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pre61-list-digest Friday, May 22 1998 Volume 02 : Number 142



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - SOHC 427 RE: Don
Re: FTE Pre61 - SOHC 427 RE: Don
Re: FTE Pre61 - whiners may rejoice
Re: FTE Pre61 - vacuum wipers
Re: FTE Pre61 - SOHC 427 RE: Don
Re: FTE Pre61 - SOHC 427 RE: Don

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 22:48:44 -0500
From: "wild.bunch"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - SOHC 427 RE: Don

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Don:
Hearing you talk about that SOHC reminded me of the first one I saw =
- - my impression was the same. I always had a "schoolboy crush" on those =
motors. The first one I saw was about 1972, in a boat. No doubt, they =
certainly are an impressive sight. Ford intended them for NASCAR, =
bringing them out in 1965 to compete against the 426 Hemi, which came =
out a year before. NASCAR (who brought you restrictor plate racing) =
decided to forbid the motor, and Ford then sold them over the counter =
for $5000. They were all 2x4 carbed and put out 616 bhp at 7000 rpm =
stock and became quite popular in top fuel and funny cars. The SOHC =
Mickey Thompson funny was one of the most dominant drag cars of all =
time. I didn't have the $2500 used ones went for in my younger days, but =
I might be tempted to swap my Y for one now. Maybe.

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Don:
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SOHC reminded me of the first one I saw - my impression was the same. I =
always=20
had a "schoolboy crush" on those motors. The first one I saw =
was about=20
1972, in a boat. No doubt, they certainly are an impressive sight. Ford =
intended=20
them for NASCAR, bringing them out in 1965 to compete against the 426 =
Hemi,=20
which came out a year before. NASCAR (who brought you restrictor plate =
racing)=20
decided to forbid the motor, and Ford then sold them over the counter =
for $5000.=20
They were all 2x4 carbed and put out 616 bhp at 7000 rpm stock and =
became quite=20
popular in top fuel and funny cars. The SOHC Mickey Thompson funny was =
one of=20
the most dominant drag cars of all time. I didn't have the $2500 used =
ones went=20
for in my younger days, but I might be tempted to swap my Y for one now. =

Maybe.

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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 21:56:14 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - SOHC 427 RE: Don

>
> Hearing you talk about that SOHC reminded me of the first one I saw -
my impression was the same. I always had a "schoolboy crush" on those
motors. The first one I saw was about 1972, in a boat. No doubt, they
certainly are an impressive sight. Ford intended them for NASCAR, bringing
them out in 1965 to compete against the 426 Hemi, which came out a year
before. NASCAR (who brought you restrictor plate racing) decided to forbid
the motor, and Ford then sold them over the counter for $5000. They were all
2x4 carbed and put out 616 bhp at 7000 rpm stock and became quite popular in
top fuel and funny cars.
>
>

Cammers are mighty cool! I've never seen one in person, but lots of
pictures of them. Not all of them were 2x4 carbed tho, there was also
a single 4bbl version. I thought the 616hp number was for the single
4bbl setup and the 2x4 carb was something like 660-670. I might be
totally wrong... anyone got cammer specs out there?
For a .jpg of a 1x4bbl Cammer on the dyno goto:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/show-n-tell/cammer.jpg


Steve

Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/

"When you stop learning, stop listening, stop looking
and asking questions, always new questions,
then it is time to die." -- Lillian Smith

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 01:51:37 -0500
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - whiners may rejoice

>thought it was time to give some of the whiners a chance to rejoice. ol'
>T-bird Terry was cranking some smoke at a redlight the other day just to
>wacth the bewildered looks of the pimpled face little boys in the mustang
>5.0 next to him and as he hit a fishtailin' third gear , KABLOOEY, number 4
>rod exited through the cast iron of the small block chevy and left me to
>pull the "old red dog" 59 to the side of the road and wait for the tow
>truck. now what to do? started checking the papers for another sbc or a bbc
>and nothing to be had. noticed a pile of fomoco motors of all vintages and
>sizes, a very unusual sight, and my eye caught a blip that said "77 460 and
>c-6, hear it run, $400". mighty tempting i thought. big block power and a
>workable price. now i'm checking the availability of motor mounts( ford to
>chevy front clip). tranny is no big deal. may run the bbf for a year or so
>till i can put together the ultimate change over "500 ci caddy". lot of time
>and money to be spent there. oh well, thats what i love about my truck.
>doin' what others don't. see chevy, ford, chrysler, it doesn't matter. if
>the price is right and you get what you want, let others whine and leave the
>driving to us. i'll let you know how the 460 runs out. you keep us posted on
>your next whine. i'm just glad i could give you guys a few minutes to gloat
>over the sbc biting the dust. before you break your arm patting yourself on
>the back i have to tell you i had the 5.0 daylighted by the time i hit 2nd
>and by 21/2 cars when she went. oh well, now it's just another b.s. story i
>can tell to my grandkids. 460 here i come.
>
>T-bird Terry
>

