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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 04:30:03 -0400 (EDT)
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pre61-list-digest Friday, May 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 133



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1960 and Older trucks and vans
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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - Neal's Y-block Fuel Pump
FTE Pre61 - Neal Forbes - Fuel Pump
FTE Pre61 - steering columns
FTE Pre61 - steering columns
FTE Pre61 - 60's Mustang Web Sites
Re: FTE Pre61 - Tilt Steering column
Re: FTE Pre61 - steering columns
FTE Pre61 - Re: pre61-Tilt Steering Column
FTE Pre61 - Having a blast in Pigeon Forge
FTE Pre61 - Brakes and cooling systems (fwd)
Re: FTE Pre61 - steering columns
FTE Pre61 - Wow Man, Cool
Re: FTE Pre61 - steering columns
Re: FTE Pre61 - Wow Man, Cool

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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 06:51:07 -0400
From: "Don & Teresa Neighbors"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Neal's Y-block Fuel Pump

Neal, my truck had the same pump on it when I got it, but it had been on
the truck for around 25 years by the time it was started again. I replaced
it with an aftermarket rebuilt pump that has a little metal cap where the
acetylene bowl used to be. It points up, too.

Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover


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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 08:09:48 -0600
From: "Piegat, Tim"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Neal Forbes - Fuel Pump

It sounds the timing cover that you have is from the 54 F100 and someone has
swapped a 292 for the old 239. This is a common arrangement, since the truck
timing cover requires mounting bosses for the front motor mount but later
292 cars (which usually are the "donor" vehicles) don't, using center motor
mounts. The truck timing cover in 54 mounted the fuel pump with the sediment
bowl pointed up, later motors had the bowl pointing down. Some of the later
pumps are interchangeable with FE pumps. Another item to watch with these
timing covers is the water pump, since 54 water pumps are about 3/4" smaller
(in diameter) and won't swap with the 55 and up larger pump. If your swap
kept the 239 timing cover, you'll need the small water pump.
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 12:21:51 EDT
From: MichellHC
Subject: FTE Pre61 - steering columns

Dear Trent,
I used a steering column from a 79 Ford pick up in my 56. I did have to
shorten it by a few inches to make it fit correctly. I have found that the
73-79 Ford pickups make great organ doner vihicles. If you should need
something longer than what comes in the pickup, go for the column in a Ford
Van They are identical to the ones in the pick up except for being several
inches longer. If you want the ign switch in the column go for a 80 model or
later, my preference was with out the ign, sw, that is why I got the 79 model.
I think this is a much better alternative than buying a aftermarket one.
Besides being high dollar, most use GM patrs. When my truck is finished, at
least I can say that my truck is ALL FORD.

Michelle
Chell's 56 Hauler
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 12:34:10 EDT
From: MichellHC
Subject: FTE Pre61 - steering columns

Dear friends on this board,
I had made a post about steering columns and my truck being all Ford. That
comment on my truck being all Ford was strictly my personal preference. No pun
intended to any one with GM, Mopar, or any other make parts in there truck, I
love ya all, and your trucks too.

Michelle
Chell's 56 Hauler
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:29:44 -0500
From: "davet"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - 60's Mustang Web Sites

I still have my '52 F-1, but I bought a '67 Mustang fastback to fix up and
give to my son when he graduates next year. Does anyone have the address of
any good Mustang sites or a digest site similar to this one?



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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:50:21 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Tilt Steering column

Hit your local junk yard & grab a tilt column out of an escort...
It may sound strange but trust me it works and you get to run a ford column.
Plust the escort column has a ujoint setup already in place wich makes it
easy to route thru the fire wall to your stearing box... I would recomend
waiting till you get the new front end before changeing stearing column..
Ray Cardogno wrote:

> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >I am hoping someone can give me advice on the best steering column to
> >replace the original in my 60-F100.
> >I am planning on getting one of the IFS kits next year so I figured I
> >would begin this year updating the column and adding a newer master
> >cylinder and vacuum booster.
> >
> >What years/model vehicles should I look at or am I better off buying one
> >of the columns sold aftermarket in the custom rod magazines? I will of
> >course want to incorporate the turn signal switch so will I need
> >additional parts from any donor vehicle?
> >
> >Later. Trent
> >
>
> I used the column, booster, and grabbed the complete harness from my IFS
> doner vehicle, a 78 Aspen. All worked great.
>
> Ray C
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 15:56:50 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - steering columns

I on the other hand am no where near as forgiving. If you are gonna own a Ford
make sure It's a
Ford to the core... putting a chevy engine in a Ford is a: sacreligious.. b: a
hangable offense...

MichellHC wrote:

> Dear friends on this board,
> I had made a post about steering columns and my truck being all Ford. That
> comment on my truck being all Ford was strictly my personal preference. No pun
> intended to any one with GM, Mopar, or any other make parts in there truck, I
> love ya all, and your trucks too.

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QTH: Victor ID, grid# DN431c
ICQ #3834602
kc7ypj pdt.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/5496


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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:27:31 EDT
From: FRD56F100
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: pre61-Tilt Steering Column

I am not sure about which steering column is the best, but No Limit
Engineering says that most classic trucks use a 32" column. And for rear
steer I.F.S. units like camaro, nova, volare, you should use a 30" column. I
am currently using one out of a 1980 oldsmobile cutlass supreme and I am not
too satisfied with it. I will probably replace it as soon as I find a better
one.

