 cfm.
More air and less gas. I'll try the Jacobs next. Get a bigger gas tank and stand on
it. I like the FORD POWER.

Fordman


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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:58:13 -0400
From: "Gayland Crutchfield"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '57-'60 F-100 owners out there???

Mark
Here are a couple of places to look at difference in 59 and 60's.
Mainly the hood/trim and grille. Also does yours have the id plate on
inside door of glove compartment? (if so, we can tell what it is
exactly.)
Here's a couple of 59/60 pics on the web if they will help...
I'll also send you some pics of mine.
Crutch '59F-100 Atlanta
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http://www.ford-trucks.com/pictorial/ford2b.html



>hi my name is mark and i also have a 59' ford. my truck looks a little
>different then most of the 59' trucks that you see. mine looks more
>like a 60 then a 59' if there is any way that you could please send me
>a picture of yours that so that i could see what it looks like it would
>be greatly appreciated because there isn't may 59' around to look at.
>thaks a lot.
> mark
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:38:03 -0700
From: "Kenneth A. Craig"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - '57-'60 F-100 owners out there???

I have a '59 F100 4x4 that came with a '60 hood. I bought it about a year
ago. The vin number identifies it as a '59 and the grille is a '59. I
bought a '59 F250 for parts that has the normal '59 grille and hood. The
ford-truck web site has pictures of several '57-'60 pickups.

The Ford Pickup Red Book lists the changes in 1960 as follows: "The 1960
pickups featured a new grille that incorporated quad headlight bezels. The
hood also got new sculpturing and new side ornamentation. Several minor
improvements appeared, such as modified door latches, new door seals, a
redesigned armrest, a redesigned wiring harness with multiplug sockets, and
a cowlside fuse box and circuit breaker box."

Ken Craig
'53 F100 on loan
'59 F100 4x4
'64 T-Bird

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hi my name is mark and i also have a 59' ford. my truck looks a little
different then most of the 59' trucks that you see. mine looks more like a
60 then a 59' if there is any way that you could please send me a picture of
yours that so that i could see what it looks like it would be greatly
appreciated because there isn't may 59' around to look at.


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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 02:11:14 EDT
From: A57F250 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 1957 Ford f250 for Auction

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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 03:45:02 EDT
From: Lookn4iron aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - fenders for 1939 C.O.E.

I have heard that their is a vendor with fenders for a 1939 Ford C.O.E.
Can any one point me to a place that sells parts (fenders) for early
C.O.E.'s

Bill


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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 02:58:35 -0500
From: "Terry W. Jones"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '57-'60 F-100 owners out there???

I have a '60 model truck.
I think what Ford did was to use all the parts that they had left over from
one year to the next. The '59s started out with round parklights then
changed to rectangular later in the year, they also did the same to the
hoods from '58 to '59.
It's like they made a certain number of parts and used them up before they
changed to the correct part.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth A. Craig
To:
Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 10:38 PM
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - '57-'60 F-100 owners out there???


> I have a '59 F100 4x4 that came with a '60 hood. I bought it about a year
> ago. The vin number identifies it as a '59 and the grille is a '59. I
> bought a '59 F250 for parts that has the normal '59 grille and hood. The
> ford-truck web site has pictures of several '57-'60 pickups.
>
> The Ford Pickup Red Book lists the changes in 1960 as follows: "The 1960
> pickups featured a new grille that incorporated quad headlight bezels.
The
> hood also got new sculpturing and new side ornamentation. Several minor
> improvements appeared, such as modified door latches, new door seals, a
> redesigned armrest, a redesigned wiring harness with multiplug sockets,
and
> a cowlside fuse box and circuit breaker box."
>
> Ken Craig
> '53 F100 on loan
> '59 F100 4x4
> '64 T-Bird
>
> -----Original Message-----
> hi my name is mark and i also have a 59' ford. my truck looks a little
> different then most of the 59' trucks that you see. mine looks more like a
> 60 then a 59' if there is any way that you could please send me a picture
of
> yours that so that i could see what it looks like it would be greatly....


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