Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 03:50:20 -0700 (MST)
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fordtrucks-digest Tuesday, February 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 037

Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1960 And Older Trucks Digest
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In this issue:

under bed gas tanks [jniolon]
Questions, Questions, Questions (F-4) ["Jim Shedlauskas"
Enclosed Trailer ["Tarnoff, Howard" ]
Re: fordtrucks-digest V2 #35 [Abe Stauffer ]
Nominations [Ken Payne ]
Books ["Howard Tarnoff" ]
Re: Nominations [Scott ]



Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 07:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: jniolon
Subject: under bed gas tanks

I used a tank from a mid 60' mustang.. made a frame from 1" square
tubing...moved the rear crossmember back to the end of the rails and
it fit perfect....this worked for me..but think about your spare ?



Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 07:12:02 -0600
From: "Jim Shedlauskas"
Subject: Questions, Questions, Questions (F-4)

I recently picked up a 1949 F-4 (97HTL-231234), but some things don't add
up. I crawled underneath yesterday just to look around and started
counting springs. The fronts are 11 leaf, and the rears are 10 leaf main
spring with an 8 leaf auxiliary spring. That doesn't match with what the
shop manual says should be there, although it does have the 7.00-18 tires
that looks like were only an option on the F-4. The auxiliary springs are
obviously not original, they've been torched to fit... but the U-bolts and
axle hardware and brackets for the auxiliary springs look like a factory
installation. I'm confused, can anyone offer an explanation?

On the drivers side, there is about a 1/2" diameter hole above and below
the 'F-4' badge in the cowl. What are these for?

And.. I need a carburetor for this thing (Ford part#7HT-9510-R) The carb
that was on it is a Carter (not the correct carb.) and needs a rebuild.
Can anyone recommend a good mail order source for a carb?



Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 10:37:44 -0500
From: "Tarnoff, Howard"
Subject: Enclosed Trailer

It is starting to thaw out in the North East and I am getting the itch
to get the Effie out. We plan on using most of our vacation days on
long weekends and hit some of the shows within a 500 mile radius of

We are looking for an enclosed trailer that will take both the width and
height of our 55 F100. I spoke with a couple of dealers and have not
gotten the "warm and fuzzy" feeling that they know what they are
speaking about relative to this type of trailer.

Do any of you own an enclosed trailer that is a good fit and tows well?

Like to know soon.




Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 12:56:38 -0500
From: Abe Stauffer
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-digest V2 #35

