pre61-list-digest Friday, July 3 1998 Volume 02 : Number 185



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Re: pre61-list-digest F250-ID and wiring
Re: FTE Pre61 - throw-out bearing
FTE Pre61 - Re: Engine Identity
FTE Pre61 - Re:F250, ID and Wiring
FTE Pre61 - Tranny Change
FTE Pre61 - RE: 1954 F-250 ID
FTE Pre61 - Re: Original?
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Rear suspensions
FTE Pre61 - ID and wiring
FTE Pre61 - drip rail
Re: FTE Pre61 - drip rails/ rain channel
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Rear suspensions

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:04:52 EDT
From: Tstyskal aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: pre61-list-digest F250-ID and wiring

In a message dated 98-07-02 06:37:48 EDT, you write:


locate a VIN plate on the door or in the glove compartment. The title
says the VIN is F25V4K17607. >>

William
you can go to a web site "Recks & Relics" it will give you alot of this info

but here is what I think u got/
F = Ford 25=250, V=239. 4=1954, K=where it was made think Kansas,
17607=manufacturing plant symbol consecutive unit starting at 10001

I ope that heps...as far as the wiring try Mac Antique auto parts or Obsolete
ford parts company.
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 09:10:55 -0500
From: Rich Garber
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - throw-out bearing

At 06:23 PM 7/1/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> I believe my throw-out bearing in my 1947 is shot. There is noise coming
>>from the clutch area which disappears when the clutch is depressed. I have
>>not removed the tranny from one of these before. Do I need to remove the
>>tranny and bellhousing as a unit, or can I just unbolt the transmission
>>itself and get at the bearing. Excuse my ignorance, I am new at this but
>>would like to do it myself. Is there anything else I should know about
>>before I tackle the job?? Thanks in advance.
>> Pat
>>1947 Ford p/u
>>
>>
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>
>It sounds more like the bearing in your transmission :(
>
>Is it full of gear oil?
>
>
My 54 did the same thing, bad throw-out bearing could be the transmission
as well.
1) drop the driveshaft
2) disconnect shift linkage
3) four bolts and remove the transmission.
4) throw-out bearing sits on the clutch fork

5) while its apart, grease the pilot bearing

Rich
54 F100
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 09:34:05 -0400
From: "Abram H. Stauffer"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Engine Identity

>Thanks to Tero & Abe for their help in identiying the engine in my '55 >F100!
>Tero, I don't have the manfold removed. I don't see any numbers on the >heads
>under it using a flashlight. One head has D13 cast into the lower edge
>(flange) toward the front.

>Abe, the casting numbers on the right (passenger) side below the third >plug
>are 94W. Any more thoughts & ideas? Again, I very much appreciate your >help!

>Dusty
>'55 F100
Dusty,
The Numbers/letters '94W' according to Eickman's book mean this:
The first digit is the year (59), the second digit is the month(1-9 is
Jan. to Sept., 0 is Oct., A is Nov., B is Dec.), the third digit is the
day of the month (A thru Z with the exception of I and inverted letters
A through F, that gives you 31 days) W would be the 22nd.
I strongly recommend any one who is serious about their truck to buy a
shop manual and if you still have the YBlock to get Eickman's YBlock
Book! Both are worth their weight in gold!!!
There is supposed to be a number stamped in the top front left side of
the engine that is the complete engine assembly date code. This would
be. This should be just in front of the pushrod chamber cover just under
and in front of the intake manifold.
Abe '54 F-100
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 09:47:19 -0400
From: "Abram H. Stauffer"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re:F250, ID and Wiring

Plain Bill,
'F25V4K17607' should mean: F25 means F250, V means a V-8 (239),
4 means '54, K is the assembly plant (Kansas City, KS), the last digits
are the consecutive unit # starting at 10001.
Good luck, Abe
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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 10:44:37 -0500
From: "photobug"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Tranny Change

I have a family heirloom '51 F3 Hvy Dty pickup with V8 and double clutch 4-spd. My grandfather bought it new and I'm
restoring/customizing it. I like to go as far as possible for as little as possible and so, I'd like to match up a 5-spd overdrive
SYNCHRONIZED transmission to the flathead. I'd like to get the mostest for the leastest, but bottom line is, whatever it takes and
I'll learn while doing. Thanks so much for any and all advice, suggestions you offer. Tom at photobug netnitco.net

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 11:46:12 -0500
From: "davet"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE: 1954 F-250 ID

A good place to look at the VIN number information is at the Old Ford Truck
Club's website at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ww4.choice.net/~oftc/index.htm They have a very
good display of everything in the VIN number deciphered for your
convenience. They have a very nice website and a lot of other good
information, like tech tips.


