pre61-list-digest Friday, January 15 1999 Volume 03 : Number 011



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Not your everyday request
FTE Pre61 - Fuel Tank
FTE Pre61 - Towing
Re: FTE Pre61 - Cleveland Questions??
FTE Pre61 - Clleveland oil pan
RE: FTE Pre61 - Towing
FTE Pre61 - 12 volt to 6 volt conversion
FTE Pre61 - Hight output oil pump
RE: FTE Pre61 - Cleveland Questions??
FTE Pre61 - Re: Wooden Running Boards & YBlock 312
Re: FTE Pre61 - Fuel Tank
FTE Pre61 - '51 Fenders
FTE Pre61 - 1949 F1 in The Netherlands - Belgium - Germany
Re: FTE Pre61 - Not your everyday request
FTE Pre61 - Color of parking lights 56
FTE Pre61 - Re: Color of parking lights 56
FTE Pre61 - (no subject)
Re: FTE Pre61 - (no subject)

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:40:25 EST
From: "Donadio, Paul J."
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Not your everyday request

Fellow truck enthusiatis,

I am a 50-year who is probably going thru a mid-life crisis.
I have been a college professor since the age of 23 and am
completely BURNED OUT! My love for automobiles, on the other
hand, goes back to my pre-teen years and is stronger than ever.

So what's the point? I am ready for a new life. I want to learn
how to do ground up auto restoration and am hoping that someone
out there can assist me in finding an apprenticeship which will
enable me to fulfill my dream.

I currently reside 75 miles north of NYC. However, other than
having a house to sell and an academic year to complete, I have
nothing holding me back so relocation would not be a problem.
My only requirement is that the apprenticeship pay a living
wage.

Thanks in advance for any help and advice. By the way, I already
have a good therapist!

Paul
59 F-100 Custom Cab
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:14:47 -0800
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Fuel Tank

Has anyone had any experience with relocating the fuel tank on the slant
cabs(53-55) from the side to between the rear frame rails? I would like to
do this without moving the rear cross member.

If you have, what kind of tank did you use and what was the capacity?

If that's not possible, I'm going to install a 20 gal aluminum fuel cell in
the bed, any recommendations?

Thanks for your help.

Dennis
55F100

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:27:33 PST
From: "John Harrison"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Towing

Looking for someone to haul 1954 Panel Delivery ( not running but rolls)
from Boone N.C. to Ft. Lauderdale or close by. Could meet you with
truck & trailer


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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:33:31 +0000
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Cleveland Questions??

I've had good luck finding "performance" parts at Summit Racing. They have
low prices and most brand names. they are on the web and have a big
catalog.

"David M. Ackerschott" wrote:

> I am in the process of installing a mustang II front end in my 53 Ford
> F100 pickup, Today i was told with my 351 Cleveland motor I will need To
> get a Rearsump oil pan, the only place i can locate one is Milodon and
> they want $400.00 for the pan only.... as anybody had this problem and
> is there other way???? thanks dddavid
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:43:10 PST
From: "John Harrison"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Clleveland oil pan

Had same problem. Late 70's thru mid 80's Bronco 4 X 4 with 351/400 M
eng should have pan you need. They're expensive through dealer, try to
get one from wrecking yard. Be sure to get oil pump pick-up too. Good
luck.

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:05:04 -0500
From: "Howard Tarnoff"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Towing

depending on how soon, perhaps could help.

I have a 24' enclosed haulmark that I use for my 55 F100. At the end of the
school year i am going down to west palm to bring my daughter and her car
home.

if not in a rush let me know.

howard

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Looking for someone to haul 1954 Panel Delivery ( not running but rolls)
from Boone N.C. to Ft. Lauderdale or close by. Could meet you with
truck & trailer


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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:21:18 EST
From: SJablecki aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 12 volt to 6 volt conversion

I have a F 1951 1 that has been converted to 12 volt (still pos. ground). If I
change it to neg. ground, will the gauges be affected. Does there have to be
a power reducer between the battery and the gauges: Stan
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:22:48 -0600
From: "MARK AMES"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Hight output oil pump

I was wondering if there is a high output oil pump avalible for the Ford =
Y-block motor? Does anyone have an address or phone number for a company =
that has this?=20

56Merc

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:38:00 -0500
From: "Mcat"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Cleveland Questions??

I debated about putting a cleveland in my 53 victoria, I called my local
ford dealer and he told me the pan alone was $206. My discount brought it
down to $159.00. You still need to buy the pickup tube and main bolt which
brings me back to the $200, neighborhood. Plus the dipstick and tube which
is 30-40 dollars. Stillcheaper than $400 for just an aftermarket pan. Garry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of David M.
> Ackerschott
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:49 AM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Cleveland Questions??
>
>
> I am in the process of installing a mustang II front end in my 53 Ford
> F100 pickup, Today i was told with my 351 Cleveland motor I will need To
> get a Rearsump oil pan, the only place i can locate one is Milodon and
> they want $400.00 for the pan only.... as anybody had this problem and
> is there other way???? thanks dddavid
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:13:14 PST
From: "Andy Vandergrift"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Wooden Running Boards & YBlock 312

Wooden Running Boards

I have seen in a few of the magazines about Wooden Running Boards. They
look really sharp. Does anyone know of anyone that has done that so I
could get the plans?

