pre61-list-digest Sunday, July 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 201



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Pre61 - Tech stuff page
Re: FTE Pre61 - Extended Y hangers
FTE Pre61 - engine oil coolers
FTE Pre61 - Transmission
Re: FTE Pre61 - engine oil coolers
Re: FTE Pre61 - Volare v. Mustang ifs
FTE Pre61 - Insurance

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 98 09:17:03 -0400
From: spowel4 bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tech stuff page

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 98 09:18:03 -0400
From: spowel4 bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Extended Y hangers

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Even youths grow tired and weary, and young men stumble and fall; but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:30-31
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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 08:37:53 -0700
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE Pre61 - engine oil coolers

On Sat, 18 Jul 1998, Oldtrukman webtv.net (R. Pietsch) wrote:
>
> Ladies and Gents of the list. I have a question about engine oil
> coolers. Three or four years back while prouling around one of my
> favorite auto recycling yards, I happened upon an old Ford taxi cab that
> had a stock Ford engine oil cooler on it. Well it didn't have it for
> long. I picked up the whole setup for $15.00. I got it all cleaned up
> and put it away for a later time. Last fall I completed the rebuild of a
> 351C and installed it in The Rat. It has about 2500 miles on it now &
> I"m starting to think about that oil cooler now. I have read several
> magazine articles about transmission coolers and how over cooling the
> tranny fluid is not a good thing. I have not, however, read or seen any
> information about the do's or don'ts about engine oil. Have any of you
> out there had any experience with these coolers. The truck is set up to
> tow my 22 ft. 5th wheel trailer, so the motor does get a pretty good
> workout once in a while. Any input any of you might have will be
> appreciated.

The general concensus is that the engine oil needs to be kept hot to
boil off any water, acids or volatile compounds (such as stray gas) that
will attack the bearings or decrease the lubricating value. Normally
people will reccomend that you install an oil or transmission
temperature gauge before springing for the $50-100 cooler to make sure
they need it. Even though you already have the cooler it would still be
a good idea, for both the trannie and engine oil. Another thing is that
the high quality engine oil coolers are generally thermostatically
controlled, so that they only cool when it is really needed, and do not
prolong the warm up.

Regards,

Birken
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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:00:02 -0500
From: "wild.bunch"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Transmission

Tony: If the input shaft of your transmission is 6.5" from the face of the
trans to the end of the input shaft, you could use a Ford T&C toploader 4
speed or SROD 3speed + overdrive. They are usually drilled for both the
early and late Ford bellhousing patterns. In the late 70s-early 80s, Jeep
used the Ford T&C with a top mounted shifter that mounted in place of the
sheet metal cover. The shift lever is in about the same place as a truck 4
speed and I think would come thru the floor hole in about the same place
without having to cut. If you use the overdrive with the top shifter you
would have a funny shift pattern, but also an overdrive.

Just a thought, I never could leave well enough alone

tim

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:05:21 -0400
From: Mick Price
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - engine oil coolers

Vogt Family wrote:
>
> On Sat, 18 Jul 1998, Oldtrukman webtv.net (R. Pietsch) wrote:
> >
> > Ladies and Gents of the list. I have a question about engine oil
> > coolers. Three or four years back while prouling around one of my
> > favorite auto recycling yards, I happened upon an old Ford taxi cab that
> > had a stock Ford engine oil cooler on it. Well it didn't have it for
> > long. I picked up the whole setup for $15.00. I got it all cleaned up
> > and put it away for a later time. Last fall I completed the rebuild of a
> > 351C and installed it in The Rat. It has about 2500 miles on it now &
> > I"m starting to think about that oil cooler now. I have read several
> > magazine articles about transmission coolers and how over cooling the
> > tranny fluid is not a good thing. I have not, however, read or seen any
> > information about the do's or don'ts about engine oil. Have any of you
> > out there had any experience with these coolers. The truck is set up to
> > tow my 22 ft. 5th wheel trailer, so the motor does get a pretty good
> > workout once in a while. Any input any of you might have will be
> > appreciated.
>
> The general concensus is that the engine oil needs to be kept hot to
> boil off any water, acids or volatile compounds (such as stray gas) that
> will attack the bearings or decrease the lubricating value. Normally
> people will reccomend that you install an oil or transmission
> temperature gauge before springing for the $50-100 cooler to make sure
> they need it. Even though you already have the cooler it would still be
> a good idea, for both the trannie and engine oil. Another thing is that
> the high quality engine oil coolers are generally thermostatically
> controlled, so that they only cool when it is really needed, and do not
> prolong the warm up.
>
> Regards,
>
> Birken
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10-4, good advice, Birken. Without a thermostat the oil will take an
extended period to warm up (maybe never) until you are pulling that
fifth wheel trailer. Bye the way, Vogt family, how do you plan to mount
and support the fifth wheel? I'm planning the same thing for my '53 F100
with its (ugh) supercharged 355" small block CHEVY (sorry) - Mick
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Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 00:54:21 EDT
From: JStoneF100 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Volare v. Mustang ifs

I'm installing Volarie in 59 F100 as we speak has to be better than the one
that it replaced......truck is yet to be complete ...Sorry to "Jump th fence"
but my 59 will have a Mopar for the drive-train. JStone.
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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 23:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Stokes
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Insurance

I called my insurance agent about insuring my 56 once I got it on the
raod. According to the agent it was upt to me to declare a value and the
policy would be priced accordingly.

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