pre61-list-digest Saturday, June 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 174



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Transmission and differential Identification.
FTE Pre61 - Headlight Wiring Concluded
Re: FTE Pre61 - Transmission and differential Identification.
Re: FTE Pre61 - Headlight Wiring Concluded
RE: FTE Pre61 - Headlight Wiring Concluded
FTE Pre61 - Starting a Y block (fwd)
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: New performance list

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:05:06 -0500
From: John_Maciazek Dell.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Transmission and differential Identification.

I have had my '53 F100 for about 25 years. It is currently in storage,
but I am going to get it out and start working on it again (used to be
my daily driver until about 16 years ago. Back then I had bought a 64
Ford Galaxy that had a '66 352 Truck engine and a 4 speed transmission
in it. Obviously I know what the engine is, but how do I ID the
transmission. I believe it was the transmission from the car, rather
than a truck. By ID I mean is it called C6 or something like that.

I had also replaced the rear end. I think I used the rear end out of a
"64 truck (it was a long time ago). Is there any way to ID the
differential?

Thanks in advance! I am really looking forward to getting my truck back
on the road. This was my first vehicle (I'm 42 now), and I should be
able to get it running pretty easily.

Though I might post the story behind this truck. Back when I was a
teenager my father owned a gas station (yep, that's right, the Full
Service kind, wash the windows, check under the hood, $5 of gas meant
something at $.29 a gallon). I bought the truck from me dad when I was
17 for $300 (actually do not think I ever paid him for it). It was
completely original back then with a Flat Head V8. Well, the old flat
heads were not made for a teenager and I do not believe they were made
to go 80 MPH and I ended up cracking the block. I wanted to keep it
original so I found another flathead and stuck it in there, guess what,
I did not learn the first time and cracked the block again. Side note:
Those engines were something, the crank case would fill up with water,
I would the gray sludge out, but a can of some stuff called "Metallic
Seal" in the radiator and be able to drive it for a few hundred mile
until I had to drain the crankcase again. Anyway, after that I decided
to try a 292 (found one for about $50 that they guy said was in good
shape. That worked for a while until my friend was looking to unload
his Galaxy with the 352 in it. Bought the car for $400 buck, rebuilt
the engine and transmission and stuck it in. Worked like a charm until
I put it into retirement.

Now it is time to get it going again. The body is in great shape short
of some surface rust. I do have a bad cylinder in the engine that I
believe must be bad rings due to an oil pump failure (all the other
cylinders have great compression, this one is close to 0). I think I
will try a "ring and valve" job and just hone the cylinders to see if
that does it (engine only has about 50,000 on it after the rebuild).

The only other mechanical problem I have, and maybe someone could help
me with this, is excessive clutch chatter (actually shakes the truck)
when I let the clutch out. This is not too bad since I had mastered the
technique of releasing the clutch I could minimize it. I have replaced
the clutch and the fly wheel, but it still had this problem. I think
that the engine might be slightly crooked, after trying to figure out
why it does this I did measure the distance from the front tip of the
frame to where the crossmember for the motor mounts is bolted on. There
is close to half an inch difference between the sides. Do you think
this might the the problem??

Sorry about the long post and the rambling, love to talk about my truck
though!

John Maciazek
1953 F-100

John Maciazek
X 84555

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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 16:18:25 -0400
From: Stephen Silverthorn
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Headlight Wiring Concluded

Thanks for all the excellent advice on re-wiring my headlights. It seems
the consensus is "do it yourslef and
save some money if you don't mind tinkering". And for those of you who
know me- some of my favorite passtimes are saving a few bucks and
tinkering. So I'm going to make it a do it yourself project.

I noticed in my local parts store that they have replacement sealed beams
(for a 2 light system) that are halogen. I was thinking of replacing my
headlights with these. They say that they are about 3 times brighter. Has
anyone had experience with these lights?

Thanks again for the advice




Steve from Canada
Black 56 Ford, F-100
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 01:13:11 -0500
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Transmission and differential Identification.

>The only other mechanical problem I have, and maybe someone could help
>me with this, is excessive clutch chatter (actually shakes the truck)
>when I let the clutch out. This is not too bad since I had mastered the
>technique of releasing the clutch I could minimize it. I have replaced
>the clutch and the fly wheel, but it still had this problem...

*Do* change the pilot bearing/bushing and the pressure plate. I love family
vehicles. I've been driving my 55 since 71 (before I had my license), It
was my Dad's

Ray C


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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 01:30:01 -0500
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Headlight Wiring Concluded

>Thanks for all the excellent advice on re-wiring my headlights. It seems
>the consensus is "do it yourslef and
>save some money if you don't mind tinkering". And for those of you who
>know me- some of my favorite passtimes are saving a few bucks and
>tinkering. So I'm going to make it a do it yourself project.
>
> I noticed in my local parts store that they have replacement sealed beams
>(for a 2 light system) that are halogen. I was thinking of replacing my
>headlights with these. They say that they are about 3 times brighter. Has
>anyone had experience with these lights?
>
>Thanks again for the advice
>

That's what I use. Between that and the relays, you'll be beaming from
fender to fender :-)

Ray C


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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 01:32:35 -0000
From: "KEVIN R COUGHLIN"
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - Headlight Wiring Concluded

Stephen,

I used the replacement halogen headlights in my 68 Chevelle, calm down, I
know this is a Ford page, haven't tried them in my 54 F100 yet though. They
work great, quite an improvement over the old lights, I would highly
recommend them.

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:01:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Stokes
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Starting a Y block (fwd)

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:30:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Stokes
To: fordtrucks listservice.net
Subject: Starting a Y block (fwd)



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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:18:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Stokes
To: fordtrucks listservice.net
Subject: Starting a Y block

One of my 56's ran 8 months ago when parked. I am getting ready to start
it up again. The motor is the original "Y" block and the fluids
including oil were never drained. (Prior to my ownership). Do I need to
do anything special such as turning the oil pump to prime it or is it good
to go since the oil was never drained out. Of course I would put fresh
oil in it before I started it. Would a little mystery oil in the spark
plug holes be a good idea? Any advice would be appreciated



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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 02:26:13 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: New performance list

The Performance list is now working. This list is for performance
issues, all years are covered. Off-topic posts will be strictly
enforced with this list as I do not want it to take content away
from the other lists. If you want to talk about milage, towing,
looks, etc, post to the appropriate group. If you want to talk
about HP, torque, hot-rodding, building strong engines, etc, then
this is the group (although these issues can be covered in the
existing groups too). This group was started so members can tap
into the vast knowledge base we have - some of which transcends
year/models.

List member Keith Srb will be administering this list so please
send administrative questions to him at herbie netvalue.net.

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