Also, my 55 effie has a YBlock 312 with a BW 2 Speed Automatic. The
engine is really healthy - I would almost like to keep it. I spoke to a
guy in OR who was about to make bell housing for the 312 to mate up to a
c4/c6 tranny. Does anyone know about this? Does anyone have ANY
suggestions? Thanks in Advance. Andy

Old Blue

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:45:18 +0000
From: Fred g 454
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Fuel Tank

Mid-fifties catalog has one (stainless steel) that has an indent for the rear
crossmember. As I recall it's about $400. No-Limit engineering also has a
tank, but they say you have to move the crosmember also. I moved mine back
about six inches to fit an Isuzu Trooper tank in... took about an hour or so.
Drilled out the rivits, slid it back and used grade 8 bolts to re-install.

Fred
Hot rod '56

"O'Connell, Dennis M" wrote:

> Has anyone had any experience with relocating the fuel tank on the slant
> cabs(53-55) from the side to between the rear frame rails? I would like to
> do this without moving the rear cross member.
>
> If you have, what kind of tank did you use and what was the capacity?
>
> If that's not possible, I'm going to install a 20 gal aluminum fuel cell in
> the bed, any recommendations?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Dennis
> 55F100
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:13:30 -0500
From: ffa tiac.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - '51 Fenders

Speaking of fenders

I am trying to located good solid fenders for a F-6 1951 1 1/2 ton
preferably in the New England area

Can anyone point the way??
>

>

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:54:30 +0100
From: Karel Crombach
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 1949 F1 in The Netherlands - Belgium - Germany

Hi there. I live in the Netherlands and recently bought a 1949 F1 straight
from Texas USA. I am currently in the middle of the restoring process and
like to get in touch with F1 enthousiasts in The Netherlands, Belgium of
Germany. Please let me know who you are and where you are. I already got a
lot of usefull reactions from the USA. I look forward to receiving your
reply. Regards, Karel Crombach

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Karel CrombachPhone+31(0)45,5242554
Stationstraat 297GSM +31(0)6,54324594
6361 BH NuthOffice+31(0)43,3524200

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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:59:27 PST
From: "Andy D"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Not your everyday request

We need to get together I want to start a restoration business. I get
out of the Marine Corps in Sept Oct time frame.

Andy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
ICQ# 13179729
70 F-100,360 2v (soon to be 4v),C/6
56 F-600,272 2v (soon to be factory 4v),4speed
56 F-100 Bigwindow,223 1v,3speed

>Fellow truck enthusiatis,
>
>I am a 50-year who is probably going thru a mid-life crisis.
>I have been a college professor since the age of 23 and am
>completely BURNED OUT! My love for automobiles, on the other
>hand, goes back to my pre-teen years and is stronger than ever.
>
>So what's the point? I am ready for a new life. I want to learn
>how to do ground up auto restoration and am hoping that someone
>out there can assist me in finding an apprenticeship which will
>enable me to fulfill my dream.
>
>I currently reside 75 miles north of NYC. However, other than
>having a house to sell and an academic year to complete, I have
>nothing holding me back so relocation would not be a problem.
>My only requirement is that the apprenticeship pay a living
>wage.
>
>Thanks in advance for any help and advice. By the way, I already
>have a good therapist!
>
>Paul
>59 F-100 Custom Cab




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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:24:24 -0800
From: denanken oneworld.owt.com (david neumayer)
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Color of parking lights 56

HI,

I enjoy reading all of the posts. I'm getting ready to paint my grill on
my 56 F100. I'm am using Colonial white on the grill and wheels. I
thought that the parking light frames were also to be this same white, but
I saw and old photo of this truck and the frames appear black. Does anyone
know if white or black is correct? Also, I am curious what kind of paint
is good for the grill. The truck is yellow in PPG Concept. Any
suggestions? Also would like to thank those who suggested marine spar
uethane for my bed boards. It looks great!! Thanks!

Dave

"Old Yeller" 56 F100


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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:35:39 PST
From: "Andy D"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Color of parking lights 56

>I enjoy reading all of the posts. I'm getting ready to paint my grill
on
>my 56 F100. I'm am using Colonial white on the grill and wheels. I
>thought that the parking light frames were also to be this same white,
but
>I saw and old photo of this truck and the frames appear black. Does
anyone
>know if white or black is correct

Most of the 56 Effies I have seen and the 2 I own have the light frames
painted the same color as the grill (to included chrome on chrome). The
only other variation I have seen has been chrome frames with painted
grills (on show street rods never on stock trucks). One of mine is
black on black the other is chrome on chrome. The chrome on chrome is
original on a custom cab, the black on black I am not sure.


Andy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
ICQ# 13179729
70 F-100,360 2v (soon to be 4v),C/6
56 F-600,272 2v (soon to be factory 4v),4speed
56 F-100 Bigwindow,223 1v,3speed


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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:42:15 EST
From: MichellHC aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - (no subject)

Hi David,

I you can get a oil pan from a four wheel drive Ford truck, or a Bronco with a
351M, or 400 cid engine. These trucks all had rear sump pans, and the 351M and
400 pans will fit a Cleveland.

Michelle
Chelle's 56 Hauler
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:11:07 -0500
From: "David M. Ackerschott"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - (no subject)

MichellHC aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> I you can get a oil pan from a four wheel drive Ford truck, or a Bronco with a
> 351M, or 400 cid engine. These trucks all had rear sump pans, and the 351M and
> 400 pans will fit a Cleveland.
>
> Michelle
> Chelle's 56 Hauler
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Hi Michelle, I haven't talked to you for a while, thanks for the info in
there a way you can check around for the pan, I would send you the money
and the shipping cost. I can't find one so let me know if you can find....

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