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pre61-list-digest Tuesday, May 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 123



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In this issue:

FTE Pre61 - front trans mount?
Re: FTE Pre61 - front trans mount?
Re: FTE Pre61 - adjusting doors
FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Digest info
FTE Pre61 - Power Steering
FTE Pre61 - A couple of things...
FTE Pre61 - who's going to Pigeon forge ?
FTE Pre61 - Arm Rests
FTE Pre61 - door adjustment
FTE Pre61 - Big Block Switch
Re: FTE Pre61 - Arm Rests
FTE Pre61 - adjusting doors
Re: FTE Pre61 - who's going to Pigeon forge ?
Re: FTE Pre61 - Arm Rests
FTE Pre61 - primer finish
Re: FTE Pre61 - Arm Rests
Re: FTE Pre61 - primer finish
Re: FTE Pre61 - primer finish
FTE Pre61 - Re: Gauge Voltage Regulator
Re: FTE Pre61 - Mixing Primer with Clearcoat?
RE: FTE Pre61 - primer finish
Re: FTE Pre61 - primer finish
Re: FTE Pre61 - who's going to Pigeon forge ?
Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Gauge Voltage Regulator
FTE Pre61 - test test test

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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 12:23:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jan
Subject: FTE Pre61 - front trans mount?

Have found a source for the rear trans mounts, but
nothing for the front one. Anyone recently purchased
these and know a source or have a part number for it?

Got a '55 223 engine in my '53 F-250.

Thanks,
Jan
"Louise," the Can-tank-erous
who's having her gas tank repaired today.
Leaking around the fuel output as it turns out,
not the seam. Hooray!

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 14:54:44 -0500
From: Rich Garber
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - front trans mount?

At 12:23 PM 5/4/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Have found a source for the rear trans mounts, but
>nothing for the front one. Anyone recently purchased
>these and know a source or have a part number for it?
>
>Got a '55 223 engine in my '53 F-250.
>
>Thanks,
>Jan

Macs auto 800-777-0948. The front motor mount is two peices.
The upper is #B5S-6038-A and is $16.95
The lower is #TAAA-6039-A and is 8.85

Rich
54 F100
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 15:03:45 -0500
From: Rich Garber
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - adjusting doors

>Didn't mess with the two bolts holding the hinge assembly to the cab yet.
>They didn't seem to want to move much when loose, 'course they have been
>painted in, too.
>
>Harrumph. Any other suggestions?
>
>Jan
>Louise the '53 F-250
>

The procedure is located on page 371 of the 54-55 service manual.
If you can't get it adjusted with the hinge bolts chances are (your
not going to like this)they need to be bent. The manual shows a jig
that will bend the door to fit.

If you don't have access to the manual, I can copy it, scan it and
email it out. Just tell me what format you want it in and give me a
couple of days.

Rich
54 F100
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 17:46:47 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Pre61 - ADMIN: Digest info

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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 18:14:40 -0400
From: "KENNETH D MARTY"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Power Steering

Hello all: I have a 55 F100 and want to put Mustang II IFS on it, whats the
pros & cons of power steering with this setup thanks.

K.Marty 55 F100


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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 18:35:57 -0400
From: "Don & Teresa Neighbors"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - A couple of things...

Jan wrote: "All right, I know this may be beyond basic, but I wonder if
anyone can talk
to me about adjusting the doors so they fit better into the cab. My
passenger side door tilts down at the lock so I can see sky (about 3/8")
and the seal doesn't meet the frame...."
Jan, I'm going to make a SWAG (Sophisticated Wild A** Guess) about your
door. You might try raising the door a tad too high before tightening the
bolts and see if that helps. My concern is that maybe the hinges are
sagging with age, or that the hinge mounts are doing the same. I looked at
Grover's hinges, and I don't think you'll get any adjustment where the
hinges are mounted to the cab.

Hey Rich!! The dome light I got from you is in, and it works great! The
door switches are a little reluctant, but some electronics cleaning spray
will help that little problem.

Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 17:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: FTE Pre61 - who's going to Pigeon forge ?


did we ever get a list of who's going to the Nat's

I am wondering who to look for?

john
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 19:09:23 -0400
From: "Howard Tarnoff"
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Arm Rests

I am not certain if this message posted before or not. I had a change in
E-mail address.

Anyhow, I want to know if any of you know for certain what material was
used to cover the pad on stock arm rests for the 55 F100.