Hey Terry,
Good to hear from you for a change, even if it's just another b.s. story. I
got a 1970 caddy engine and tranny in good shape for sale for $200. Dare I
say here that I almost rodded a 1937 dual sidemount caddy. Came to my
senses and sold it to a limo company. Too bad you weren't near
Massachusetts.

Ray C


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 01:31:21 -0500
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - vacuum wipers

>Ray C. wrote
>
>>I just bought a mint vacuum wiper motor with all the linkages at a swap
>>meet for $20 to be part of converting my 54 cabover to 12 volts.
>
>Here we go again Ray. My 56 had elec. wipers and they only worked on one
>speed, Bob and I parted out a 79 Ford p/u a couple of years ago and the parts
>from this truck has been a gold mine for my 56. I used parts of the wiring
>harness on my 56. The point I am getting ready to make is the elec. wiper
>motor can be adapted to the 56 with relitive ease. I first fabricated a new
>mounting plate for the wiper motor using the old one for a template, and put a
>bend in it like the old one, next I marked the mounting holes for the 79 wiper
>motor, and drilled them. next I had to reindex the bellcrank on the wiper
>motor so the wipers would park correctly. That was all there was to replacing
>it, now I have intermittent wipers as a bonus, I just added the intermittent
>switch and the timer box, they plugged right into the 79 wiring harness. You
>can still use this wiper motor with the stock harness just by consulting a
>wiring diagran. These motors are much poiwerfull and more efficent that the
>stock ones. I know you said 54, but I am just as sure if I did this to my 56
>that you could mount the elec. wiper motor under the dash of your 54 in a
>like manner.
>
>Michelle


Food for thought...
Thanks,
Ray


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 01:50:46 -0400
From: "John Miller"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - SOHC 427 RE: Don

Gents that Cammer had a sound so sweet to the ears it was something to
behold. I was lucky enough to be out walking around checking out the trucks
on the first nite I arrived to the Nats (Wed.) and saw him startup,unload
from the trailer and do a little cruising before taking his place for the
show. He did fire it up a couple times after that in the evening after the
crowds died down. This thing was tuned well enough that literally he just
pulled into a parking lot with his tow vehicle and opened the trailer,
climbed in and took off. He was running something other than "gas", had a
nice alcohol smell to it. It's been awhile since I've been around racing
fuel so I couldn't really identify it for sure but I would say nitro, am I
correct or is it just like CAM2 or something similar?? Just one more thing
to add, that first nite it was really cool sitting out on the balcony and
identifying which trucks were running Fords and which were running brand X,
it was sweet.

John Miller, FoMoCoNUT Gibralter.net
96 F-350 Reg Cab XLT, 4x4, 460 w/ A4OD, My Baby "Baloo"
75 F-100 Reg Cab Ranger, 2wd, 360, C6, Daily Driver " Lucy"
and "always" looking ! ! !
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:11:51 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - SOHC 427 RE: Don

John Miller wrote:

> . He was running something other than "gas", had a
> nice alcohol smell to it. It's been awhile since I've been around racing
> fuel so I couldn't really identify it for sure but I would say nitro, am I
> correct or is it just like CAM2 or something similar??

Lately Most of the HI-Performance people I know run TRICK raceing fuel or a
quart or 2 of alchohol and the rest 91 octane, some of the barely "street" guys
even run a quart of alchoholthen fill it up with trick.

> Just one more thing
> to add, that first nite it was really cool sitting out on the balcony and
> identifying which trucks were running Fords and which were running brand X,
> it was sweet.

Not hard to tell who's "TRU BLUE" is it..

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85 Bronco 300 IL6 4x4
97 F-150 4.6 sb ext cab 4x4
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