pre61-list-digest Friday, November 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 320



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Ford F3
Re: FTE Pre61 - Ford F3
FTE Pre61 - STICKY steering wheel
Re: FTE Pre61 - STICKY steering wheel
Re: FTE Pre61 - Howard's brackets
FTE Pre61 - Re: color codes?
FTE Pre61 - Re: Panel Lowering
FTE Pre61 - Re: 223 for 292 Swap
FTE Pre61 - steering wheel style
Re: FTE Pre61 - Ford F3
FTE Pre61 - Heater hoses...which one?
FTE Pre61 - Winter Projects
FTE Pre61 - Dipstick Length
FTE Pre61 - Thanks, Everbody!
Re: FTE Pre61 - Dipstick Length
Re: FTE Pre61 - Thanks, Everbody!
FTE Pre61 - Dipstick Length

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:26:43 PST
From: "Bill Casady"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Ford F3

Looking for an F3 [any year] Body must be in good condition and
should be at least a daily driver. Send picture if you can. Thanks for
your help.


Just Plain Bill :)


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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 07:26:15 -0700
From: Rab
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Ford F3

Bill,
My M135 is for sale. It is complete and in excellent cond. but I haven't
tried to fire it up yet.( I haven't had time to check it out properly.
Price is $1400 Canadian. It can be seen on the FTE member page under Rab
Rawlins.

Rab

Bill Casady wrote:

> Looking for an F3 [any year] Body must be in good condition and
> should be at least a daily driver. Send picture if you can. Thanks for
> your help.
>
> Just Plain Bill :)
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:32:43 -0600
From: "Mitch Miller"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - STICKY steering wheel

I have a problem with my 1946 half-ton steering wheel.

First thing in the morning, after a cool evening, I cannot grab the
steering wheel without getting black stuff on my hands. The steering wheel
is quite STICKY and I have to wear gloves to drive it. Other mornings, no
problem. I suspect that the humidity affects the surface of the well-worn
steering wheel.

Is there a solution for this problem?

Should I paint the wheel or just put on a steering wheel cover?

Does anyone else have this problem?

*Please keep your responses clean. I know there is an almost irresistible
temptation to crack a joke - so keep the list clean and send your humorous
off-colour responses to me personally* mmiller dryden.net

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:36:30 -0500
From: Thomas Teixeira
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - STICKY steering wheel

>I have a problem with my 1946 half-ton steering wheel.
>
>First thing in the morning, after a cool evening, I cannot grab the
>steering wheel without getting black stuff on my hands. The steering wheel
>is quite STICKY and I have to wear gloves to drive it. Other mornings, no
>problem. I suspect that the humidity affects the surface of the well-worn
>steering wheel.
>
>Is there a solution for this problem?
>
>Should I paint the wheel or just put on a steering wheel cover?
>
>Does anyone else have this problem?

I didn't have a problem with gunk on the wheel, but put on a steering wheel
cover anyway. My reason for doing this was to get some padding on the rim
of the wheel: I just used hot water pipe insulation, cut it to length,
wrapped it around the rim and then laced a leather wheel cover. I found
that even the largest stock Wheelskin from JC Whitney was too small (my
wife ended up cutting it and using duct tape to cover the gap, but later
custom ordered a Wheelskin from someone else (I don't know if JC Whitney
will custom order one for you).

If I were to do it over again, I would get slightly thinner foam and
measure the cover to be even more on the tight side.


Tom Teixeira mailto:tjt world.std.com
94 Taurus SHO 5-speed NESHOC/SHO Registry
'66 Mustang convertible (200 cid auto) http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt
'35 Ford Pickup (flathead V8)


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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:43:25 -0700
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Howard's brackets


Howard,
I had trouble with your e-mail coming back at me so I put it here as well. The brackets are on their way priority mail. Hi folks.

Ray C


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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:05:32 -0700
From: DAVID NEUMAYER
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: color codes?

Hi Thanks for all of the great info.

I checked out the classic truck web site and looked at the color codes
for a 56 F100. I was told (on this list) that the 56 gille was to be
snowshoe white. The web site says it is colonial white. Does someone
have the actual book that has the codes? I'm about to paint the rims
and grille but now I'm not sure which white is correct.

Thanks

I'm also interested in reading tips on bed wood installation. And if
any one knows, What is the best finish for the oak bed? Spar? tung
oil???????

I really enjoy reading this list daily.