Thanks
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 19:37:36 EDT
From: MichellHC
Subject: FTE Pre61 - door adjustment

Hi Jan,

Just a quick note about adjusting your doors on your 53. To bring the top of
your door inward toward the cab to close the gap between the door and the cab,
you will have to loosen the hinge from the cab. You had mentioned that you
loosened the two bolts that attached the hinge to the cab. There is a third
bolt in each hinge, it is located in the hollow area of the hinge assembly.
Open the door as wide as possible and look inside the recess that the open
hinge reveals and you will see the third bolt. By loosing the the hinge to the
cab you will be able to move the door in or out from the cab. By loosing the
bolts from the door to the hinge you can move the door forward of backward.
Another thing to consider is how good is your door rubber. If it is compressed
too much you may never be able to cloose it up. Another problem I have found
with these trucks is if one has ever been wrecked. or the doors replaced from
another truck, there is sometimes a problem also. We have a 55 that we
adjusted the doors all the way in and also put new door rubbers on and it
still did not fit as close as it should. You could see daylight past the
rubber with the door closed. We had to bend the top of the door in with a
come-along to make it fit properly. I have seen in the manual a jig that you
can put the door in to bend the top out of in, but I have never seen one in
the flesh. Try adjusting the door all the way in first and if that dont work
you may try to bend the top in a little, but be carefull, not bend it too much
or damage it.

Michelle
Chell's Hauler
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 19:37:43 EDT
From: MichellHC
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Big Block Switch

Hi Burke,

The C-6 you have behind your 351 W will not work behind the 429 CJ motor. You
will have to use a big block C-6. All Ford small blocks ie 260, 289, 302,
351W, 351C use the same bell housing pattern. The 351M, 400, 429, 460 all use
the same bell housing pattern, which is different from the small block you now
have. The problen with a C-6 is that the bell housing is cast right to the
tranny case and can't be seperated from the tranny, the only solution it to
get a big block C-6. The good news is these trannys are plentuful and easily
found at very resonable prices.

Michelle
Chelle's 56 Hauler
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 20:21:03 -0400
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Arm Rests

>I want to know if any of you know for certain what material was
>used to cover the pad on stock arm rests for the 55 F100.
>
>Thanks

Howard, I just checked my orig 55 custom cab and it is covered with *black*
leather-grained vinyl(or some other vinyl-like compound) fabric-backed
material. The door panels are grey, but the arm rests are black. The
material on mine is in fine shape on the edge but gone in the middle,
revealing the fabric. The leather texture is quite defined with a good
amount of releif to the texture.

Hope this helps,

Ray C


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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 21:20:25 EDT
From: KLaff61624
Subject: FTE Pre61 - adjusting doors

Jan , the pin that is in your hinge is probally rusted almost into. It sounds
like you need to replace it. Also if your door latch is lower than it needs
to be , then it will pull the back side of the door down. If you did not
raise your latch after adjusting the door , then please try doing so , I think
that will solve your problem.

Ken L.
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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 21:27:11 EDT
From: KLaff61624
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - who's going to Pigeon forge ?

not a list, but I'm going and I saw about 3 others that said they were going.
boy it sure would be nice if we did have a list and a planned time to gather
around Ken's booth to meet each other.


Ken L..
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 21:57:42 -0500
From: Rich Garber
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Arm Rests

At 08:21 PM 5/4/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>I want to know if any of you know for certain what material was
>>used to cover the pad on stock arm rests for the 55 F100.
>>
>>Thanks
>
>Howard, I just checked my orig 55 custom cab and it is covered with *black*
>leather-grained vinyl(or some other vinyl-like compound) fabric-backed
>material. The door panels are grey, but the arm rests are black. The
>material on mine is in fine shape on the edge but gone in the middle,
>revealing the fabric. The leather texture is quite defined with a good
>amount of releif to the texture.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Ray C,

Is that the color of the seat as well? I thought the arm rest matched the
two tone color of the seat?

Rich
54 F100

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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 20:25:17 -0700
From: jc & terry
Subject: FTE Pre61 - primer finish

And if it's a finish
coat, does it need a primer coat? I'd appreciate input from anybody whose
done this or knows something about it. Thanks.

i am not sure of the paint that is used but the ones i have seen are plain
primer. i believe that a clear would make too much shine even if it was
mixed. the street rodders have been doing this for at least 3 years now that
i have seen. they have used multiple shades beside the standard red, gray
and black. i have seen orchid, green(pukey), a gorgeous brown, yellow,
orange. probably others i havn't seen. i have also seen them decorated with
a great set of pinstrip flames. in the street rod business it is referred to
as a "suede" paint job. i think it would be cool and a whole lot less costly
as well as easier to repair. i rode a harley for 3 years one time in primer
red and the scratches were a cinch to repair. plus i was really satisfied
when we were at daytona for the bike races and out of 100 or more black and
blue harleys, that to the untrained eye were identical, someone would always
speak up and say "hey, who's riding the primer red?". at least mine got noticed.
T-bird Terry
T-bird Terry

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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 23:33:27 -0400
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Arm Rests

>At 08:21 PM 5/4/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>>I want to know if any of you know for certain what material was
>>>used to cover the pad on stock arm rests for the 55 F100.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>
>>Howard, I just checked my orig 55 custom cab and it is covered with *black*
>>leather-grained vinyl(or some other vinyl-like compound) fabric-backed
>>material. The door panels are grey, but the arm rests are black. The
>>material on mine is in fine shape on the edge but gone in the middle,
>>revealing the fabric. The leather texture is quite defined with a good
>>amount of releif to the texture.
>>
>>Hope this helps,
>>
>>Ray C,
>
>Is that the color of the seat as well? I thought the arm rest matched the
>two tone color of the seat?
>
>Rich
>54 F100
>

The seat was grey. It's now red. ???


