pre61-list-digest Saturday, November 7 1998 Volume 02 : Number 310



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - 6 volt alternators
FTE Pre61 - Dim Lights
FTE Pre61 - pre61-list - shipping 53-56 Hood
FTE Pre61 - shipping 53-56 Hood
FTE Pre61 - re: HVLP Painting Guns Jeff Hazewinkel
Re: FTE Pre61 - '49 F3
Re: FTE Pre61 - '49 F3
Re: FTE Pre61 - '49 F3

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:38:46 -0800
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - 6 volt alternators

> Next, My '54 F100 has been converted to 12 volt (how well I've yet to
>determine). But the headlights are so dim that I had to add a set of
>driving lights just to be able to see at all at night. I cleaned the
>grounds, but to no avail! Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>Conor


It sounds like your a candidate for a set of headlight relays.
They can make an immense difference in headlight brighness...

They're pretty easy to install, go here and look:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://site.dragonfire.net/relay/


Steve
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Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to
recognize a mistake when you make it again.
-- F. P. Jones


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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:34:45 EST
From: MichellHC aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Dim Lights

Hi Conor,

Have you tried checking your headlight plugs with a voltmeter to see exactly
what voltage was reaching your headlights? Second if it is less than 12 Volts,
I would suggest next checking the headlight wire where it comes off the
headlight switch and see if it is putting out 12 Volts. If not check your hot
wire going into your headlight switch for 12 Volts. I would just backtrack all
the way to the battery is necessary to find what the bad component was. I have
learned from experence that it is not a bad idea to change your head light
switch to one from a 56 that was designed for 12 Volts.

Michelle
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 18:50:40 -0700
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - pre61-list - shipping 53-56 Hood

Has anyone ever shipped a 53-56 hood? what's the best way? Packing? Price? Thanks,

Ray C


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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 18:52:04 -0700
From: "Ray Cardogno"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - shipping 53-56 Hood

Has anyone ever shipped a 53-56 hood? what's the best way? Packing? Price? Thanks,

Ray C


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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 23:29:46 -0500
From: paul vanpelt
Subject: FTE Pre61 - re: HVLP Painting Guns Jeff Hazewinkel

I've been using HVLP for about 4 years now. I started with a BINK's
Mach unit with standard nozzle and needle size. I have a 5hp 80gal
compressor and quite honestly it is a struggle to get the right mixture
using enamel without minor orange peel. I went to a smaller nozzle and
needle that helped some. When the mixture is right by and luck is on my
side it lays out a beautiful paint job. It does apply more paint per
pass than conventional guns, but once your use to that, it is a nice
benifit. I found if I use 1/2 ID hose up to the gun and carefully
adjust the pattern and density it works well. I recently got a
DeVillbis Finish Line gravity feed HVLP and it uses less scmf than the
gravity feed Binks unit. Adjusting and results are very consistant and
it also lays out a nice paint job. It tends to be closer to the
conventional non-hvlp guns in the amount of paint applied per pass. It
is a relatively inexpensive gun $150 compared to the $350 for the Binks
gun. The last one I'll bore you with is a Binks Mach touch-up gun also
an HVLP. I use it for everything from small panel touch-up to
"bread-box" size jobs. I wish I could paint entire cars with it, it
works so well. I have no experiance with self-contained unit, they look
to limiting to me. I've been in my home made booth and can not image
trying to pull a box and 1 inch hose around a car I'm trying to paint.
You probably know the frustration of finishing the last panel only to
wander up to the front of the car and find the air hose smuged the paint
there, especially on a metallic paint. If I were to recommend one, I
guess I'd say if your compressor puts out 10 or 12 scmf at 55 lbs the
Binks siphon (pressure cup in reality) unit works best. Meaning you can
put paint on an entire car before the first sprayed part dries enough
to cause overspray problems. Plus the 1 quart cup holds enough for the
first pass. If you have a smaller compressor a gravity feed is probably
best since scmf is much lower. I would never go back to conventional,
the first time you actually see the difference between the overspray
from conventional to HVLP you realize why it saves so much paint.
Hope it helps Paul
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 23:10:51 -0600
From: Rod Emly
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '49 F3

Joe,
That's sounds like the one I'm looking for. The measurements are correct. Is it
a "Top of Roll" gate? (The latch connector inside the roll rather than below
it?) If this is the case, that's exactly the one I'm looking for. Now for a
solution to your problem. I came across an F1 tailgate in good shape while
looking for mine. He didn't mention a price, but I'm sure it would be
reasonable. He has a whole bone yard full of Ford trucks for parts. Get back to
me on the gate you found and I'll check with this guy here and see what he
wants for the F1 gate.
Rod Emly

