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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - Neophyte 56 owner
FTE Pre61 - Fair weather trucks
Re: FTE Pre61 - Fair weather trucks
FTE Pre61 - Ford Engine Identification
FTE Pre61 - Bolt in radiators
FTE Pre61 - Rear Axle ID/Conversion to 9"
FTE Pre61 - cab bodywork

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:58:28 -0500
From: Rich Garber
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Neophyte 56 owner

At 07:03 PM 9/17/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>WBATTE aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hello Folks: Purchased my 1st PU (56 F-100 w/40K orig-miles).
>> and would like this beauty to be my driver thru the winter in New England.
>> (need to make up for lost time)
>> Plan to be practical with the typical slush/salt problems.
>>
>
>Not a real positive answer to your questions, but why risk some fool in a
sport
>ute, 4 wheel drive engaged on black ice, doing 95 in a 45, creaming a
pristine and
>unreplaceable bit of iron. The best use of winter is to beat up some old
chevy,
>while improving the wipers or radio or some such worthwhile task, as road
crews
>spread salt and wreckers remove the debris. Most pickups spin helplessly
on dew,
>are cold and drafty, the heaters, wipers and defrosters are poor on and on.
>
>To each their own I guess.
>
>47 Fred (New Hampshire)

Agreed, The thought makes me kringe! For the year of these trucks, you do
still see alot of them, because no one drives them in the winter.

Rich
54 F100
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:58:51 EDT
From: TonyDePaul aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Fair weather trucks

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Hello, everybody,

I'm awfully glad to hear that some of you guys are immortal and will be around
forever to enjoy driving your vintage Fords ;-)

Taking nothing for granted, I drive my '49 F-1 every day, and in all weathers.
I restored the truck to show quality a few years ago, so I get lots of thumbs-
up signs in the summer. In winter snows, while I'm growling down the road in
my Firestone knobbies, I do get some pained looks from guys who'd rather
worship a classic than drive it.

"Neophyte '56 owner" is on the right track precisely because he does refer to
himself as the "owner." Own the truck, I say; don't let it own you.

Bottom line: 47 Fred is right, of course. To each his own.

Tony

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:58:28 -0500
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From: Rich Garber
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Neophyte 56 owner
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At 07:03 PM 9/17/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>WBATTE aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hello Folks: Purchased my 1st PU (56 F-100 w/40K orig-miles).
>> and would like this beauty to be my driver thru the winter in New England.
>> (need to make up for lost time)
>> Plan to be practical with the typical slush/salt problems.
>>
>
>Not a real positive answer to your questions, but why risk some fool in a
sport
>ute, 4 wheel drive engaged on black ice, doing 95 in a 45, creaming a
pristine and
>unreplaceable bit of iron. The best use of winter is to beat up some old
chevy,
>while improving the wipers or radio or some such worthwhile task, as road
crews
>spread salt and wreckers remove the debris. Most pickups spin helplessly
on dew,
>are cold and drafty, the heaters, wipers and defrosters are poor on and on.
>
>To each their own I guess.
>
>47 Fred (New Hampshire)

Agreed, The thought makes me kringe! For the year of these trucks, you do
still see alot of them, because no one drives them in the winter.

Rich
54 F100
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:12:20 -0400
From: Howard Tarnoff
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Fair weather trucks

Here are my two cents worth. Our 55 is a Trailer Queen...enclosed at that. It is
completely restored to stock and is an absolute treat to drive. The problem I
have with driving to shows and cruise nights are;

Massachusettes drivers - where do you find these people.
Massachusettes roads - built to confuse the British and keep the rest of us home.

Each time we have had her on the road we have just slightly avoided disaster. The
truck needs to be preserved for the generations to come. Wax on - Wax off.

We also have a 54 Crestline Victoria Sunliner. While very nicely restored we did
not go overboard. Put on Coker Radials and it is the cats meow on the road and at
the show.

Again, to each there own. Some day I may buy another effie to build as a driver.
This one is the keeper.