fordtrucks-digest wrote:
> fordtrucks-digest Sunday, February 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 035
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> In this issue:
> Heater Fan Switch ["Howard Tarnoff" ]
> Trailer ["Howard Tarnoff" ]
> Air Filters & Oil Tubes ["Don & Teresa Neighbors" ]
> gear changes [jc& terry ]
> Re: Tilt Front [FRD56F100]
> Recommended Books [Ken Payne ]
> Re: Tilt Front [Cdalep]
> Oil Bath color in 55 [Ray Cardogno ]
> Re: 272 front motor mount [Ray Cardogno ]
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> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:20:46 -0500
> From: "Howard Tarnoff"
> Subject: Heater Fan Switch
> A while back someone had posted a message on how they used a late model
> heater fan switch in an early truck. I would appreciate seeing that
> message again.
> Thanks,
> Howard
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:22:07 -0500
> From: "Howard Tarnoff"
> Subject: Trailer
> Can anyone provide me with a list of trailer manufacturers and their web
> sites?
> Howard
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 10:07:33 -0500
> From: "Don & Teresa Neighbors"
> Subject: Air Filters & Oil Tubes
> I have a pair oil bath air filters, one is on my Grover's original '54
> 239, and the other came with an engine that had lived in a '55 for a while.
> Both are identical, both are black. I really think black was the usual
> color at that time.
> Those two engines also sport oil return lines on the rocker shafts. Both
> my Motor manual and my Chilton's manual show those tubes as being part of
> the stock rocker shaft assembly. They were meant to direct the oil into one
> of the drain passages in the head. These are not to be confused with the
> aftermarket oiler kit that some of us have mentioned.
> Since those kits seemed to consist of a couple of tubes running to an
> exterior access to the oil gallery and a pair of hollow studs, how hard
> could they be to fabricate?
> Don Neighbors
> '54 F250 Named Grover
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 14:48:03 -0800
> From: jc& terry
> Subject: gear changes
> i wouldn't go that high. 3:00 no more. although i have a only a small block
> i like that tire smoking action. i can understand yur desire for at least
> 3-4 mpg. i would rather get it from the tranny and keep that strong low
> gear. the drawback for you is the c-6 you are running now is superior to the
> aod you could use. especially for burnouts. a well set up 460 should get
> about 13-15mpg with c-6 /3:00 gears and you should still be able to get a
> decent burnout. the 2:70 will make it run like yur grannies car. i also
> wonder at yur purpose for the posi. do you go in mud or snow alot? if yur
> just looking to ride around, go ahead. i myself wonder what's the use of the
> 460 if you don't put yur foot in it once in a while
> expert or not, that's what i think
> T-bird Terry
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 20:33:58 EST
> From: FRD56F100
> Subject: Re: Tilt Front
> Thanks to CDalep and Kent for the input on the tilt front, it will certainly
> help me.
> To all fellow truckers that may have my e-mail address Jsanc82344,
> please update it, I have removed that user name from the list.
> My next question is: Does anybody know what donor truck, minitruck, or car
> will be best for a fuel tank for my 56 F100? I like to install it underneath
> the truck bed.
> I know I can get a new one from one of the advertisers in "Classic Trucks"
> magazine. However, I am building this truck on a limited budget and a fuel
> tank from the junkyard could be just as good if I could just find one that
> fits. I was looking at a fuel tank from a 78 Chevy Blazer, but it looks kind
> of big although it could fit. Any suggestions?
> Joe
> P.S. Will a stepside bed from a 72 to 75 Ford truck fit on a 56? Is the size
> different? I want to replace the whole bed on my 56 and was thinking that
> maybe
> a newer one will fit.
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 20:37:30 -0500
> From: Ken Payne
> Subject: Recommended Books
> List member Sleddog made a suggestion to
> that we put up a list of recommended books on the web site.
> I think this is a fantastic idea.
> I'm going to start out with:
> How To Rebuild Big-Block Ford Engines, by Steve Christ
> Ford Trucks Since 1905, by James K. Wagner
> If anyone has any recommendations email them to me
> (kpayne with a one paragraph description.
> Books do not have to be technical (Ford Trucks Since 1905
> is a historical book).
> Ken Payne
> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 20:46:40 EST
> From: Cdalep
> Subject: Re: Tilt Front
> To FRD56F100 Ive been told an Isuzu gas tank work but I cant verify , I'll
> add to this if I find it true or not. Cliff
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 23:53:53 -0400
> From: Ray Cardogno
> Subject: Oil Bath color in 55
> >I have been told that the stock color of the Oil Bath Air Cleaner on the
> >55 F100 Y-Block is black by one person and grey by another. Can anyone
> >confirm one way or the other?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Howard
> >
> I have a 55 and the stock color on it is black. My block is a 239 with the
> 1 bbl carb
> Ray C
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 00:07:18 -0400
> From: Ray Cardogno
> Subject: Re: 272 front motor mount
> Hey folks,
> I have a motor that likes to jump up in the front causing a nasty
> fan-to-shroud destructive racket when I really need lots of torque. Since
> this only happens occaisionally I have not fixed it yet (does anyone else
> procrastinate or is it only me?). My question is this: Is the front motor
> mount for my 54 C-600 272 y-block the same as the one's available for the
> smaller F-100's? I'm talking about the rubber center part of the mount. If
> not, where will I find the correct one in new condition? I have nothing to
> compare to as my only F-100 has been Volare-ized with a mopar 360. Thanks
> in advance.
> Ray C.
> ------------------------------
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Gentlemen, Since we're talking about colors of oil bath air filter's...
By the way the air cleaner on my 239 '54 was and is black. I bought it
from my grandfather and he bought it new. What color was the engine and
the valve covers for a 239 V-8 built at the Rouge Plant in Dearborn? I
had the engine rebuilt in 1979 and the guy at the speed shop painted it
blue. I don't remember the original color because it was so covered with
grease and grime! Furthermore, what was the original color of the
grill in 1954! Thanks, Abe Stauffer


Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 13:23:28 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Nominations

To those so inclined...

To those have haven't already done so, stop by Carlounge's
Top 10 Automotive Sites nomination page and enter a nomination
for Ford Truck Enthusiasts ( Your
vote is appreciated.



Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:19:54 -0500
From: "Howard Tarnoff"
Subject: Books

Sorry for the delay, but here are two of the books that I found most

Ford Pickup Trucks, Development history and restoration guide
Paul G. McLaughlin
Motorbooks International

Ford Y-Block, How to Repair and Rebuild the 1954-62 Ford OHV V-8
James Eickman
Motorbooks International

Both are available by writing to PO BX 2, Osceola, Wisconsin 54020.

Best regards to all,

Howard Tarnoff


Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:55:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Nominations

> To those so inclined...
> To those have haven't already done so, stop by Carlounge's
> Top 10 Automotive Sites nomination page and enter a nomination
> for Ford Truck Enthusiasts ( Your
> vote is appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Ken
> Admin
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