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pre61-list-digest Thursday, October 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 281



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In this issue:

RE: FTE Pre61 - Rear End
FTE Pre61 - RE:HELP
Re: FTE Pre61 - Rear End
RE: FTE Pre61 - Rear End
FTE Pre61 - How to wedge Fenton Headers in '35 Pickup with some '37 stuff
FTE Pre61 - 1956 Mercury truck

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:17:15 -0700
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Rear End

Hi Kenneth,

I to have a 55 I lowered with both reverse eyes and hangers. To be honest I
haven't checked the pinion angle yet, but when I did drive it didn;t knotice
any vibration or abnormalties. In case you do have to adjust I understand
that there are wedge type shims that you can get that will rotate your nine
without moving the spring pads.
How much have you lowered the front?

DMO1 55 F100

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> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Rear End
>
> Hello All:
>
> I installed a 9 inch from a 65 F100. My question is if I lower the truck
> with reversed eye short & smooth springs & a extended Y hanger do I need
> to
> move the spring pads to get the right pinion angle.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kenneth 55 F100
>
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:34:50 EDT
From: MichellHC aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE:HELP

David,
Sounds like you do have the true Cleveland. I did run the casting number and
come up with two DOAE casting numbers for Clevelands, DOAE-J, and DOAE-G ,but
no DOAE-L. However the book does sometimes miss a number. This is not the
first number I have not been able to fine a number that came right off a head
or block. The good news is I didn't find any DOAE casting numbers for 341 M at
all. Did you check out the front of the block to see if it was flat from the
dist. recess over to the Thermostat housing? That will tell you in an instant.
About the pros and coms of the FMX. Most people like the C-6 better because of
its lighter weight and also because there are a lot of trick parts made for
the C-6. However I the cast iron FMX is actually tougher transmission. I had a
FMX behind a tricked out Cleveland once and run the dog out of it with never a
problem. In my opinion that are probably better than the C-6 except for the
weight. Unless I was shaving every pound I could find I would run it.

Mihcelle
Chelle's 56 Hauler
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:27:43 -0400
From: "KENNETH D MARTY"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Rear End

Hi Dennis,

I plane on installing TCI Mustang II IFS on my truck . They said it would
lower it about 5 to 6 inches.
What did you use for front, stay with stock are did you use IFS

Kenneth 55 F100

- -----Original Message-----
From: O'Connell, Dennis M
To: 'pre61-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 10:28 AM
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Rear End


>Hi Kenneth,
>
>I to have a 55 I lowered with both reverse eyes and hangers. To be honest
I
>haven't checked the pinion angle yet, but when I did drive it didn;t
knotice
>any vibration or abnormalties. In case you do have to adjust I understand
>that there are wedge type shims that you can get that will rotate your nine
>without moving the spring pads.
>How much have you lowered the front?
>
>DMO1 55 F100
>
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>> From: pre61-list ford-trucks.com[SMTP:pre61-list ford-trucks.com]
>> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 5:13 PM
>> To: Ford Truck List
>> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Rear End
>>
>> Hello All:
>>
>> I installed a 9 inch from a 65 F100. My question is if I lower the truck
>> with reversed eye short & smooth springs & a extended Y hanger do I need
>> to
>> move the spring pads to get the right pinion angle.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kenneth 55 F100
>>
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:03:33 -0700
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Rear End

Kenneth,
Actually, When I bought the truck it had a clip on it(Part of the reason I
bought it). I thought 71 T Bird, but now I'm finding out it was probably a
70. Works out nice for the 429 and C6 I'm running. Good spring ratio for
that very heavy motor and already set up with power steering and large disc
brakes. Only problem I'm having is that since it's an oddball, after market
suspension is out and none of the premade 429 headers will fit without
modification. Since I've lowered mine in back, now the fronts to high.
Need to lower it another inch or two.

I've seen that TCI on a truck before. Looks nice and the guy was very happy
with it.

If you want to take a look at my work-in-progress you can see a few pictures
at www.zoomie.com look under F100, Goodguys Spring 98, Dennis O'Connell 55
F100. It's all apart now. Hard to believe it was almost done before I
started with the fenders and went nuts.

