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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 04:30:03 -0400 (EDT)
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pre61-list-digest Saturday, May 23 1998 Volume 02 : Number 143



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In this issue:

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FTE Pre61 - Re:
FTE Pre61 - glad to hear from you
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Dist pin shearing
FTE Pre61 - RE: Steve, SOHC 427
FTE Pre61 - Advice on buying 53-55 F100

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 07:00:00 -0500
From: "Mike Morton "
Subject: [none]

>Ken L. wrote:
>Better check that oil pan!!!! Odds are that there is some foreign
objects
>there, most likely dried oil seals that have hardened and broke off and
ended
>up in the oil pan. Be sure to take off the pickup tube and clean the
screen
>out also. I'm speaking from experience because that very thing
happened with
>my 460 in my Lincoln Mark 4.

>Happy hunting, Ken L.

Been there, done that already.
Had the same problem about a month ago. Put in all new seals, new oil
pump, cleaned the pan, pickup, and screen at that time. I took the pan
and oil pump off again this time and didn't find anything. Anybody have
any other ideas? I have had this motor in 3 years and never had any
trouble before. I like working on the truck but sure don't like having
to redo an afternoon's work Plenty of other things to do to her.
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 22:06:42 EDT
From: KLaff61624
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re:

Mike, have you checked the teeth on the cam and distributer gears? If they
are worm bad or one maybe broke, them they maybe binding up and shearing your
pin. Other than that what about the shaft on the distributer, could it be
bent and causing misalignment and breaking your pin? I'm all out of thoughts
on anything else. Good luck!

Ken L.
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 19:17:23 -0700
From: jc & terry
Subject: FTE Pre61 - glad to hear from you

i was overwhelmed at the replys i got. i want to thank everyone for voicing
an opinion, even if you disagreed with me. the point is you took a stand for
what you believed in. this is a forum for the transfer of ideas and should
never become a mutual admiration society. i have several fords but even if i
had none i would still want to hear all sides. how else could i make an
informed decision? just up and believe you are right 'cause you think so.
should i never try pork because you only eat beef? i respect all opinions,
even the ones that i disagree with. the difference between a ford lover and
an anti-alternative brand fanatic is this. a ford lover loves fords. an
alternative brand fanatic hates other brands and wants you to hate them
also. why do i have to be one or the other? can i not love fords and love
others also. if you have more than one child do you love one more than the
other? they are different but is one less than the other. i am a motorhead
and will never refuse to see the rest of the forest while i hug one tree. i
dream of that 427 with the 2 fours, i dream of that 426 hemi with the 6-71
and dual distributors, i dream of that punched out 500 caddy. what will i
end up with? whatever i want. and when i get it i will never make fun of you
because you don't have one and tell you to look for another list. i will
tell you instead to go after YOUR dream and don't ever let anyone get in
your way.
i was offered a lot of good advice as to the switch and maybe i'll think
awile, maybe not. in the meantime i'm gonna cruise my bird to the pacific
ocean this weekend. BTW it's all ford, i hope that is ok with everybody. and
i want you to know that i don't take this too seriously so don't anybody get
their feelings hurt. i love this list. all of it.

PS i would like to see that 5.0 fred.



T-bird Terry

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 22:26:19 -0500
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Dist pin shearing

I have had the counterweights in dist bind up (using newer dist) against
the housing and I have had the shaft dry up and seize in the dist housing
(old ones). Could you try a harder pin? Are the bushings tight? Could the
oil pump regulator be set too high or sticking? Does it happen on a cold
engine with thick oil? Is the pin loose in the shaft so that it hammers? I
don't know. Just typing out loud...

ray c


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 23:04:39 -0500
From: "wild.bunch"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - RE: Steve, SOHC 427

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Steve: As I recall, NASCAR rules in 1965 allowed wedge motors 2x4 =
carburetion and hemis 1x4. I'd guess the 1x4 (another picture is in =
Petersen's Complete Ford Book) is for NASCAR and the 2x4 for the street. =
This was similar to the 66 427 Cobras: the "street" version came with =
2x4s and the "race" version with 1x4, but the race turned the quarter a =
second faster: 12.2 sec. Later Tunnel Port 427s (several years after the =
SOHC) had both 2x4 and 1x4 manifolds, too. The 2x4 was dual plane and =
the 1x4, designed for NASCAR, was a single plane. Back to Ford trucks, I =
can't see any reason why anyone would be ashamed to have any of these in =
an F1 or F100. I liked an article I have from '67 that asks: =
"Bonneville, Daytona, LeMans, Sebring. Funny? Ask the man who didn't own =
one." (Referring to Ferrari.) Nice to dream about, but I'm not feeling =
left out. My Y is as honest a piece of Dearborn iron as any, and it =
makes me happy. PS: Check out Car Craft, May 1969 for a comprehensive =
description of Ed Pink's SOHC 427s. Like those red-hot manifolds on your =
site pic!
tim

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 03:19:35 -0000
From: "Dallas Lowrey"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Advice on buying 53-55 F100

Hello everyone,
I have some questions about buying a 53-55 F100 (OK, maybe a big
window 56). What I want is something "decent". I can't afford "nice" or
"fancy", and I don't have the time for a "rebuilder". Actually, I have
time, but I lack patience :) With a total budget of ~$3000 what can I
expect to get? There are, however, stipulations. The truck must run. If I
can't jump in the truck and run to the store for milk and eggs, my wife
won't let me buy it. I have a garage and some basic hand tools, but I am
definitely not a mechanic. Next, I live near Chicago, so I know that rust
will be a problem. What are the hard to fix spots that I should avoid? Cab
corners?
As far as originality, it'd be nice to have an all original
truck, but being realistic, a newer small block and tranny will probably
go in if I can't find a truck with it already installed.
Eventually, I want my truck safe and reliable enough to be my daily
driver. That means ~30 miles each way to work, mostly interstate. At the
very least, I know that the steering, brakes, and suspension will need
updating, and probably some higher gears in the rear-end. Not to mention
the million little things that you never think about. But, this is in the
future, and I don't need a truck at this level to start with (although it
would be nice)
I could go one forever with my wish list, but I'll stop here. Please
tell me if I'm being realistic, or what to expect when looking, etc. I
probably start "shopping" this summer, and would like to find a truck
before the cold weather hits in the fall. I don't want to rush in and find
out a month later that I'm way over my head, so any and all advice is
appreciated. Thanks for your time.

Dallas Lowrey
3dlowrey email.msn.com


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