Howard
Franklin, MA

TonyDePaul aol.com wrote:

> Hello, everybody,
>
> I'm awfully glad to hear that some of you guys are immortal and will be around
> forever to enjoy driving your vintage Fords ;-)
>
> Taking nothing for granted, I drive my '49 F-1 every day, and in all weathers.
> I restored the truck to show quality a few years ago, so I get lots of thumbs-
> up signs in the summer. In winter snows, while I'm growling down the road in
> my Firestone knobbies, I do get some pained looks from guys who'd rather
> worship a classic than drive it.
>
> "Neophyte '56 owner" is on the right track precisely because he does refer to
> himself as the "owner." Own the truck, I say; don't let it own you.
>
> Bottom line: 47 Fred is right, of course. To each his own.
>
> Tony
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Neophyte 56 owner
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:58:28 -0500
> From: Rich Garber
> Reply-To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> References:
>
> At 07:03 PM 9/17/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >WBATTE aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Folks: Purchased my 1st PU (56 F-100 w/40K orig-miles).
> >> and would like this beauty to be my driver thru the winter in New England.
> >> (need to make up for lost time)
> >> Plan to be practical with the typical slush/salt problems.
> >>
> >
> >Not a real positive answer to your questions, but why risk some fool in a
> sport
> >ute, 4 wheel drive engaged on black ice, doing 95 in a 45, creaming a
> pristine and
> >unreplaceable bit of iron. The best use of winter is to beat up some old
> chevy,
> >while improving the wipers or radio or some such worthwhile task, as road
> crews
> >spread salt and wreckers remove the debris. Most pickups spin helplessly
> on dew,
> >are cold and drafty, the heaters, wipers and defrosters are poor on and on.
> >
> >To each their own I guess.
> >
> >47 Fred (New Hampshire)
>
> Agreed, The thought makes me kringe! For the year of these trucks, you do
> still see alot of them, because no one drives them in the winter.
>
> Rich
> 54 F100
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:18:43 -0700
From: Tulio
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Ford Engine Identification

I just picked this up at the wrecking yard out of a '63 Ford F100 Custom
Cab. I know it's not the stock engine but, what size it is I don't have
a clue except it is at least a 351.

Id numbers:

C4E9425 - Intake Manifold

C4TE (?) - Side of block

C8AE-6059-B - Timing Cover

C8AE-H - Heads

It is missing the Carburetor, Distributor and the Harmonic Balancer and
accessories. So.... can anyone identify this engine and have parts
that go to it? The intake manifold btw has four openings for apparent a
four barrel carb. Immediate replies will help in my '60 F-100 beauty of
a restoration. May be submitting photos of the project soon. It's
really coming out pretty nice... Still in a tan primer coat but...
looks good even at that... IMHO.





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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:13:08 -0400
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Bolt in radiators

I appreciate all the replies as to what radiator will bolt in my 55. I
guess I didn't make it clear that I wasn't referring to a stock
radiator, which will surely bolt in, but I was trying to determine which
later model radiators would easily bolt onto the existing supports. I
was contemplating lowering the front radiator height that way, since the
stock is really tall.
Thanks, Paul

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:14:38 -0700
From: Tulio
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Rear Axle ID/Conversion to 9"

ok.. another question of to the gathering

I want to install a C6 tranny in my '60 F100 along with a 9" rear axle.
The problem is determining what is on the truck now... the numbers on
the front of the axle are:

488B
WAA
and C

Could anyone with one of those marvelous ID books tell me what are my
chances of just replacing the differencial within this axle to a 9"? Is
it possible?..

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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:42:17 -0600 (MDT)
From: Darcy Lee Davis
Subject: FTE Pre61 - cab bodywork

I was looking at the backside of my cab today, trying to determine a
course of action for its repairation. Let me tell you, its not a pretty
site. My Grandpa (previous mechanic/repairman) beleived strongly in
function over form, hence the spiderweb arcwelding pattern. Also badly
rusted and stretched, the metal is a bodyworker's nightmare, and I'm no
bodyworker. However, of the two cabs I have availiable this one has a far
better floor, firewall, and roof. My other cab has an excellent back panel
however. My thought was to remove the back part of the cab from the joint
where it meets the roof, all the way down to the floor, and replace it
with the back of the other cab, down to the floor. Am I mad or what? Can
this really be done? Also, should I try to just remove the sheetmetal or
should I go right through the doorpost so that I have very little bodywork
to do on the sheet metal itself, and most of it won't be visible. Right....


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