Thanks agian Guys

Dave "Old Yeller" 56F100
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:21:31 EST
From: OBKBEE aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Panel Lowering

Dan-
"My panel has a volare clip and I want to lower the back end too."
I have a 55' panel with a 75' Cordoba clip. I replaced the main leaf
spring with a reversed eye one I got from Bob's F-100's in Calif
(909)-681-1956, ask for Tom, he's a great help. I also removed the smallest
spring on the bottom. I'm running 31x10.5x15 back tires and the tire is up in
the wheel well about 1 1/2". It looks good and with the 14" Chryslers front
you can adjust your front end height however you like. I like a little rake in
mine so I unscrewed 1 5/8" on the adj. bolt on the lower control arm. As a
result, the bottom of the front bumper is 8" from the ground and the back is
12 1/2. It gives it a bit of the "sleeper look" and it rides great. Any change
in suspension will affect ride characterstics but this is not a big deal. Just
be mindful of maintaining
exact tire pressure all the way around. Hope this helps, best of luck!-Kent
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:03:40 EST
From: RJC988 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 223 for 292 Swap

In a message dated 11/18/98 11:57:10 AM !!!First Boot!!!, owner-pre61-list-
digest ford-trucks.com writes:


Subject: FTE Pre61 - pulling my old engine

It is me again. I have a a 55' F-250 Stake body truck. It currently
has a 6 that is not the original. ( I want to say a 223 CI but I am not
sure.) It looks close to pictures of an original. How would I know
what original engine was in the truck? Could I find this out on the
serial # or other codes listed on the glove box door?

The engine is in good shape and is clean. However it has allot of parts
that will need to be replaced in order to restore it to original
condition. (e.g. the oil filter, fuel line) I want to pull it and get
a 292 V8. I am pretty sure from talking to people that it would bolt up
to the existing transmission. Could I get much money for the existing
engine if I were to trade it in and what would a 292 cost? Also, where
would I find a 292 V8? I hear that they are hard to come by. My goal
is to keep the truck original with parts that were offered during 55.

55' ford
Jason Piccola
Pittsburgh, PA >>

Jason,

There is a shop here in Memphis called Early Ford Parts. The owner was not
even interested in me giving him my old 223 - he said he already had a bunch
of them on hand. He said he did had a few V8's (he did not say what ci.). The
number is 901-323-2179. If you want any pre-59 parts, he has it, some even
original.

Glenn in TN
Soapy the 57 F-100
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:59:29 EST
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - steering wheel style

I have recently purchased another '52 F-3 that has a different steering wheel
than most Ford trucks I have seen. On most trucks I have been around, the
steering wheel is the black three spoke wheel with a plain black horn button
in the middle. On mine, the wheel is a white or tan two spoke(straight
across) and has a chrome button with the Ford shield in it, embezled in clear
plastic. It also has a chrome ring that loops around the outside of the
button. Was this item stock on some "deluxe" cabs or was it possibly donated
from another vehicle? Any info on this would be appreciated.
Paul
'52 F-3
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:49:23 -0700
From: Rab
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Ford F3

Sorry folks, that should of been a private post

Rab

Bill Casady wrote:

> Looking for an F3 [any year] Body must be in good condition and
> should be at least a daily driver. Send picture if you can. Thanks for
> your help.
>
> Just Plain Bill :)
>
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:54:57 -0500
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Heater hoses...which one?

Hey you swift types, question:
I am adding a updated heater box to my 55 pickup (a 78 Mazda truck
box---what a great little compact unit!) and it has a water control
valve . I would prefer to route the new water through the valve into
the heater core.

I have a 351 Windsor, and can anyone tell me which hose "pushes" the
water to the heater core? If my memory serves me, I believe it is the
upper hose...the one where you would put a Prestone flush tee.

Thanks in advance, Paul Gayda

Temporarily, until sales permit, our family has the "royal flush":
53 pickup named Gromit
54 panel named Wallace
55 pickup named Mutt
56 pickup....no name...actually this one's my son's. I call it
Tangerine Man..guess what color it is?

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:32:02 -0500
From: Ray or Fran Bell
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Winter Projects

I'm planning a couple of winter projects for my F-1, asking =
recommendations/advice, please. Thanks for all the recent info. =
regarding "bed-off" techniques/cautions.

