pre61-list-digest Saturday, January 2 1999 Volume 02 : Number 363



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Powerplant swap
FTE Pre61 - Re: Frnt Wobble
RE: FTE Pre61 - Throttle Linkage Needed
RE: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP
RE: FTE Pre61 - Re:
RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting
Re: FTE Pre61 - Throttle Linkage Needed
RE: FTE Pre61 - Throttle Linkage Needed
FTE Pre61 - Bumped into a Bad Steer
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site updates
Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP

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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 05:07:03 PST
From: "Nathan Adams"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Powerplant swap

I have a 58 pickup which had the 292 motor and manual tranny. I havein
it now and I want to put a C6 transmission in it. Has anyone out there
ever done such a swapout? The 390 fits o.k., but I don't know whether
the C6 will fit without cutting the fire wall and inside sheet
metal...any info is appreciated. Nate

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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 08:57:15 EST
From: STUDJAMES aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Frnt Wobble

Karl,
My 54 F100 was doing the same thing. Turned out I had to replace the king pins
and bushings on the front springs. What a difference it made! Good Luck.

Jim Jordan


Karl Cunningham
karlc jps.net
1960 F250 factory 4x4 w/292


>Can anyone explain to me what might be the cause of my '60 F-100 going
>beserk in the front wheels by wobbling extremely to the point of almost
>loss of control after going over a bump in the road on the freeway?..
>
>Today I was driving along the freeway at 60mph and went over a bump and
>then as if it hit just right for the front wheels to go into a radical
>wobble dance that forced me to just brake as swiftly as possible and
>pull over ... it wobbled extremely until I finally stopped ... but,
>when I visually checked, everything seemed as usual. I then got off the
>freeway and drove home under 35mph without any reoccurances. Anyone
>experience this before?

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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:39:54 -0600
From: "Rich Garber"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Throttle Linkage Needed

>
> A former owner of my 55F100 installed an aftermarket Motorcraft carb with
> the throttle control on the left side of the carb. In doing this the
> correct throttle linkage was discarded.
>
> I am desperate here in that the World of Wheels show is January 9th! If
> anyone is replacing their Y-block and can provide me with the entire carb
> linkage set up...all rods, springs, mounting clips and hardware,
> carb return
> spring and bracket, you would go to the top of my Nice Person list.
>
Howard,

Did you try the yard, where your oil bath was found?

French Lake 320-274-8497

Rich
54 F100
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:39:56 -0600
From: "Rich Garber"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP

> -----Original Message-----
> Hello Folks.....need your thoughts: just installed an original
> radio w/proper
> wiring, works fine when engine if OFF and key is on ACC.
> However, when engine
> is running I am getting horrible engine noise thru speakers.
> Have suppressors
> on coil, ignition and regulator with very little difference. ANY IDEAS?
> thanks, bill
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According to the manual, there are alot of ground straps that need to be
installed, and a few condensers as well.

Rich
54 F100
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:39:55 -0600
From: "Rich Garber"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Re:

>
> Glenn,
> Nothing lasts forever. Since you've got the frame exposed you
> might as well
> sandblast it. Down to the metal and give it a good coat of
> self-etching primer
> and your final color. It'd be nice 40 more years.-Kent

Make sure you prep the frame, before you paint it. I used
a acid wash on the sandblasted frame (never leave this step
out! It will ensure a good bond for the primer, removing all
dirt and will kill all rust) used corrless (eastwood) and
then chassis black (eastwood). Looks great and is very solid.

Rich
54 F100
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:10:41 -0500
From: Ethan Vos
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

Thanks. I'll call them this week.

Ethan


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From:Andy D [SMTP:a70f100ford hotmail.com]
Sent:December 31, 1998 6:19 PM
To:pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Subject:RE: FTE Pre61 - Restarting

Ethan
I checked on the front fenders off of the 56 F-600 today. They are in
real good shape from what I saw. They might need some work where they
bolt to the radiator air side deflectors. I did not get to look at that
too well because I got called to a fire. (I'm a volunteer fire fighter)
The Junk yard that has them is Babson Auto Salvage in Burgaw North
Carolina (910)259-4678. If they will not send them to you let me know
and I will see what I can do. (If you want them)



Andy
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/7464
icq # 13179729
70 F-100,360 2v (soon to be 4v),C/6
56 F-600,272 2v (soon to be factory 4v),4speed
56 F-100 Bigwindow,223 1v,3speed


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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:29:54 EST
From: Fordf3 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Throttle Linkage Needed

Where is the world of wheels show
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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:43:18 -0500
From: "Howard Tarnoff"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Throttle Linkage Needed

It is in Boston, MA at the Bayside Expo Center January 7-9. It is an ISCA
Show.

