fordtrucks-digest Monday, March 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 056



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In this issue:

Re: '59 name suggestions [Pea Soup A ]
Re: '59 name suggestions [Ken Payne ]
Question about letter responses. [RPietsch webtv.net (Richard Pietsch)]
Re: Question about letter responses. [Ken Payne ]
7.3L Diesel Engine [WACWR ]
Truck retirement villas ["Chris Hedemark" ]
Re: buy truck [KLaff61624 ]
Re: buy truck [KLaff61624 ]
Re: Truck retirement villas, information? [TNickolson
Re: buy truck ["Chris Hedemark" ]
Chris [RJC988 ]
Re: Truck retirement villas, information? ["Chris Hedemark"
Pigeon Forge ["Chris Hedemark" ]
Re: Truck retirement villas, information? ["James H. Boyd"

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:56:43 EST
From: Pea Soup A
Subject: Re: '59 name suggestions

you guys l really over looked Ken Payne who also took the time to show my 51
and dragster...and who has taken the time to put this whole website together
for or enjoyment...l want to thank Ken, and apologize for my oversight...Bob
Andersen

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Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 14:28:32 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: '59 name suggestions

At 12:56 PM 3/1/98 EST, you wrote:
>you guys l really over looked Ken Payne who also took the time to show my 51
>and dragster...and who has taken the time to put this whole website together
>for or enjoyment...l want to thank Ken, and apologize for my oversight...Bob
>Andersen

You're welcome. And trust me on this, I get just as much out
of it (if not more) than I put it. Its a lot of fun. Now
if I could only find a way for it to not take up my restoration
time.....

:^)

Ken

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:40:54 -0800
From: RPietsch webtv.net (Richard Pietsch)
Subject: Question about letter responses.

When I find a message that I want to respond to do, do I send my
response to the fordtrucks-digest or do I send it directly to the e-mail
address on that particular message.
Thankyou,
The Oldtrukman.

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Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 15:07:23 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Question about letter responses.

At 11:40 AM 3/1/98 -0800, you wrote:
>When I find a message that I want to respond to do, do I send my
>response to the fordtrucks-digest or do I send it directly to the e-mail
>address on that particular message.
> Thankyou,
> The Oldtrukman.
>

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:03:51 EST
From: WACWR
Subject: 7.3L Diesel Engine

I recently received from Ford a notice that the 7.3L diesel engine may develop
cavitation erosion in the cylinder wall resulting in catastophic leakage to
the engine. I wonder if anyone knows of anyone experiencing this problem. I'm
trying to estimate the odds of it happening to me.

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 16:20:01 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Truck retirement villas

I've been checking out a lot of web sites lately trying to determine what
kind of Ford truck I am going to go for. I've pretty much determined that
1952 is my favorite year along the lines of styling. Visiting all of these
web sites has really piqued my attention and got me looking around a lot
more.

While I live "in town", I go to church and socialize within a rural farming
community in North Carolina. I figured that some of those old farming
trucks had to be around somewhere. Sure enough, on the way home from church
I passed the same junkyard I've passed 100 times before (and ignored) and
while there were a lot of cars less than 25 years old there, I floored my
brakes. Backed up and pulled off the side of the road. Yep, there was an
old Ford there alright. Big fat fenders and everything. Still on its
tires. The grill was gone, and some of the glass, but otherwise it was
fairly intact and from what I could see possible recoverable. Wasn't my
year, but it was encouraging. I can't pick off the years but in case anyone
is looking, the windshield was split into two panes and the grill opening
was taller and narrower than the 1952 pics I've been studying.

I looked around some more (through a fence) and saw an old Ch*vy, too, and
some more Fords that were a bit newer (fenders squared off with hood more).
There was also a big old tow truck that may or may not have been a Ford (my
experience at identifying these trucks is MINIMAL) but I could read on the
side of the truck "Viking". Yep, big fat fenders and wide chrome grill.
The interior must have been in bad shape because the windows were either
down or out on the driver's door. As I walked farther from the main
entrance it became apparent that the fence was not a perimeter fence but
more of just a fascia. As soon as it got into any amount of trees the fence
stopped. Further back in the woods were the older cars and trucks. There
was a BIG old Mercury 4 door with surprisingly sharp looking grill and front
bumper. Body was pretty clean too. Behind it a ways were a few more Ford
trucks ranging from late fourties to early 70's. Before I could really see
anything there were two junkyard dogs hauling tail in my direction, with no
fence to get between us. So I hastily retreated to my car and decided that
I *definitely* have to pay a visit to this place during normal business
hours, when I've got a few spare $$$ to see if there is anything worth
saving.

That tow truck would look sharp with a bed on it. But it looked to be some
kind of superduty truck and I doubt that parts would be easy to find. The
first truck I saw also looked like a fun project but I've got my heart set
on a 52 (okay... maybe a 51 if I get a good deal on one). There was a lot
of old stuff in the back that I never got to look at because of the dogs.