1. GOT to pull the in-cab gas tank. I've installed a late model bench =
seat and lost about 3" of leg room. What's the pro/cons regarding =
in-bed tank vs. under-bed gas tank? If under bed, where's the best =
location? Poly tank vs. steel? Several years from now I plan to go to =
a SVO/TBI engine. Should I buy the fuel pump now or just make sure that =
tank has that option for a later upgrade?=20

2. It's time to replace "Henry's" stock rear end. With the future =
engine in mind what's the pros/cons of a Ford 8" rear vs. 9" rear. I do =
not intend to race. Is this a "bolt and wrench" (in-garage) job after =
obtaining the rear end (of proper width), or will I have to haul it out =
to a weld shop?

3. Up front I've got a Gibbons front end with Dodge torsion bars, =
steering, and steering box. My column is Ford on top with Mopar grafted =
on to the bottom. I lost the horn on this deal. I'd now like to move =
my horn button off the dash and get it back into the wheel center. How =
can I run the wires to make this baby beep?

Thanks in advance.
RAY BELL, Fairfax VA.

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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:19:38 +1300
From: Clive Pedersen - CSERVNZ
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Dipstick Length

I have just purchased a 55 with a 272 Y Block ( I haven't checked the
block numbers yet! )
My oil light comes one when coming to a stop down a steep grade. My
dipstick says I have the correct level of oil.
I have suspicions that I have the incorrect dipstick. Could someone out
there measure their dipstick from the stopper to the end so I can
compare it.

Thanks
Clive Pedersen
55 F100 Pickup
Email Clive.Pedersen lion-nathan.co.nz

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:36:56 -0500
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Thanks, Everbody!

Well, I have read all of your suggestions about my 6 to 12 volt
conversion with the heater motor. I have to admit if I had known I could
find a new motor for a mere $30 I would have gone ahead and bought one.
(Thanks Terry!) The only prices I had seen were usually in excess of
$50, and the budget is kind of tight right now with Christmas coming and
a dire need for a set of rings in Grover's aged Y-block.
I opted for a 10 - 20 amp voltage drop from good ol' J.C. Whitney,
which I plan to mount on a heat sink and then mount either on the intake
manifold where the coil or resistor block would normally be, or in the
fresh air intake duct for the heater. I'll let y'all know how it works.

Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
inaccessible part of the vehicle."

grover ford-trucks.com
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:43:51 -0700
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Dipstick Length


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On Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:19:38 Clive Pedersen - CSERVNZ wrote:
>I have just purchased a 55 with a 272 Y Block ( I haven't checked the
>block numbers yet! )
>My oil light comes one when coming to a stop down a steep grade. My
>dipstick says I have the correct level of oil.
>I have suspicions that I have the incorrect dipstick. Could someone out
>there measure their dipstick from the stopper to the end so I can
>compare it.
>
>Thanks
>Clive Pedersen
>55 F100 Pickup
>Email Clive.Pedersen lion-nathan.co.nz
>
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Sounds like your sump is sucking air at those angles. Probably not much to worry about unless you go downhill like that for extended periods. How many quarts do you put in at oil change time? I use between 5 & 6 quarts with my 55, but i've converted the canister filter to the smaller screw-on type. Anyone else know the recommended oil capacity? Then check your stick after a fresh change. Hope it helps,

Ray C


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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:47:45 -0700
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Thanks, Everbody!


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On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:36:56 The Neighbors wrote:
>Well, I have read all of your suggestions about my 6 to 12 volt
>conversion with the heater motor. I have to admit if I had known I could
>find a new motor for a mere $30 I would have gone ahead and bought one.

Hey Don,

Where CAN you get a heater motor for only $30 and is it a clean swap?

Thanks,

Ray C


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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 05:07:33 -0800
From: George
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Dipstick Length

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On Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:19:38 Clive Pedersen - CSERVNZ wrote:
>I have just purchased a 55 with a 272 Y Block ( I haven't checked the
>block numbers yet! )
>My oil light comes one when coming to a stop down a steep grade. My
>dipstick says I have the correct level of oil.
>I have suspicions that I have the incorrect dipstick. Could someone out
>there measure their dipstick from the stopper to the end so I can
>compare it.
>
>Thanks
>Clive Pedersen
>55 F100 Pickup
>Email Clive.Pedersen lion-nathan.co.nz
>
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Sounds like your sump is sucking air at those angles. Probably not much to
worry about unless you go downhill like that for extended periods. How many
quarts do you put in at oil change time? I use between 5 & 6 quarts with my
55, but i've converted the canister filter to the smaller screw-on type.
Anyone else know the recommended oil capacity? Then check your stick after
a fresh change. Hope it helps,

Ray C

The next time you change your oil and filter, let the engine warm up to....


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