pre61-list-digest Monday, January 4 1999 Volume 02 : Number 365



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - '56 fan shrouds
Re: FTE Pre61 - '56 fan shrouds
FTE Pre61 - re:F-3 parking brake
FTE Pre61 - Great truck book
FTE Pre61 - '52 3 speed to a 302??
RE: FTE Pre61 - Powerplant swap
FTE Pre61 - Re: emergency brake lining
Re: FTE Pre61 - Great truck book
FTE Pre61 - Re: FTE Pre61- F-3 parking brake
Re: FTE Pre61 - '52 3 speed to a 302??
FTE Pre61 - F-3 Parking Brake
FTE Pre61 - Rust removal

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 08:02:41 -0500
From: "JOHN D. & ELAINE JESSE"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '56 fan shrouds

mike omlin wrote:
>
> I'm setting a 429 big block in a '56 and I'm wondering what peoples
> experience with fan shrouds are....I'm in the pacific northwest so it
> doesn't get real hot...the way the motor is mounted it's about 3/4 in.
> from the fan to the radiator....If I run the shroud I'll have to cut
> some of it back to clear the alternator pulley and crank pully(about 1/2
> in.)....would just as soon leave the shroud alone and put it on the
> shelf......any input would be appreciated....
> thanks in advance
> Mike Omlin
> somewhere near Seattle
>
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Mike, I am also building a 56 with a 429 in it. I am using a 75 LINCOLN
radiator. shroud and A/C coil. Some modifications were necessary. If
youi need more info let me know. I have been through quite a bit with
this installation. I think the only thing that is original is 1/2 the
cab. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Jack Jesse in Florida
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 08:08:04 -0500
From: "JOHN D. & ELAINE JESSE"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '56 fan shrouds

mike omlin wrote:
>
> I'm setting a 429 big block in a '56 and I'm wondering what peoples
> experience with fan shrouds are....I'm in the pacific northwest so it
> doesn't get real hot...the way the motor is mounted it's about 3/4 in.
> from the fan to the radiator....If I run the shroud I'll have to cut
> some of it back to clear the alternator pulley and crank pully(about 1/2
> in.)....would just as soon leave the shroud alone and put it on the
> shelf......any input would be appreciated....
> thanks in advance
> Mike Omlin
> somewhere near Seattle
>
> ______________________________________________________
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Mike, I am also putting a 429 in a 56 f-100. I am using a 75 lincoln
Mark IV radiator, shroud and A/C coil. Modifications were necessary.
Holler at me if you want more info. I've gone thru quite alot of mods to
the truck to accomadate the 429.HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Jack Jesse
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 10:58:41 -0800
From: "Abram H. Stauffer"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - re:F-3 parking brake

Paul, Try one of these used parts suppliers:
Gilly's Parts:http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.gillys.com/welcome.html
Street Rod Heaven: email: noniea ridgecrest.ca.us
or check the classifieds.
Abe
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 11:10:47 -0800
From: "Abram H. Stauffer"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Great truck book

Ford Truck Enthusiasts:
Hope you had a good Christmas! I did. For a lot of reasons, least of
which was a book I got that I must pass on to you. My loving wife bought
me "Ford Trucks since 1905" by James K. Wagner. She bought this at
Barnes and Noble. It is also available from Motorbooks International. It
is very thorough. It has many pictures, of all sizes and series. It
shows real trucks at work, not just Ford promotion pictures. Of course I
am not that interested in the early trucks or the very late trucks. But
there is plenty for all kind of truck lovers. I learned so much more
about the '53-'56 trucks that it was well worth the price. For those of
you who are into the bigger trucks like Ray and Michelle I would
strongly recommend it. It probably has more pictures and just as much
info about them as it does the F-100's.
Order it today, you won't be disappointed.
Abe '54 F-100
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:22:22 -0500
From: "Bob"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - '52 3 speed to a 302??

I have seen several adapters for using a c4 or c6 auto transmission with
the original flathead, but has anyone seen an adapter for using the stock
3-on-the-tree with a 302??? I have a '52 f1 that my son & I are working on,
and we want to keep it as original as practical. We would like to swap out
the flathead (it's long since seen its last day) with a 302 (its free, but
needs to be rebuilt).