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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000
From: Andy
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Original?

How would I find out exactly what my truck rolled off the floor with? I just read
about the guys rain gutters (Which my 55 also has) and I want my truck to look
completely stock. This will be a sleeper so the outside needs to look stock at
least.

Andy

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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 23:55:32 -0400
From: Mick Price
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Rear suspensions

> anyone had any experience with either of these types. Pro's or con's about
> I used the mid-fifty's econo pro-street kit on my '53 along with a Lincoln disc brake 9" rear end - no big hassle installing it and you don't have to replace the springs. I have mounted 18.5" Mickeys without clearance problems. I wanted stock looking wheels so Pete Paulsen made me up some 15 X 15 with 9" offset. I need to grind down the E-brake levers a bit for clearance but it's looking good so far. - Mick
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:01:05 EDT
From: MichellHC aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ID and wiring

Dear Bill,

your VIN number F25V4K17607 deciphers as such F25 is the truck serial code
and stands for F-250. The V is the engine code and stands for 8 cylinder 239
CU. The 4 stands for the model year, in your case 1954. The K stands for the
assembly plant Kansas City. The 17607 is the consecutive unit number, each
year starts at 10001 and is numbered consecutively upwards as production
grows.

The wiring diagrams is in the manual for 1954 and shows how turn signals and
everything else in the truck is wired. Sacramento Vintage Ford sells a
exelent reproduction wiring harness.

Michelle
Chelle's 56 Hauler
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 00:11:34 EDT
From: MichellHC aol.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - drip rail

Hi guys,

As for the chrome drip rail moulding. We have a 55 Custom cab that has this
moulding. I have done some research on this and as far as I can determine the
53 to 55 and 56 models all used a stainless type moulding. I am not sure if it
just came on custom cabs only, or was an option. I have seen many custom cabs
with out this moulding, but whos to say that over the years that they have not
been removed for one reason or another. I just do not know the answer to that.

I did find a part numbers for this moulding, it is listed in the parts manual
as
moulding-roof drip finish-front BAAA 8151718-A
moulding-roof drip finish-side r/h BAAA-8151726-A
l/h BAAA-8151727-A
cover -roof drip finish moulding joint-front corner BAAA-8151792-A
also please note the under description it is described as RUSTLESS STEEL
the manual also states 53/55 meaning that these part numbers are good for 53
to 55 models. However as I had said above I have only seen them on 55 models.

As far as removal. My husband removed it from his truck when he had it
painted, and reinstalled it with little or no trouble afterwards.

Michelle
Chelle's 56 Hauler

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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 01:27:09 -0500
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - drip rails/ rain channel

>
> Well I've about abandoned my ideal to shave the drip rails off the 53.
> way too much project for the benefits derived and the risk taken.
>
> Now that this discussion of molding has started and we've determined
> that it is or is not a factory option...
>
> where can you find replacement "stuff" ???
>
> My 53 had it originally but it didn't look factory. Anyway, I haven't
> seen it in any of the catalogs, except for 56 models and I don't
> think that will fit...
>
> any suggestions ???
>
> john


At least it does not decompose. Junkyard time...


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Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 04:22:31 -0400
From: Mick Price
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Rear suspensions

MERCS aol.com wrote:
>
> I have a '55 Ford F-100 that I am hot-rodding. I am trying to find the best
> bang
> for the buck type of rear suspension. I thought about the Mid-fifty F-100's
> econo-
> kit that mounts the leaf springs under the rail instead of the outside of the
> rail, but
> by the time that you buy the kit, and new springs, you have about the same
> amount of money that a Heidts or Total Cost Involved 4-link would be. Has
> anyone had any experience with either of these types. Pro's or con's about
> the
> two, or any other suggestions. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
> in advance.
>
>
> Brian
>
> mercs aol.com
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sorry about the message configuration-BTW those wheels are 9" backspace
so I can still mount street type wheels & tires-Mick....


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