pre61-list-digest Wednesday, August 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 230



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Them Low Beams
FTE Pre61 - frame coating
Re: FTE Pre61 - frame coating
FTE Pre61 - Manual or power rack
Re: FTE Pre61 - Manual or power rack
Re: FTE Pre61 - Manual or power rack
FTE Pre61 - Re: most wonderful time of the year
Re: FTE Pre61 - frame coating
Re: FTE Pre61 - my problem
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: most wonderful time of the year

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 06:50:49 -0400
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Them Low Beams

Paul wrote "I have a stock, 1959 F-100 (quad headligts). The low
beams will not
illuminate, but they do light up (as they should) when the high beams
are on. The sealed beams are o.k. and all wiring seems to be intact
and sound. I'm guessing it is the headlight switch. Any diagnostic
tips out there?"
Paul that happened to me one night someyears ago when I was about
100 miles from home. Everybody on I-35 hated me, and didn't seem to get
the message that I had no lights on low beam!! It's your dimmer switch.

Don Neighbors



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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:54:29 -0500
From: "Douglas K. Siedsma"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - frame coating

anybody,
am restoring 51 f100. sandblasing frame now, what experience does anyone
have with coatings. Do a standard undercoat spray or is there something
better.
thanks.
Doug
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 22:02:31 -0400
From: "David M. Ackerschott"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - frame coating

Douglas K. Siedsma wrote:
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> anybody,
> am restoring 51 f100. sandblasing frame now, what experience does anyone
> have with coatings. Do a standard undercoat spray or is there something
> better.
> thanks.
> Doug
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I am in the process of doing the same thing, after i sandblasted the
frame and welled all the whole, put in boxing plates and crossmember
ect... I coated the frame with a product call corosol made my eastwood
company then a sprayed the fram with there semi-gloss black chassis
paint so now i can say WHOO HOO that thing looks sweet, the paint sprays
thick and even so it coates nicely, also the corosol primer sealer
coverts rust to metal so anything i may have missed with the blaster is
taken car of.
Good luck hope this helps,

thanks ddavid
1953 Ford F100 Sweet & Low
1996 Ford Contour(the Wifes Pride and Joy)
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:41:31 -0400
From: ynot80 juno.com (Tony P.)
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Manual or power rack

Hey,
I was wondering if it would be better to get a manual rack or power rack
with my mustang II IFS kit ?
ynot80 juno.com

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 02:16:32 -0400
From: "David M. Ackerschott"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Manual or power rack

Tony P. wrote:
>
> Hey,
> I was wondering if it would be better to get a manual rack or power rack
> with my mustang II IFS kit ?
> ynot80 juno.com

Howdy, i asked the same questions at the north and south f100 show here
in california last year, i was told my everyone to get a power rack, i
met about 6 people will manual racks and 1/2 of them told me they were
switching to power soooooon, just my two cents.

thanks dddavid
1953 Ford F100 Sweet & Low
1996 Ford Contour (wifes pride and joy)
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:20:47 -0400
From: 47Fred
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Manual or power rack

Tony P. wrote:

> Hey,
> I was wondering if it would be better to get a manual rack or power rack
> with my mustang II IFS kit ?
> ynot80 juno.com

Many people I know who have done this say the power rack is too light and
quick which tends to promote wandering. One friend who has a '36 chevy
changed to a manual and was much happier, another fellow I met in Hershey
selling a '40 Ford with a 383 chrysler had also swapped to a manual because
of wander. A good bet is to haunt car (oops) truck shows and talk to
someone with the same setup you want, and see what they say. You might even
find someone who would let you test drive their rig, to see how it feels to
you.

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:39:22 -0400
From: 47Fred
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: most wonderful time of the year

Noticing that is is now August 18, and that's pretty well done, it occurred to
me that it's almost October. October is, course HERSHEY, and the calendar
should be reworked to reflect the correct name, nuts to some dead Roman. This
year HERSHEY is Oct. 7, 8, 9 &10th. For those that have not attended in the
past, I'd estimate that to properly cover the flea market area alone requires
walking some 10 miles per day for 3 days, and this is only stopping at the Ford
stuff. The cars show has upwards of 1500 judged cars, and the rules require
that the car be driven onto the show field, so Saturday the 10th sees a parade
of cars that you'll never see anywhere else. The are usually a bunch of pretty
wild trucks there to, you won't see many Mustang II clips, but you might see
the 1914 Chevy V-8 and maybe a soild tire chain drive Mack. Last year the
friend I went with bought a 1948 Ford cab-over built on a '85 F-350 frame with
a 460 and C-6. Dual wheels and a hydraulic tilt flat bed. Pass anything but a
gas station (really) and turned heads all the way to New Hampshire.

Anyway, sorry (not really) for the ramble, anyone planning to go?

47 Fred

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:30:21 EDT
From: ILLCOM56 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - frame coating

Doug..

I'm gonna powder coat my frame. I have looked at alot of things and this
seems to be the best. There are many different colors and you can hit that
stuff with a hammer and it wont chip. I am also planning on using powder
coating on engine parts very durible stuff.

Josh
56 F-10
"PHATTY"
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:31:46 EDT
From: JRFiero aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - my problem

Earlier posts are below my message.
There are way too many wear points in column shifters! The worst ones are the
bushings on the end of the tranny levers, and on the column levers under the
hood, connected by rods. I think those are the most likely to be worn out.
Also, check the tightness of the tranny levers where they clamp onto the
shafts coming out of the tranny. As noted by others, they're probably covered
with crap, so just clean them off and tighten the bolts. The bushings are
available from most ol' Ford sources. If you can't get them or want to see
the difference, use some small pieces of approximately the right diameter
copper tubing, and washers and such, to tighten them up. Kinda like bubble
gum and bailing wire...
Several responses mentioned wear in the steering column - isn't the shift
shaft outside the steering column on a '54? If so you should be readily able
to determine if the pivot points are severely worn. There should be a grease
fitting on the underhood end of the shift shaft (whatever it should be
called), and if that's broken off (like mine) or neglected, you'd have
significant wear in those lever pivot areas. Crank it full of grease to see
what happens.
Hopefully it's true that your problems are outside the tranny.
Good luck!

In a message dated 98-08-17 23:32:12 EDT, you write:


"Okay everybody, I need help. I recently bought a 1954 F-100 with a
three on the tree. it drives alright USUALLY, but sometimes it gets
stuck in gear, and I can mess around with the shifters at the
transmission itself, it works for a couple times through the gears, then
gets stuck again. Which part(s) do I need to replace? Is it my entire
column? "

Ryan,
First the good news, most of the problem is not in the transmission. The
linkage is too loose to pull the tranny out of the gear you are leaving
before it slides into the neutral position. Sometimes the problem can be
fixed by replacing the bushings in the shifting linkage, but occasionally
the shift tube inside the column is too worn and it will need replacement.
As a "work around" exagerate your shift pattern when you drive. Push the
shift lever slightly past the neutral position before you let it drop down
to go into second. This will pull it fully out of low and it wil work
better. I drove one for several years this way and had no problems.
Nobody else could drive the truck.
R >>
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 01:12:35 EDT
From: Filzdad aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: most wonderful time of the year

I went last year, planning on it again this year. Comments are right on the
mark. I'll still be lookin' for my '41 dream...

Matt
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