Thanks


Bob
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 13:46:36 -0800
From: "Kenneth A. Craig"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Powerplant swap

I have a 59 4x4 that I want to do the same thing to. I have a 390 with a C6
being rebuilt right now. I will have it back at the end of the month and
will start fitting it then. In addition to Nate's questions, I wonder what
modifications should be made to the transmission?(shift points, torque
converter etc.) ..... Ken Craig

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[mailto:owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Adams
Sent:Friday, January 01, 1999 5:07 AM
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Cc:nateadams hotmail.com
Subject:FTE Pre61 - Powerplant swap

I have a 58 pickup which had the 292 motor and manual tranny. I havein it
now and I want to put a C6 transmission in it. Has anyone out there ever
done such a swapout? The 390 fits o.k., but I don't know whether the C6 will
fit without cutting the fire wall and inside sheet metal...any info is
appreciated. Nate


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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 17:34:18 -0500
From: Ed
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: emergency brake lining

I think that Job Lot on Long Island has them. Remember, the lining for
an F-2 or F-3 is not the same as the F-5 and F-6.
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 23:59:20 -0000
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Great truck book

Thanks for the birthday present request suggestion Abe!
ray
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On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 11:10:47 Abram H. Stauffer wrote:
>Ford Truck Enthusiasts:
>Hope you had a good Christmas! I did. For a lot of reasons, least of
>which was a book I got that I must pass on to you. My loving wife bought
>me "Ford Trucks since 1905" by James K. Wagner. She bought this at
>Barnes and Noble. It is also available from Motorbooks International. It
>is very thorough. It has many pictures, of all sizes and series. It
>shows real trucks at work, not just Ford promotion pictures. Of course I
>am not that interested in the early trucks or the very late trucks. But
>there is plenty for all kind of truck lovers. I learned so much more
>about the '53-'56 trucks that it was well worth the price. For those of
>you who are into the bigger trucks like Ray and Michelle I would
>strongly recommend it. It probably has more pictures and just as much
>info about them as it does the F-100's.
>Order it today, you won't be disappointed.
>Abe '54 F-100
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>


Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 21:56:46 -0800
From: "John L. Latsha"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: FTE Pre61- F-3 parking brake

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FTE Pre61 - F-3 parking brake

From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - F-3 parking brake
>
> I am in need of the parking brake "shoe" or the lining ring for a '52 F-3.
> It is on the back of a 4-speed transmission. This brake is different from the
> F-1's. The F-1's utilize the rear brake drums for it's parking brake system,
> but my F-3 has a drum mounted at the back of the transmission where the
> driveshaft bolts on. My brake lining is worn out and I need another one.
> Anyone know who supplies these parts?
> Thanks in advance,
> Paul
> '52 F-3


>Paul,
>
>I'm not sure, but possibly Dennis Carpenter may have something. Also, I
>have a '53 F-100 and I got all the brake parts at Pep Boys, including
>linings, master cylinder repair kit and wheel cylinder repair kits.
>Here in central Pennsylvania we have a ton of auto parts stores. Maybe
>Pep Boys or AA or Napa, etc. may have parts for your F-3. Also, if you
>have a Ford dealer in your area that has been in business for a long
>time they may be able to help. They may not have the part, but they'll
>be able to get you the part number, which may be useful.
>
>Good luck!
>
>John L.
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:06:34 EST
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '52 3 speed to a 302??

In a message dated 1/3/1999 3:26:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
wmoore magicnet.net writes:

> I have seen several adapters for using a c4 or c6 auto transmission with
> the original flathead, but has anyone seen an adapter for using the stock
> 3-on-the-tree with a 302??? I have a '52 f1 that my son & I are working on,
> and we want to keep it as original as practical. We would like to swap out
> the flathead (it's long since seen its last day) with a 302 (its free, but
> needs to be rebuilt).
>
I had a 289 mated to a 4spd crashbox in a 52, and I still have the aluminum
flywheel and bellhousing adaptor. I suspect the tranny mounting bolt patterns
are the same. Memory fails me, but I think I had the 289 and adaptor with the
original 3spd first, then the 4 speed. Can't quite remember if I put in the
4spd before the 289 ... geez, growin' old is hell. Let me know what add'l
info I can dig up for you.
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 21:17:48 -0600
From: Chandler
Subject: FTE Pre61 - F-3 Parking Brake

> The F-1's utilize the rear brake drums for it's parking brake system,
> but my F-3 has a drum mounted at the back of the transmission where the
> driveshaft bolts on. My brake lining is worn out and I need another one.
> Anyone know who supplies these parts?
> Thanks in advance,
> Paul
> '52 F-3
Most places have a shop that specialize in brake and clutch linings.
Look in the phone book for "brake and clutch repair or rebuilding". take
your band to them and they can put a new lining on it for a very
reasonable charge. These types of brakes are very commom on forklifts,
winches etc. I have had several done with good results.
Don Chandler
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:27:00 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Rust removal

Last week someone turned me on to a very interesting article
on electrolytic rust removal and I got the authors permission
to link it to my website.

If you've got stuff that's rusty, and you wish it wasn't, you
might find this article to be an interesting read...

It's at the bottom of my "tech links" page...

Steve
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty

Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to
recognize a mistake when you make it again.
-- F. P. Jones....


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