pre61-list-digest Wednesday, June 17 1998 Volume 02 : Number 171

Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1960 and Older trucks and vans
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1947 Ford 1/2 ton pickup project truck or parts truck.
Re: NEED HELP - engine swap 460BBL
Re: 460BBL engine swap
CA smog (NEED HELP - engine swap 460BBL)
F250 Stuff
Restoration tips
Mig Welders
FTE Pre61 - Fwd: F Ford trucks



Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 09:13:10 EDT
Subject: 1947 Ford 1/2 ton pickup project truck or parts truck.

Need help,

My 15 year old daughter found my 1947 Ford 1/2 ton in the weeds where I parked
it soon after she was born (ran outta time). Now she wants it. The bed is OK
and the front fenders and hood can be saved, but the cab and rear fenders are
a mess. The machine shop says the flathead V-8 can be saved. Does anyone have
a fair 42 to 47 parts truck or project truck (making mine the parts truck)?
I'm in California.



Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:22:20 -0700
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: Re: NEED HELP - engine swap 460BBL

>How does putting "this beast" in a 55 F100 beat the Southern Calif smog
>rules? If the engine does not pass smog rules in the Lincoln, I doubt
>putting it in a 55 F100 will change anything from a smog perspective. What
>am I missing here?

In California, all cars built in 1965 or earlier are exempt from smog


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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:58:03 -0700
From: Andy Vandergrifth
Subject: Re: 460BBL engine swap

Before 1972 in California you don't have to smog a car - you can run straight pipes if
you want.



Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 10:45:10 -0700
From: sdelanty
Subject: CA smog (NEED HELP - engine swap 460BBL)

>>How does putting "this beast" in a 55 F100 beat the Southern Calif smog
>>rules? If the engine does not pass smog rules in the Lincoln, I doubt
>>putting it in a 55 F100 will change anything from a smog perspective. What
>>am I missing here?

>In California, all cars built in 1965 or earlier are exempt from smog

Dan, it used to be 1965 but since SB-42 passed last year, models from 73 and
earlier are now exempt also.
I used to have to smog my '71 F100, but I woke up one morning and it had
become smog exempt overnight! (-:


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leans on the doorbell.


Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:25:03 -0400
From: "Paul G."
Subject: F250 Stuff

While purusing one of the local junkyards, I came across this 55 F250
with a neat rear bumper. Looks like about 9" of step area all around
the rear, extending back from the rear wheel cutouts, and about 6"
thick, with marker lights in the rear rounded corners in the thick
A friend said he had seen these before, but was new to me.

Also, since I needed an emergency brake mechanism, I unbolted the handle
from this 250 and noticed that the other end of the cable attached to
what looked like a little drum brake at the rear of the trans, right
there, completely visible through the trans floor hole (not the usual 2
cables to the rear axle).

Nothing earthshaking here, but I just thought I'd pass along some of the
unusual things encountered when examining old trucks.

Paul G.

55 Panel named "panel"
53 Pickup (too new to name)


Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 19:46:42 -0400
From: "Paul G."
Subject: Restoration tips

While looking through my old SoCal catalogue (the cool one with the
babes fondling the truck parts, sometimes in color) I noticed a wealth
of "short cuts" & "tips" on many subjects.
Nothing earthshaking, but just real darn good information...the type of
things you do right the second time, after trying the first time and
starting over. Things to make the job a little easier. Things like how
to cure a drooping glove box door, ways to mount window channel clips,
Anyway, it seems like sharing these tips would be helpful for many of
us on occasion. For example, I saved about 2 hours minimum (my slow
driveway jackstand non airwrench speed) and possible screwups installing
a front sway bar on my stock axle by NOT following one step of the
excellent instructions and spending $8 instead on an extra long drill
bit. If I had one good idea, no telling how many you guys have had!

I could collect these tips and xerox copies in a booklet form, but is
there a possiblity of doing this on the internet?

Much of the short cut knowledge you might take for granted would be a
great help to some of us driveway restoration types.

Just an idea,
Paul G.

55 panel named "meatwagon"
53 pickup named "almost ready to roll"


Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 20:59:08 -0400
From: Trent Shirley
Subject: Mig Welders

Hi Glen,
Most wire feed welders come with an optional gas setup for MIG welding. For most
things you dont need the gas anyway, mostly for stainless steel and aluminum
welding. If your talking about regular steel and sheet metal the wire feed welder
should suite your needs and if you need the gas attachment later they run
somewhere around $100. to add on. Check out the models locally. Lincoln seems to
be a good brand and you can get a decent one for under $300.

Later. Trent

> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:53:10 EDT
> From: RJC988
> Subject: Frame welding!!!!
> Guys,
> It has been a long time since I have posted anything to this list. I think I
> posted this some time in the past, but I don't remember seeing it or any
> replies.
> I have purchased a 5.0 with AOD, EFI, and other computer controls. I might
> try to graft a Towncar front clip to Soapy. Question to those who weld more
> than me: do I need to worry about sensors or other computer wiring frying as I
> weld with the engine in place? I have removed the computer module from the
> donor car. I might have to buy an after-market wiring kit, but would love to
> save the money and use the factory harness. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
> Also, I know that a MIG welder would be much better ot use, but a gasless wire
> feeder is cheaper and I have been offered a stick welder to borrow. WHAT TO
> DO???????
> Glenn Gipson (GN in TN)
> Soapy the '57 F-100


Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:10:48 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Fwd: F Ford trucks

Forward by "executive decision":

From: Scott
Subject: FTE Pre61 - share your story

Had this e-mail sent to me and if you would like to help out then
please e-mail me with your story, wm_69

experience with your F Ford truck. Stuff like; how I got my first F
my Grandma's old F Ford, how I fell in love at a Ford truck roundup,
my most memorable F Ford moment.

I have a publisher. Now I need stories. All published authors will
receive a Free copy of this classic book.


Judy Scott>>

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