pre61-list-digest Monday, April 19 1999 Volume 03 : Number 112



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In this issue:

RE: FTE Pre61 - Wire Feed or MIG Welders
FTE Pre61 - dash gauges
FTE Pre61 - 351w dipstick
Re: FTE Pre61 - What V8???
Re: FTE Pre61 - 55 restoration
Re: FTE Pre61 - dash gauges
FTE Pre61 - Re: What V8 will drop into a '53 F100
FTE Pre61 - armrests for 1951 F1
FTE Pre61 - '57-'60 F-100 owners out there???
FTE Pre61 - Re- Radial tires
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site updates
FTE Pre61 - Our Presence at PF
FTE Pre61 - FE to Effie swap

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 07:42:50 -0500
From: "Rich Garber"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Wire Feed or MIG Welders

>
> While I'm at it, Northern Tool (www.northern-online.com) has a Schumacker
> wire feed welder that runs off of 110V for $169. This seems like a great
> deal, but I know you get what you pay for. I've seen some Mig
> setups in our
> local want ads for around $200. What's a
> I've-got-to-do-it-all-myself kinda
> guy going to do??
>
> Glenn,

Don't waste your money. Take the $169 and save it. I bought a mig last
year. For about $600 I have everything I need, including an electronic
helmet.(If you never welded before, like me, Get the helmet) I can now
lay a bead like the best of them. I have a Daytona mig 888. There web
site is daytonamig. I can't say enough about this company, from
choosing the welder to customer service. The sell refurbished through
the web.

Rich 54 F100

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:39:37 EDT
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - dash gauges

I am looking for someone to refurbish my dash gauges on my '52. I have heard
of United Speedometer Service in Riverside, California. They had a write up
in one of my old truck mags and they say they can repaint the gauges and put
modern electronic movements in them to replace the old gauges. Has anyone
ever used them? I was curious as to how good they were. I would like to look
at doing this as opposed to relying on the old gauges, senders, and having to
install a 12 volt-to-6 volt regulator.

Thanks,
Paul
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:53:30 +0000
From: Kevin Coughlin
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 351w dipstick

I had to put a rear sump pan on the 351w I put in my 54 F100. I need a
dipstick for the pan (drivers side). Does anyone know what veh this
setup was used in from the factory so I can try to get one from a
junkyard?

Thanks,

Kevin

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:02:54 EDT
From: Taer2 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - What V8???

Regarding front sumps and rear sumps, I'm currently in the process of fitting
a 302 out of a 5ltr. '88 mustang. Also staying with a manual, call me what
you want, but driving a classic with an automatic just loses something for
me. I went with the mustang II clip, and so far can give you these tips.
Chevy S-10 tail housing is needed to move the shifter "up" toward normal
position. Also, I'm now in the process of finding the right Bronco pan to
swap out with the stock Mustang pan. Seems that the mustang front sump
"chin" interferes with my crossmember and steering rack. The Bronco
apparently doesn't have the front sump and will give me room to get my motor
level with some clearance between the front of the pan and the rack and
pinion. Otherwise, the tranny lines up pretty close to the original mounts
(minor modifications at best) and from there it's just a matter of 12v
conversion and getting her on the road. Hope this helped to some extent.

eric - '52 f-1
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:34:13 -0400
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 55 restoration

Jason,
Don't have a 6. but, I have a '54 "Y" Block V/8 with trans and rear end...
was running fine when pulled. It's in Michigan. $300. for all.

Fred

Jason Piccola wrote:

> I have been looking at the posts over the past few months and the
> majority of them deal with upgrading engines or other components to make
> these trucks street rods. In my case, I am restoring a 55' F-250 stake
> to original. Some of you who are not keeping your trucks original might
> have one part that I need: An engine. I currently have a 215 in my
> truck. I is not the original motor. I need a 223 ci motor. Maybe one
> of you has an old "wimpy" stock 6 cyl that you pulled from your truck.
>
> Thank for your help.
> Jason Piccola
> 55' Ford
>
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:40:06 -0400
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - dash gauges

They're on the back cover of Rod & Custom in April. Looks like great stuff.
Their web site is www.speedometershop.com.

Fred

PWPTRUCK1 aol.com wrote:

> I am looking for someone to refurbish my dash gauges on my '52. I have heard
> of United Speedometer Service in Riverside, California. They had a write up
> in one of my old truck mags and they say they can repaint the gauges and put
> modern electronic movements in them to replace the old gauges. Has anyone
> ever used them? I was curious as to how good they were. I would like to look
> at doing this as opposed to relying on the old gauges, senders, and having to
> install a 12 volt-to-6 volt regulator.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:57:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: What V8 will drop into a '53 F100

Sorry Dennis,
I didn't know that Ford put a Windsor into a 4x4. In
that case I would certainly include they 351W as a
candidate to drop into an old truck, mainly because of
the availability of aftermarket parts for the Windsor
engines. By the way I know a source for a 289 and a
302 block, crank, and heads. To anyone who is located
near San Jose Ca. and is interested, send me an e-mail
and I'll get the details to you.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V


Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:18:02 -0700
From: "Dennis R. Fischer"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: What V8 will drop into a
'53 F100?
Well, it doesnt eliminate all of the 351W's. I have a
86 4x4 that came
stock with a rear sump 351W. Manual trans by the way.


