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fordtrucks-digest Wednesday, March 11 1998 Volume 02 : Number 065



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In this issue:

Flathead V-8 (1952) ["davet" ]
Unibody for sale [Rich Garber ]
Re: 1952 engine [Pea Soup A ]
Re: Firing Order for 1952 Ford Flathead 8 [Pea Soup A ]
Ford 9" differentials ["Goodwrench" ]
Ford 9" differentials [Tkaczyk ]
bolt in motor mounts [jc & terry ]
9 incher [jc & terry ]

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:22:49 -0600
From: "davet"
Subject: Flathead V-8 (1952)

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The firing order on the Ford 239 Flathead V-8 is: 1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2. =
Also note that the cylinder numbering is 1234 from front to back on the =
right (passenger side) and 5678 from front to back on the left (driver's =
side) of the truck. Number one cylinder is the one closest to the =
distributor.

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  The firing order on the Ford =
239 Flathead=20
V-8 is: 1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2.  Also note that the cylinder numbering is =
1234=20
from front to back on the right (passenger side) and 5678 from front to =
back on=20
the left (driver's side) of the truck.  Number one cylinder is the =
one=20
closest to the distributor.

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:16:40 -0600
From: Rich Garber
Subject: Unibody for sale

I did not see my post, sorry if your seeing it for the second time.
>I think someone is looking for on of these and I
>just came across the following ad:
>
>63 Ford Pickup,unibody,restorable $750.00
>715-635-2712
>
>I know its in NW Wisconsin. I have not seen it nor am I
>interested. Just passing it along.
>
>Rich
>54F100

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:02:26 EST
From: Pea Soup A
Subject: Re: 1952 engine

In a message dated 98-03-09 22:45:57 EST, you write:


1952?
Scott
>>
..........Scott, acording to my shop mnaual for 49-52 f-series
turcks.......the firing order is...1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2 the compression is 6.8:1
the block is an R
Bob Andersen

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:32:24 EST
From: Pea Soup A
Subject: Re: Firing Order for 1952 Ford Flathead 8

My friend Jack Mendenhall, says its cast into intake manafold...

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:43:10 -0600
From: "Goodwrench"
Subject: Ford 9" differentials

Traci,
The Ford 9" differential is about the ultimate straight axle rear end
ever made. They are relatively plentiful, and come in a fair variety of
widths. They can be an extremely strong differential. Currie and many
companies produces axles with various numbers of splines, depending on
how much strength you need. I think many stock ones have 28 spline
axles, and some of the performance replacement go up to 31 splines.
There is no rear cover on this differential. After pulling the axles
out a bit, the whole pumpkin can be removed from the front of the
housing, and all the set up of the ring, pinion, and spiders stays
intact. If one has an extra third member (guts of the pumpkin) gear
ratios can be changed in an afternoon. Third members were made of
various materials over the years. I believe there are aluminum ones
available and the strongest ones are made of nodular iron.
Later model Lincoln Versailles had a relatively narrow 9" rear that
comes with disk brakes. These tend to be fairly expensive. If you do
get one of these it is extremely important that you get all the parts,
including as much of the parking brake assemblies and cables as
possible. A number of other manufacturers make kits to convert to rear
disks. Complete differentials and third members in a wide range of
ratios are very available at most flea markets. Pro streeters have the
axle housings narrowed and use short axles to fit the large rear tires
under the truck.
The late '50's station wagons had one of the narrowest 9" differentials
and they are desirable because they are an appropriate width for the
much older street rods. I have one under Truckster, my 1941 Ford
pickup. Later V-8 Mustangs, Cougars, and even Mavericks also had fairly
narrow 9" rears. If you look hard enough, you can often even find one
that doesn't require moving the spring mounting pads. Measure your
current differential before you go looking if you want to retain the
original leaf springs. New spring pads are available to weld onto the
axle housings. It is extremely important to get the correct pinion
angle if you do this yourself. This angle should be the same as that of
the engine's crank and the transmissions output shaft, so that your
U-joints will last and you won't have vibration troubles. Welding on
the axle housing should be done by an experienced welder, because
strength is very important and it is very easy to warp an axle housing
if too much heat is applied in a localized area.
You can't go wrong with a Ford 9", and just about any place knows how
to work on them. Bearings and seals are very available. I hope I've
told you more than you want to know about the great old Ford 9"
differentials.

Goodwrench = Jim Pfrommer
Central Texas
goodwrench easy.com
Check out Goodwrench's CyberRanch:
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On Behalf Of traci stokes
Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 7:13 PM
Subject: 56 custom cab

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Also, I have been reading alot about 9 inch rear ends. What exactly
does
a 9 inch rear end do for me and where and what do they come off of?

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:46:58 -0500
From: Tkaczyk
Subject: Ford 9" differentials

Hi Traci,

1/2 ton Ford pickups from 1957 thru 1972 have 9" rears which are exactly
the same width (wheel to wheel) as 53-56 F100's. If your 56 has the
original rear end, it's much smaller and weaker than the 9". Also, it
probably has a gear ratio of 3.92 to 1. Great for pulling tree stumps
or big loads of hay, but causes your engine to run at much higher RPMs.
If you plan to do much highway driving, you probably want to get a ratio
which keeps the RPMs no higher than 2500. I'm putting a 72 F100 rear
axle in my 55 right now. I'm going to start with 3.25 ration, but go to
around 3.00 if the RPMs are still too high. As Jim (Goodwrench) said in
his email, you don't get disc brakes with what I'm using, but it sure
fits into my 55 easily.
Gary
Tkaczyk

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:41:54 -0800
From: jc & terry
Subject: bolt in motor mounts

You know, this kills me. I was in there last week asking if they sold
anything like this and the guy flat out said "no". He was then explaining
to me how to fabricate parts, which is something I have no interest in doing
(which is why I came to him in the first place).


when i put the sbc into my 59 f-100 i went to vintage ford in sacramento and
got bolt on motor mounts and tranny crossmember for $125. 6 hours later i
was driving. as for the fire wall, take out that tranny panel and cut it or
make a new one.

T-bird Terry

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:47:23 -0800
From: jc & terry
Subject: 9 incher

Also, I have been reading alot about 9 inch rear ends. What exactly does
a 9 inch rear end do for me and where and what do they come off of?



it is a bullet proof rear end that ford made from 57-to 78. easy to change
ring and pinion. came on almost everything ford made including lincoln and
merc. cars are better gear ratios than trucks for gas milage, vice versa for
power and tire burning. 500 k on these rears is not unusual. pick for almost....

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