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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 23:43:03 -0400
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - primer finish

>And if it's a finish
>coat, does it need a primer coat? I'd appreciate input from anybody whose
>done this or knows something about it. Thanks.
>
>i am not sure of the paint that is used but the ones i have seen are plain
>primer... i think it would be cool and a whole lot less costly
>as well as easier to repair....
>T-bird Terry

I like the sound of that. How about a milk truck in blotches of black and
white primer. I could call it the HerFORD. Maybe even talk my wife into
driving it. T-bird you're a *genious*!


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Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 23:49:50 -0400
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - primer finish

>>i am not sure of the paint that is used but the ones i have seen are plain
>>primer... i think it would be cool and a whole lot less costly
>>as well as easier to repair....
>>T-bird Terry
>
>I like the sound of that. How about a milk truck in blotches of black and
>white primer. I could call it the HerFORD. Maybe even talk my wife into
>driving it. T-bird you're a *genious*!
>

OK, so I'm no farmer make it Brown and white. Just looked up a herford and
it was brown/white. Sorry about all the cow stuff. I didn't mean to milk it.

Ray C


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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 00:00:30, -0500
From: GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)
Subject: FTE Pre61 - Re: Gauge Voltage Regulator

I installed my new 7806 6 Volt voltage regulator this weekend. It
puts out 6 Volts exactly. Now I can trust my fuel gauge.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V
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Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 22:40:41 -0700
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Mixing Primer with Clearcoat?

To get a "Primered" paint job, you do the
>whole prep job just like usual, but the top coats are mixed with flatting
>agent, sometimes called "sunburn" agent. This product, used by all paint
stores
>to produce flat or semi gloss paint is what gives the primer look. The
more you
>use the flatter it gets, it can be used with any color, but usually red or
>black. It works on one-shot jobs like acrylic enamel, or on base-clear, in
>which case the clear is flattened.

I think I get it, just let me check. It's a regular black paint, but has
something in it to make it look flat? Makes sense to me, thanks!

~Dan

1992 Ford Mustang LX
1950 Ford F1, 351C-2V (Battery is going back under the hood!)
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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 08:10:13 -0400
From: Alec Fernandez
Subject: RE: FTE Pre61 - primer finish

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Cardogno [SMTP:abcinc tiac.net]
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 1998 11:50 PM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - primer finish
>
>
> OK, so I'm no farmer make it Brown and white. Just looked up a herford
> and
> it was brown/white. Sorry about all the cow stuff. I didn't mean to
> milk it.
>
> Ray C
>
>
[Alec Fernandez Says:]

Stop it Ray, you're killing me.

Alec
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Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 10:10:03 -0400
From: "bill daly"
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - primer finish

herFORD!?!?!?!

Gosh, I needed that belly laugh this morning.

Thanks, Ray!!!

Jan

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ray Cardogno
To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - primer finish


>>And if it's a finish
>>coat, does it need a primer coat? I'd appreciate input from anybody whose
>>done this or knows something about it. Thanks.
>>
>>i am not sure of the paint that is used but the ones i have seen are plain
>>primer... i think it would be cool and a whole lot less costly
>>as well as easier to repair....
>>T-bird Terry
>
>I like the sound of that. How about a milk truck in blotches of black and
>white primer. I could call it the HerFORD. Maybe even talk my wife into
>driving it. T-bird you're a *genious*!
>
>
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Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 10:08:37 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - who's going to Pigeon forge ?

At 09:27 PM 5/4/98 EDT, you wrote:
>not a list, but I'm going and I saw about 3 others that said they were going.
>boy it sure would be nice if we did have a list and a planned time to gather
>around Ken's booth to meet each other.
>
>
>Ken L..

I'm going to set up a mailing list with our list server tonight
(or maybe tomorrow) that will allow anyone who's going to subscribe.
This will give us a good centralized area to get a heads up.
What was keeping track? I remember someone saying they would.


Ken


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Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 09:26:31 -0700
From: Gary Haselbusch
Subject: Re: FTE Pre61 - Re: Gauge Voltage Regulator

DAN LEE wrote:
>
> I installed my new 7806 6 Volt voltage regulator this weekend. It
> puts out 6 Volts exactly. Now I can trust my fuel gauge.
>
> Dan Lee
> '53 F100
> 351C-4V
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Hi Dan, Please give me the details on installing the regulator. Thanks,
Gary
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