Joe Michels wrote:

> Rod-- I think that I have solved your problem. I am looking for a good F1
> tailgate, however, I found a gate today that was too big for my F1. The
> gate that I found is 54 7/8 inches wide, 21 1/4 inches high. Is that an
> F2-F3 gate? It is the same vintage, 50-52, as it looks just like my 51.
> This one was in good shape, of course, it is 45 years old, however, overall
> was in great shape. The old boy wanted $100, however, I think 4 20 bills
> would have taken it. Let me know if this is the one, if it is, I'll tell
> you where it is at!!
>
> Joebob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rod Emly
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 6:09 PM
> Subject: FTE Pre61 - '49 F3
>
> >I am looking for a tailgate for a '49-'51 F2 or F3. Living in a farming
> >state, my tailgate has a hole cut into it for the grain chute that
> >someone added to it. The tailgate for the F1's are too narrow for the F2
> >or F3 boxes.
> >Rod Emly
> >brushman minot.ndak.net
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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 23:13:21 -0600
From: Rod Emly
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '49 F3

JR,
The gates are definately different widths between the F1's and F2-F3's. I don't
know about later years, but the 48-51's are different widths.
Rod

JRFiero aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 98-09-26 20:08:57 EDT, you write:
>
>
> I am looking for a tailgate for a '49-'51 F2 or F3. Living in a farming
> state, my tailgate has a hole cut into it for the grain chute that
> someone added to it. The tailgate for the F1's are too narrow for the F2
> or F3 boxes.
> >>
> At least in the F1s, they changed sometime in '50, so the date ranges are
> 48-early 50 and late 50-52. If you had a 50, you'd have to know more. Since
> you have a 49, I'd look at the 48-early 50 vintage. For details you could
> probably call Dennis Carpenter or Todd Murthum. Murthum now goes by another
> company name, unfortunately, Northern something? He reproduces Ford pickup
> beds and parts. He'd know the difference 'tween F1s, 2s, and 3s, but it'd be
> news to me if the tailgates were different widths.
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 03:51:29 -0700
From: "Joe Michels"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '49 F3

Rod-- Maybe we are on to something!! Here is the name of the guy, he is
here in Albuquerque, New Mexico, however, the parts are out at Gallup NM,
about 150 miles West. Route 66 Junkyard-- Ron Thomas 505-262-0171 or email,
rongthomas worldnet.att.net.

The Gate that he had was in real good shape, again 45 years old, but not
beat up at all. As you might guess, I am excited to hear what you
found--trying to find an F1 gate here has been a challenge, lots of junk,
nothing real good and I am really strapped to pay $350 for one!!

Do you live right in Minot? I have a good friend who is currently in
Washington, a political appointee in Agriculuture who is from Minot, Wally
Beyer. Wally ran the REA in Minot for about 33 years before Mr Clinton took
him to Washington.

Col Steve Cullen, the missile wing operations group commander is also an
acquaintance of mine-- small world.

Hope that this helps-- let me know.

Joe


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From: Rod Emly
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - '49 F3


>Joe,
>That's sounds like the one I'm looking for. The measurements are correct.
Is it
>a "Top of Roll" gate? (The latch connector inside the roll rather than
below
>it?) If this is the case, that's exactly the one I'm looking for. Now for a
>solution to your problem. I came across an F1 tailgate in good shape while
>looking for mine. He didn't mention a price, but I'm sure it would be
>reasonable. He has a whole bone yard full of Ford trucks for parts. Get
back to
>me on the gate you found and I'll check with this guy here and see what he
>wants for the F1 gate.
>Rod Emly
>
>Joe Michels wrote:
>
>> Rod-- I think that I have solved your problem. I am looking for a good
F1
>> tailgate, however, I found a gate today that was too big for my F1. The
>> gate that I found is 54 7/8 inches wide, 21 1/4 inches high. Is that an
>> F2-F3 gate? It is the same vintage, 50-52, as it looks just like my 51.
>> This one was in good shape, of course, it is 45 years old, however,
overall
>> was in great shape. The old boy wanted $100, however, I think 4 20 bills
>> would have taken it. Let me know if this is the one, if it is, I'll tell
>> you where it is at!!
>>
>> Joebob
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rod Emly
>> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>> Date: Saturday, September 26, 1998 6:09 PM
>> Subject: FTE Pre61 - '49 F3
>>
>> >I am looking for a tailgate for a '49-'51 F2 or F3. Living in a farming
>> >state, my tailgate has a hole cut into it for the grain chute that
>> >someone added to it. The tailgate for the F1's are too narrow for the F2
>> >or F3 boxes.
>> >Rod Emly
>> >brushman minot.ndak.net
>> >
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