Joe

frd56f100 aol.com
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:29:41 EDT
From: FoMoCoNUT2
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Having a blast in Pigeon Forge

This is Ken Payne, using John Miller's laptop from the Pigeon Forge
F100 Supernationals. Just wanted to let everyone know we're having
a blast. The show hasn't even started yet an already 8 list members
has stopped by.

Deacon, you're missed!

Well gotta, go. Running out of battery power.

Ken,
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts.
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 21:56:43 -0600 (MDT)
From: Darcy Lee Davis
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Brakes and cooling systems (fwd)

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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:26:31 -0600 (MDT)
From: Darcy Lee Davis
To: fordtrucks
Subject: Brakes and cooling systems

I was just trying to remove the old cylinders on my '48 F68, but was
unable to remove the drums on the back. The tire is off, and I carefully
knocked each of the 8 studs out of the back plate, however the drum
still refuses to budge. There are 3 (?) large screws amongst the studs.
Could these hold on the drums? If not, are there any ideas for removing
the drum short of a large size sledge.
As well, I just had my radiator recored, and was going to put it back in.
However, the inside of the block is well rusted, and I'd hate to plug up
the new rad with rust flakes. Is it possible to clean this out or coat it
to prevent flakes in the coolent. I don't want to tear down the block
unless I absolutely have to.
Thanks,
Darcy 3x48 F68


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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 01:05:52 -0500
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - steering columns

>least I can say that my truck is ALL FORD.
>
>Michelle
>Chell's 56 Hauler

What is your 56 Hauler? I remember you making reference to a larger truck
in the past. Just wondering, cus I like the bigger trucks too (in addition
to the small ones).

Therefore, along the same line, does your truck (or anyone else on the
list?) have suicide split rims? I beleive they were on the F-500 and 600
sizes. I got a bad air leak in my front right tire today coming through the
rim seam. When I shut off the truck I heard the air and thought I was
overheating. Then I discovered the tire leak and rushed across town to a
tire place before It went flat. They would not fix it because of the
suicide rim. They've been fixing them for me for over ten years, but a
couple months ago they said they did'nt want to do them "next time" because
they've been illegal for over 5 years in Massachusetts. They told me today
that The Dept of Transportation would immediately impound the vehicle if I
was cought using those rims. Have you ever heard such a thing?

Does anyone know where I can get the newer style split-rims with the
locking ring? My trucks runs 7.50/8.25/9.00 x 20-inch tires. We're talking
18 of these stinkin' things, not to mention the labor cost. Even if I could
just get 1 to start and upgrade as I need tires/repairs.

Remenber, you gotta love it,

Ray C


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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 01:52:49 -0500
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Wow Man, Cool

>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:26:31 -0600 (MDT)
>From: Darcy Lee Davis
>To: fordtrucks
>Subject: Brakes and cooling systems
>
>I was just trying to remove the old cylinders on my '48 F68, but was
>unable to remove the drums on the back. The tire is off, and I carefully
>knocked each of the 8 studs out of the back plate, however the drum
>still refuses to budge. There are 3 (?) large screws amongst the studs.
>Could these hold on the drums? If not, are there any ideas for removing
>the drum short of a large size sledge.
>As well, I just had my radiator recored, and was going to put it back in.
>However, the inside of the block is well rusted, and I'd hate to plug up
>the new rad with rust flakes. Is it possible to clean this out or coat it
>to prevent flakes in the coolent. I don't want to tear down the block
>unless I absolutely have to.
>Thanks,
>Darcy 3x48 F68
>

Don't do this is , but it worked for me. I had a 400 engine that
overheated, despite reworked radiator, high velocity fan, and new water
pump. I took the main water pump hoses and shunted them together with a
peice of tubing and shunted the heater in/out also. Next I put a quart of
the high powered sulfuric acid drain cleaner that licensed plumbers can buy
into the temporarily disconnected main hose that was previously filled with
water - minus about a quart for acid displacement (wow man...). I
reconnected the hose, started the engine and ran the sucker at a lo idle
till it was up to temp. Then I let it cool down for about 30 minutes and
disconnected the heater hoses. Next I connected 1 end of the heater hose to
a garden hose and ran the engine for about an hour with a fresh water purge
discharging from the other open heater hose. (I tried to be very careful
not to introduce too much volume of cold water to prevent cold spot
cracking) You wouldn't beleive the #$%T that came out for the first couple
of minutes :o Clean as a whistle. Never overheated again. It took a little
bit of nerve I might add. The stuff is rated for cast iron pipes so I
figured it was close enough. What good is a motor that runs too hot anyhow.
Most of these magic soak-the-rust-out-of-your-parts-potions are merely
acids. DISSCLAIMER: I am not suggesting you do this, as it could be
dangerous, but it is what I did and it worked. Just thought I'd share it
for Yuks. Sorry, I got carried away.


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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 01:17:07 -0500
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - steering columns

>I on the other hand am no where near as forgiving. If you are gonna own a
>Ford
>make sure It's a
>Ford to the core... putting a chevy engine in a Ford is a: sacreligious..
>b: a
>hangable offense...
>

Get off it Ryan,
I'm not gonna take the Yugo column out of my Cabover.
Ray C :-)


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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 01:56:47 EDT
From: Fordf3
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Wow Man, Cool

You have to remove the 3 screws
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