pre61-list-digest Thursday, November 12 1998 Volume 02 : Number 314



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Re: 427/429 Emblem
FTE Pre61 - Re:Frame off Resto
FTE Pre61 - Upper Radiator Hose
FTE Pre61 - chronology of restoration
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re:Frame off Resto
Re: FTE Pre61 - 48 f-1
FTE Pre61 - FW: Ford Truck Enthusiasts post
FTE Pre61 - Frame-off
FTE Pre61 - RE: Upper Radiator Hose

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:49:07 +0000
From: fredg454
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: 427/429 Emblem

Lori,
I was sure I saw these in a National Parts Depot catalog for Mustangs. I
looked and found they have everything but your 429. 260, 289, 351, 460,
428 even the Cobra series. They have the flags/emblems for the whole car
including the decals for the air cleaner. You could pretend it was a
428... and you'd be all set. Sorry I can't be of more help.
Thanks for the note on the tailgate, I guess I could get a new one for
my '56.. I just hate to mine is so rust free (this is Michigan
everything rusts) it seems a shame to toss it. I may just cover it with
one of those louvered panels?

Fred
Hot Rod '56

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:10:16 -0700
From: Mel
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re:Frame off Resto

A good library has "How To" books on restoring anything. Also, not too
long ago "Classic Trucks" had a complete article on frame off
restoration. Check in the back of Hot Rod also. They have many How To
magazines for sales. The best "Bible" is, of course, "Hemmings" Check
in their literature section and you will find just about anything you
need.
Mel Silva
53 F100, 70 El Camino, 34 Ford 5 Window
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:24:36 -0800
From: George
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Upper Radiator Hose

Summit has them in their catalog; chromed metal with an o-ring seal. I've
tried one on my 460 in the conventional 45 degree angle and it never sealed
correctly due to the cheap pot metal under the chrome flexing when I
tightened it. I'm back to the stock iron one that does seal. They also list
a billet piece that swivels 360 degrees for 'only' $85.

George Miller

We have a '56 F-100 into which we put a 429 from a '73 Merc Marquis.
The upper radiator hose typically connects to the standard thermostat
housing which comes out of the intake manifold in approx. a 45 degree
angle toward the right front of the engine compartment. I have seen
some projects which use the 429/460 engine which have a thermostat
housing with the outlet facing straight up. This makes for a much
cleaner and better looking hose loop to the upper radiator. Does
anyone know a source for this piece of hardware?

Dave and Lori
"429EFIE"

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:07:31 -0800
From: "Tom Ewing"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - chronology of restoration

Hi All. I'm not any kind of absolute authority, but I'm just wrapping up
one
multi year truck project and getting ready to start the next. Here's the
outline
I used to somewhat guide me in my planning--much easier than actually
doing, and sometimes even more fun than the actual doing, only not any
thrill or satisfaction that can come from seeing your project come to
completion.
1. select chassis/body
2. select engine/trans/rear end combo
3. gather parts/disassemble chassis/body & inspect
4. build engine/trans/rearend
5. determine which or any changes to front original front suspension
6. build chassis, including plumbing brakes/fuel/rolling chassis
7. install engine & trans
8. assemble body to frame, do bodywork, check fit, etc
9. install radiator/grille/hood/fenders
10. disassemble/paint
11. reassemble
12. wire gauges, accessories, et al
13. upholstery & glass
Someone with more experience might be a able to improve on this, but
I tried to follow this as a general outline. I don't recall where I got the
outline,
but I'm sure I borrowed it myself.
Tom Ewing
All grown up still plays with trucks.
48KB-1
58F-100

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:24:41 EST
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re:Frame off Resto

I purchased the book, "How To Restore Your Ford Pickup" when I first got my
F-3 in June of this year. It covers 1946-1967. It has helped me tremendously
because this is my first frame-off resto. It has 224 pages and lots of
pictures. You can get it from Sacramento Vintage Ford for about 25 bucks. Good
luck

Paul
'52 F-3
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:39:12 EST
From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 48 f-1

Ray, I looked on my '52 F-3, and it does have the tabs, but no Ford part
number! The number is F-54 and has MOOG stamped by it, suggesting that it may
be aftermarket from Moog Automotive Co. I have seen other one-tons with this
same setup so I would say that Ford did install it at the factory. I really
don't think everyone who bought a Ford one-ton would rush out to the parts
store and buy this thing. I would say mine is factory. The tabs themselves are
not connected to the frame with rivets like the spring hangers are. They are
clamped to the frame rail bottom with bolts. Seems like Mr. Henry is trying to
stump us good on this one.
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:48:51 -0600
From: "Rich Garber"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - FW: Ford Truck Enthusiasts post

>
>
>
>> I just finished tidying up the passenger side rear cab corner of
>> my 57 F-100
>>
> 2. Painted all accessible interior surfaces with Extend to kill rust. It
>> makes a nice rough primer and sealer.
>>
>Al,
>
>It just goes to show that there are more than one way to fix a rust spot.
>Seems like just as work as cutting out the old and replacing the
sheetmetal.
>To each his own.
>
>I have used Extend in the past, and (from my experenice) it will not stand
>the test of time.
>
>Try corrless (sp?) from eastwood. It seems to be a much better product, it
>can
>be thined and sprayed from a gun or painted with a brush. It leaves a nice
>coating
>on the metal that can be painted over.
>
>Good Luck
>
>Rich
>54 F100
>

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:22:08 -0600
From: John Mathison
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Frame-off

I have just completed my 56 F-100, also my firtst effort. The truck
turned out great, but I did have higher costs because I didn't plan the
sequence of what I wanted to do and consequently I end up doing things
twice or taking things a part to get back to something that I needed to
do.

My advice to all rookies is to read the truck magazines like Custom
Classic Trucks and Classic Trucks and decide Exactly what you can afford
or want to do to your truck. Then sit down with some experienced
builders and layout the plan for your truck. It is time well spent!
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 22:37:28 -0500
From: earl capps
Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE: Upper Radiator Hose

Dave and Lori

I have a 429 in my '55 F250. I have the same problem with the thermostat
housing as you. I had the original radiator rebuilt with a larger core to
cool the big block. While I was at it, I had them move the inlet and
outlet to match. I used a flexible radiator hose with a 90 degree bend on
one end. I put the bend on the radiator. The hose starts down the face of

the radiator then flexes over to the thermostat housing. It doesn't look
the best, but it works. Also, I only have an electric fan behind the
grill, the stock fan could be a problem for my setup. A verticle housing
would be better. Hopefully someone will come through for us.

I have a couple of questions for you. Is you 429 sitting in the original
frame or is it a cut an paste job? Are you using the original
suspension/steering?
My conversion was a cut and paste that went wrong. 429 and front clip
came out of a '73 LTD. I'm looking to remedy the problem and would
appreciate any suggestions. I am currently leaning toward the Mustand II
kit for the original frame. I don't know if this kit will fit in there
with the 429 or if that suspension can handle the weight (maybe bigger
springs would work).

Earl '55 F250



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