Dennis

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> From: pre61-list ford-trucks.com[SMTP:pre61-list ford-trucks.com]
> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 10:27 AM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Rear End
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
> I plane on installing TCI Mustang II IFS on my truck . They said it would
> lower it about 5 to 6 inches.
> What did you use for front, stay with stock are did you use IFS
>
> Kenneth 55 F100
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: O'Connell, Dennis M
> To: 'pre61-list ford-trucks.com'
> Date: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 10:28 AM
> Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Rear End
>
>
> >Hi Kenneth,
> >
> >I to have a 55 I lowered with both reverse eyes and hangers. To be
> honest
> I
> >haven't checked the pinion angle yet, but when I did drive it didn;t
> knotice
> >any vibration or abnormalties. In case you do have to adjust I
> understand
> >that there are wedge type shims that you can get that will rotate your
> nine
> >without moving the spring pads.
> >How much have you lowered the front?
> >
> >DMO1 55 F100
> >
> >> ----------
> >> From: pre61-list ford-trucks.com[SMTP:pre61-list ford-trucks.com]
> >> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 5:13 PM
> >> To: Ford Truck List
> >> Subject: FTE Pre61 - Rear End
> >>
> >> Hello All:
> >>
> >> I installed a 9 inch from a 65 F100. My question is if I lower the
> truck
> >> with reversed eye short & smooth springs & a extended Y hanger do I
> need
> >> to
> >> move the spring pads to get the right pinion angle.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Kenneth 55 F100
> >>
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:46:04 -0400
From: Thomas Teixeira
Subject: FTE Pre61 - How to wedge Fenton Headers in '35 Pickup with some '37 stuff

I've got a '35 pickup with a bit of a mongrel engine and other set up. The
block is a '37 block but is running '36 heads (with the water pumps on the
heads) and special plates/motor mounts where later water pumps would go.
I've also had a '37 steering box put in. The brakes have been converted to
hydraulic brakes, although that shouldn't affect how the headers fit (at
least I don't think so).

Anyway, I ordered from Fenton Headers from Red's Headers a few weeks ago
and was just able to squeeze the driver's side header into place although
it was touching the steering box: when I had the new steering box installed
I had my mechanic put some washers under the front motor mount to provide
the clearance.

The other bit of preparation was moving the battery out from under the
driver's seat rather than routing the exhaust under the running boards or
something else. I ended up putting it on a battery tray in the engine
compartment on the passenger side, but would be interested in suggestions
on other places to put it more out of the way. The tray is held in place
with hardware store L-brackets with a fairly heavy piece of strapping bent
as a triangle bracing on one of the L-brackets. I put a late model Ford
starter switch on the inner fender and ran a pair of wires over to the
floor mounted starter switch.

Since everything seemed to fit, I sent the headers off to HPC to get a
ceramic/aluminum coating and this Monday I was able to bring the truck to a
custom exhaust place to get some stainless steel pipes and mufflers
installed.

The good news is that everything fits and sounds good, and I'm ready to
plan the next step of putting on a dual carb intake manifold. The bad news
is that the guy installing the headers took a grinder to get a little more
clearance. It makes me really wish I'd done this before getting them
coated, or that I'd been able to hang around the muffler shop and suggest
they try shimming the motor a little higher instead. Right now things don't
look too bad because the cast iron is still bright from the grinding, but
I'm sure it will get more noticeable. Sometime when I have more energy
(like sometime this winter when I won't be driving the truck anyway), I'll
have to get that header out and get it recoated.

Oh, and of course to keep things interesting, the shift lever decided it
would be a good time to jump out of the gates and keep the truck stuck in
second gear. The muffler shop guys had to push it around on to the lift,
and despite having the right idea couldn't get the shifter back in
correctly. The trick was after removing the shift lever (which is easy),
making sure BOTH shifter gates were in the neutral position before putting
the lever back.

After getting the transmission back together, the 30 mile drive home was
uneventful. The exhaust has a nice low rumble at idle, but makes itself
heard if you want to when you get going. I was pleasantly surprised by a
very mild lope at idle, just enough to let you know it's a V8, even though
I have a stock cam, as far as I know.

When I get a chance, I'll try to get some pictures up on my web page.

Tom Teixeira mailto:tjt world.std.com
94 Taurus SHO 5-speed NESHOC/SHO Registry
'66 Mustang convertible (200 cid auto) http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt
'35 Ford Pickup (flathead V8)


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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 19:14:17 -0500
From: "MARK AMES"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 1956 Mercury truck

I purchased a 1956 Mercury M100 pickup this summer, I would like to locate =
a set of emblems and Mercury front leters as mine have pits in them, 55-56 =
side emblems will interchange and 53-56 front leters interchange. I am =
also looking for any 1956 Mercury truck manuals, sales literature, or =....


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