Are the old fat fenders really that common? I never really opened my eyes
before so I never saw them. Maybe the location has something to do with the
shear number of trucks I saw in one place at one time since I used to comb
the junkyards in Philly all the time for Mustang projects and never saw any
fat fender trucks even once.

Sure is a shame to see those big beautiful trucks sitting there in the woods
rotting away. So much potential. So much left to give. Makes me wish I
had a fatter wallet, a fancy garage, and some more time to rescue every last
one from that fate.

An interesting observation, though, is that the 20 year old cars and trucks
were rusted far worse (as in total perferation) than the 45-50 year old
trucks. In fact, the bodies on those older trucks looked pretty darned good
aside from some surface rust and dull paint. It sure is a testament to the
craftsmanship and high quality standards of the time. I fully expect my
1996 Mustang will not last 25 years, let alone 50.

Chris Hedemark
Yonder Way
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:17:45 EST
From: KLaff61624
Subject: Re: buy truck

Chris, You did not say who much you want to spend. I know where you can buy a
56 small window f-100 here in lexington Ky. ready to go for 6500. It has a
warrented 350 (yuk chevy motor) and a overdrive transmission. It looks good
but the work is not professional, but it is a great driver. It has a chevelle
independent front supension. I also know where you can buy a 55 f-100 that has
a nova front supension and is all apart (no motor) , supension is installed,
body has alot of rust but is repairable for a driver only for 500. here in
Lexington Ky.

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:34:15 EST
From: KLaff61624
Subject: Re: buy truck

I'm probally not more than 3-4 hrs from you at lexington 500 is cheap for the
truck with the nova front supension. Ken

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:42:27 EST
From: TNickolson
Subject: Re: Truck retirement villas, information?

I am heading up to Murphy, NC in a few weeks and I am interested in where you
saw all thoes trucks? I am almost finished my 52 and I would love to find a 34
to 49 car or truck. I hope to be moving to NC sometimes in the next few years.
I love it up there.


Tom

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:41:11 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Re: buy truck

>Chris, You did not say who much you want to spend.

I'll likely make the buy in August or September (or at least start my search
in earnest then) as we'll be moving out of the apartment and to a rental
house with a garage. But I expect my range to be up to $2K. I realize that
anything I get in that price range is going to have a LOT of work left to be
done on it.

>I know where you can buy a
>56 small window f-100 here in lexington Ky. ready to go for 6500.

KY might be a doable drive, but 56 is "too new". I'm definitely dead set on
that 52. :-)

>It has a warrented 350 (yuk chevy motor) and a overdrive transmission.

Sorry if I am offending anyone here, but I would never ruin a perfectly good
Ford with a Chevy engine.

>It looks good but the work is not professional, but it is a great driver.
It has a chevelle
>independent front supension. I also know where you can buy a 55 f-100 that
has
>a nova front supension and is all apart (no motor) , supension is
installed,
>body has alot of rust but is repairable for a driver only for 500. here in
>Lexington Ky.


Now that 55 sounds more like what I'm looking for. I have some pretty
specific ideas about what I wanna do engine-wise and body/interior-wise.
For that reason, it may be better for me to get a relatively untouched truck
even if it means having to do a frame-up job. I definitely want IFS but
don't know enough about the different systems available to know what variety
I want.

The no-motor part doesn't bother me. Don't mind a lot of surface rust.
Straight-through rust should not be on frame or cab.

>From what it looks like judging by the local junkyards, and all the old
farms, I *might* be able to get one within a 50 mile radius and in bone
stock condition at that. But I still have several months before I can even
think about buying a truck so right now I just want to suck up as much as I
can from y'all (boy was I asking a lot of ?'s in chat tonight...).

I do have many issues I am considering so I go into this with a good plan,
and would love to hear some feedback. Don't worry I'm a big boy so I can
take it if you think one of my ideas is bad (just offer a viable
alternative).

- Seats - Anyone replace the seat with one from a late model Dodge Ram?
I used to have a V10 powered Ram and that seat was great. But I remember it
as being pretty wide and wonder if there would be a clearance problem there.

- IFS - I know *nothing* about the IFS options on the F1 and this is one
of the things I bet I'll have to farm out. Open to personal experiences
here.

- A/C - Anyone use Vintage Air systems? Are they still using R12 or are
they on the new stuff yet? Thoughts, experiences?

- exhaust manifolds - has anyone here found a good header for a
smallblock Ford in the F1? I'd like to go with a 351W but realistically
budget will likely restrict me to a 5.0L from a donor Mustang.