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Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Throttle Linkage Needed


Where is the world of wheels show
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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 11:00:40 -0800
From: Tulio
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Bumped into a Bad Steer

Thanks for this good advice from both parties. Though Karl I believe
you show a very good knowledge of this problem. I did check yesterday
the steering box for tightness. I found it did need some adjusting and
sure, it steers more precisely. I also went to check on shock prices.
But, most significantly I found that on my other '60 parts truck it had
a front stabilizer bar to it that my restored '60 does not have. I will
be exchanging the entire front end of that other truck plus transferring
any good parts off the one now installed on my restored truck.
Hopefully I will end up with a total front end package of tightened gear
box, new shocks and front stabilizer bar to resolve this. And I have
already a power steering ram and valve body that is slotted to be
installed onto my '60 soon so that will act as a steering dampener when
that is on I am told. A bum steer is not a funny thing to have happen
going 60mph!!


> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:47:10 -0800
> From: Karl Cunningham
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Bumped into Bad Steer
>
> My '60 used to do this and it turned out to be a combination of things:
>
> 1. Loose steering gear. This was the biggest culprit. You can adjust it,
> although on mine I had to replace the gears because they were too far gone.
> To adjust it according to the book, you first take off the pitman arm.
> Then as you turn the steering wheel slowly from lock to lock you may feel a
> slight resistance when it is turned through the straight-ahead region.
> This resistance is called the worm and sector preload. You adjust the gear
> by first loosening the lock nut on the adjustment screw, which is on the
> steering gear on the opposite side from the sector shaft (the shaft the
> pitman arm connects to). Then turn the adjustment screw in small amounts
> (clockwise makes it tighter) as you keep checking the preload. The proper
> adjustment is when it takes about 1 pound of force to turn the steering
> wheel past the stiffest part. When you've got it, carefully tighten the
> lock nut while holding the screw to make sure it doesn't turn. It usually
> will turn so you may have to do it a couple of times to get it right.
> Don't get it too tight as this may chip the gears if you hit a big pothole.
> And too loose will contribute to the problem you are having.
>
> The steering gear is constructed so that the tightest part of the preload
> is when the wheels are pointing straight ahead. If your truck has been in
> a wreck and the front end is tweaked, straight ahead for the steering gear
> may not be straight ahead for the truck. If this is the case, adjusting
> the steering gear won't help since you'll be driving in a loose part of the
> steering gear's range anyway.
>
> 2. Worn king pins and bushings or wheel bearings. Jack up the front
> wheels and see if they are loose.
>
> 3. Other worn suspension parts such as tie-rod ends, spring bushings, etc.
>
> If everything is tight, tires that are way out of balance and bad shocks
> shouldn't cause the thing to go into the wild wobbling you are seeing.
>
> If all else fails, install a steering dampener. Kits are available at most
> larger auto parts stores. It's a small shock absorber that connects
> between the axle and tie rod and dampenes any vibration. This may be a
> good bet if you don't want to go through the other stuff, although it can
> cover up other problems.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Karl Cunningham
> karlc jps.net
> 1960 F250 factory 4x4 w/292

> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 08:23:34 -0000
> From: "Ray Cardogno"
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Bumped into Bad Steer
>
> I still say a relatively inexpensive replacement of good quality shocks is *probably* all you need to do unless things are really worn. Been there a few times with no excessive wear on front end components. Does your front end bounce more than once after hitting a dip in the road? Another indicator of bad shocks.
>
> Good info on the steering by the way Karl.

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Tulio Solorzano
'60 F-100 Custom Cab
'79 HD Sportster
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Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 16:23:58 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site updates

1. 47 new pictures added to pictorial. Two new pictorial sections created
(One for Rancheros and the other for 1999+ Superduty's). Over 325
trucks are now featured in our pictorials.

2. Several links added.

3. Classifieds reconfigured to make browsing easier.

Later,
Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 16:17:10 -0600
From: "Byron Rosbrugh"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP

Sounds like you already have several good suggestions, but would advise
referring to page 365, section 2 Radio, in the 56 shop manuel. Suppression
equipment on cowling, use high tension radio lead distributor to coil,
generator condenser, ignition switch condenser, oil gauge condenser, and
fuel gauge condenser are indicated. Hope it works better. Byron

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> From: WBATTE aol.com
> To: owner-pre61-list ford-trucks.com; pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - 56 F-100 Radio HELP
> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 10:27 PM
>
> Hello Folks.....need your thoughts: just installed an original radio
w/proper
> wiring, works fine when engine if OFF and key is on ACC. However, when
engine
> is running I am getting horrible engine noise thru speakers. Have
suppressors
> on coil, ignition and regulator with very little difference. ANY IDEAS?....


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