pre61-list-digest Monday, July 6 1998 Volume 02 : Number 188

Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1960 and Older trucks and vans
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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - YBlock web site
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site updates
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: June Archives
FTE Pre61 - drip rails
FTE Pre61 - The Tool Black Hole
Re: FTE Pre61 - C4 Output Shaft
FTE Pre61 - 56 Frame and Clubs



Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 12:01:46 -0400
From: "Neal B. Forbes"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - YBlock web site

Hello Trukkies--anybody know what happened to the YBlock web site? I went
for my weekly visit and the URL was "not found"!

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Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 16:37:50 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Web site updates

Ford Truck Enthusiasts web site updates:

- - Several pictures added to pictorial (let me know if I missed yours, I
have a bunch of pictures that I lost the original email to!).
- - Rotary Lift article added to the tech articles page.
- - Several links added.

The new products pages are nearly complete and will be up tomorrow
night! This will feature products which are available at a discount to
Ford Truck Enthusiasts list members and web site visitors. Items
covering all years will be featured. If these pages do well we'll be
able to expand our free services. Web space has been tight so we
haven't been able to do some of the things we've been wanting to.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 17:05:39 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: June Archives

June list archives are now on the web site. This
includes the new Performance list archives.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:57:55 EDT
From: MichellHC
Subject: FTE Pre61 - drip rails

He is not removing the drip rails Don, just the stainless moulding that covers

Chelle's 56 Hauler
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Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 20:39:37 -0400
From: Paul
Subject: FTE Pre61 - The Tool Black Hole

As I have been test-modifying my left defroster outlet vent so that it
clears the dash gauges but doesn't hit the wiper arm (about 1/8" behind
it--a heck of a design) I have dropped numerous things like lock
washers, nuts, ....even a screwdriver....and hadn't seen hide or hair of
any of them. Please be aware this is a 53 pickup with no carpeting,
etc. to hide things, plus it's painted bright YELLOW just to make it
easier to see. Yes, I do regularly check the lower front bent edge
trough of the dash regularly.
I am a firm believer the Don Neighbors' saying, and want to extend it to
include the cosmic world of the unknown, where the things just don't
fall in a bad place, but where THEY NEVER APPEAR AGAIN!

Hoping I'm not the only one,
Paul Gayda
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Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 20:38:14 -0400
From: "C. Greenlaw"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - C4 Output Shaft

Dan Wentz wrote:

> Also,
> the slip yoke had a lot of up & down and side to side movement that it's
> not supposed to have. I'm thinking it probably bent or loosened up.
> C4 and it doesn't look like any real trick to replace the output shaft. If
> anyone's done this could you give me some pointers--what to look out for,
> etc. Thanks.

Dan, I'll put some cash on the shaft being lots harder to change than you might
think. There's a real good possibility that the neat little bushing just inside
the seal at the end of the output shaft is the problem, it actually supports
the drive shaft yoke. And as far as that goes, make sure your driveshaft is 1:
the correct length, with about 3/4 to 1-1/4" of the yoke shaft outside the
seal, and 2: that the your bushing surface is not worn or pitted with rust.
To get at the bushing, drop the driveshaft, jack slightly and support the
transmission at the pan (use a 2X6 to spread the load) pull out the speedometer
cable, remove the rear trans mount and unbolt the tailshaft housing. Once
unbolted, it slides right out. Be ready for a oil bath at each step. You can
knock out the bushing if it looks bad with any number of homebuilt devices,
long rod, screwdriver, big nail, what have you. You might want it
professionally installed.

Have fun
47 Fred

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Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:48:15 -0000
From: "Don & Lori Felt"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 56 Frame and Clubs


My '56 Effie has been sitting in pieces for a couple of years now, but I'm
looking to start construction soon. I built a 351 Cleveland and a C6 a for
it a while back. I plan to run an IFS with disk brakes, tub the bed,
install a gas tank under the bed, and run a narrowed 9" via Parallel 4-Links
and Coil-Overs.

I need to make a decision on the frame and suspension. I've seen a couple
places advertise complete new frames for F-100s, including No-Limit
Engineering and Fat Man Fabrications. There are also a couple places (I've
spoken with Total Cost Involved, Engineering and Bobco) that will weld the
suspension components onto my frame. I'm not a good enough welder to risk
my life on my welding skills.

There doesn't seem to be a great deal of difference in price between a
pre-fabricated frame and reworking an old one. Is there any pros and cons
to look for before I decide what to do. If I decided to have a new frame
built, what is a good original frame worth? I stripped and painted the
frame, replaced the front kingpins and bushings, had the steering box
rebuilt, bought a new master cylinder and rebuilt the front brakes, and
installed monoleaf reversed eye springs in the front. I haven't touched the

My wife keeps asking me when I'm going to finish HER truck...

Are there any FUN truck clubs in the Long Beach/Orange County areas?

Don Felt
Long Beach, CA

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