Thanks for all the feedback I've been getting, everyone. Several of you
have written to me privately and I appreciate the welcomes and suggestions
I've gotten from all of you thus far. If this keeps up, I'll have my truck
"built" on paper before I even buy the thing this summer. :-)

Chris Hedemark
Yonder Way
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:55:47 EST
From: RJC988
Subject: Chris

1st) No. There are many F-100 parts websites, but most of them admit they have
few parts for the 57 - 60 "shoeboxes". I have a few catalogs. The 53 - 56 are
the most popular.

2nd.) Pigeon Forge is a small mountainside town about 50 miles southwest of
Knoxville, TN. In May the F-100 Supernationals will be there. It's one of the
largest F-100 shows in the country.

Glenn in Memphis (soon to be Bartlett!)

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:15:23 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Re: Truck retirement villas, information?

The junkyard was in Orange County on rt. 57 about 15 minutes drive north of
Hillsborough. It's within about a half hour's drive or so of Durham. I
pass the place every sunday and wednesday so I'll try to get the name and
number of the place next time I go by.

I moved to NC last year from Philadelphia, PA. Boy the difference is like
night and day. Sure, they have there own unique problems here but I will
NEVER go back to PA if I can help it.

Besides there are sooooo many trucks here. :-)

Chris Hedemark
Yonder Way
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com
- -----Original Message-----
From: TNickolson
To: fordtrucks ListService.net
Date: Sunday, March 01, 1998 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: Truck retirement villas, information?


>I am heading up to Murphy, NC in a few weeks and I am interested in where
you
>saw all thoes trucks? I am almost finished my 52 and I would love to find a
34
>to 49 car or truck. I hope to be moving to NC sometimes in the next few
years.
>I love it up there.
>
>
>Tom
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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:17:18 -0500
From: "Chris Hedemark"
Subject: Pigeon Forge

>1st) No. There are many F-100 parts websites, but most of them admit they
have
>few parts for the 57 - 60 "shoeboxes". I have a few catalogs. The 53 - 56
are
>the most popular.


Is the parts availability similarly poor for the 1952 trucks as it is for
57-60 trucks?

>2nd.) Pigeon Forge is a small mountainside town about 50 miles southwest of
>Knoxville, TN. In May the F-100 Supernationals will be there. It's one of
the
>largest F-100 shows in the country.


Hey that sounds like a blast. Is it in the same place every year?

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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 23:34:07 EST
From: "James H. Boyd"
Subject: Re: Truck retirement villas, information?

Chris,

I used to live in the South Raleigh area (I'm in Atlanta now), and I can
tell you that there are several salvage yards for you to look in for old
F-100's. The one I like the best is just 12 miles outside of Asheboro NC,
in Denton. Take a road trip on NC Highway 64 west (a pretty drive in the
spring!) from Durham to Asheboro, pick up NC Highway 49 South (as if on
your way to Charlotte). Twelve miles down the road, on the right is:

(I'm reading from his business card :-)

Richard's Auto Sales & Salvage
7638 NC Highway 49 South
Denton, NC 27239

Phone: 910-857-2222

Hours: M-F 10-5
Sat 8-1

Richard Keller is the owner of the business; a 33 acre yard of nothing
newer than the 1980's. All the vehicles are in neat rows; several
unmolested since they were parked. I bought a Merc engine from Rich that
was donor of a 4" crank for my hot rod Flathead. Some of the things you
will find here will amaze you!

Just down the road about a mile from Richard's (on Highway 49 towards
Charlotte), is another smaller yard who happens to be in the same
business of salvaging the truely classic. I apologize as I don't have his
name or business card, but you'll be able to find him by his trademark as
you drive up. Outside his yard, on a 20' sign pole, sits a 1965 Ford
Mustang! I've never done business with the man, but from what I've been
told, he likes to deal in whole vehicles instead of parts.

By the way, There's a shop in Durham that deals just in old F-100 parts.
I don't remember the name of the place, but I do know they are on Greer
St. in Durham. You may want to that a drive over there!

Well, Gotta go!

Jay

53 F-100 Panel
Hotrod Flathead!!!

** Reply to > > The junkyard was in Orange County on rt. 57
about 15 minutes drive north of > Hillsborough. It's within about a half
hour's drive or so of Durham. I > pass the place every sunday and
wednesday so I'll try to get the name and > number of the place next time
I go by. >
> I moved to NC last year from Philadelphia, PA. Boy the difference is like
> night and day. Sure, they have there own unique problems here but I will
> NEVER go back to PA if I can help it.
>
> Besides there are sooooo many trucks here. :-)
>
> Chris Hedemark
> Yonder Way
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.yonderway.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TNickolson
> To: fordtrucks ListService.net
> Date: Sunday, March 01, 1998 9:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Truck retirement villas, information?
>
>
> >I am heading up to Murphy, NC in a few weeks and I am interested in where
> you
> >saw all thoes trucks? I am almost finished my 52 and I would love to find a
> 34
> >to 49 car or truck. I hope to be moving to NC sometimes in the next few
> years.
> >I love it up there.
> >
> >
> >Tom
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