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Do You Yahoo!?

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:17:29 EDT
From: SJablecki aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - armrests for 1951 F1

Does any body have a pair or the left one for a 1951 F1 truck? Stan
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:11:55 -0400
From: "Gayland Crutchfield"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - '57-'60 F-100 owners out there???

Hi! I'm new to the list and just wanted to check and see if there are any
'57 to '60 F-100 owners/rebuilders out there who would like to keep in
touch. My son and I are rebuilding a '59 stepside. It seems to be the
hardest to find parts for. Maybe we could trade advice, parts, or whatever.
See ya,
Crutch

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:51:03 +0000
From: Hardware Boy
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re- Radial tires

Tony,
I've got a '49 F-3 that still had the original tires on it when I got
it!! I was only able to put up with that kind of vibration for one season
before I had to go to some radials. Putting radials on the original rims
wasn't an option for me because no one around me would touch split rims.
My biggest problem was that in the early '60's was the last time anyone
used 17 inch rims on a factory vehicle. (Winnibago, I believe) I had to
go with some 16.5 solid wheels because the 16's wouldn't clear the rear
drums. This shouldn't be a problem for you tho. In the 2 years since
then, I found an even better solution - Coker tire makes a solid 17 inch
rim that will give me back the 2 inches of height I lost, AND the
original hubcaps will fit. An F-1 will give you more options than I had
but this should give you some Ideas. I can't find Coker's catalog, but
they have a very good site at : http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://WWW.COKER.COM/
Check 'em out.
Good luck,
Mike Wright



Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:45:33 EDT
From: TonyDePaul aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - radial tires

Hello to all,

>From time to time, owners of '48-'52 F-1's have written about their
experiences in running radial tires. I'd appreciate any specific advice
on
brand, tread design, how they handle, etc. I intend to use them mainly
for
highway travel at a sane 55-60 mph.

I hear it's a bad idea to run radials on the original wheels. A couple of

mine don't run as true as they should anyway, so I plan to buy five new
ones.
It would be nice if they'd take the original hubcaps, but I'm not fussy
about
that. I'd appreciate any information you may have on vendors and price.

Many thanks,

Tony
'49 F-1

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:35:18 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site updates

- - Ford press release added to news section
- - Following added to pictorial:
1948 F6 fire engine
1956 F100
1956 F100
1966 F350
1985 F150 XLT Lariat 4x4
1995 F150 XLT
1996 F250 HD
1999 F350 Superduty Crewcab
- - Several links added to links sections

Later,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:21:40 -0400
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Our Presence at PF

Hey, Ken!

What do we need to bring along for out half of the booth, Ken? We need
to at least appear to be compentent! Appearances can be deceiving, you
know?
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Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
innaccesible part of the vehicle."

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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:20:21 -0500
From: "Brett L. Habben"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - FE to Effie swap

Fordman,
If you keep spouting off with that kind of helpful information I may just
have to make you my new best friend.
20 years ago I spent a couple years trying to 'improve' a '74 360,
finally gave up and swapped in a '70 390 4V. Great power, but I never
could appreciably improve the fuel economy.
If an FE will bolt right in there, then I have some questions about FE's.
Anyway, theoretically speaking, what magical combination of FE parts,
stock or aftermarket, would you assemble for a pickup if your goals were
in this order: 1.) Economy 2.) Longevity/Durability. 3.) Power sufficient
to once in a blue moon pull a car hauler loaded with 4000 lb. car.
Could said FE equal or surpass the fuel economy of say a 351W? This
wouldn't be a Hot Rod, and I would not be offended by something as small
as a 332. Or should I just blow off the whole FE idea and run something
else? 351W? 292? 300 6?
Thanks for any info,
Brett


>Bo,
>Do you currently have a V-8 in it now? If you have a 272 or 292 you can
take a 332 bell housing and
>mount a 390, 428 directly to the stock mounts with NO modifications! A
direct bolt in using all FORD
>parts. Need I say more? Ford also made a 302 in the late fifties. Check
it out.
>96 F150 SC 4x4
>76 F150 4x4 LB stepside
>75 F250 4x4 LB stepside
>59 F250 4x4 frame/running gear only
>60 2wd F100
>58 2wd F100
>2 59 panels for resto.
>95 T-bird LX V8
>2 FORD riding mowers
>and a dog named Bronco and
>his sidekick Ranger!
>Fordman

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