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fordtrucks-digest Monday, January 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 003



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In this issue:

Re: fordtrucks-digest V2 #2 [Lightbg ]
ADMIN: Pictorial updates and chat [Ken Payne ]
Bypass Oil Filter Sludge - Ycch! Dif'rnt filters? [JRFiero
6V Automatic Bat'ry Charger? [JRFiero ]
long haul truck driver [jc& terry ]
Re: Bypass Oil Filter Sludge - Ycch! Dif'rnt filters? ["James H. Boyd"

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:05:01 EST
From: Lightbg
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-digest V2 #2

Thank you very much Scott for answering my questions. I really appreciate it.
Thankyou for the website also.
Cody

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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 15:55:17 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Pictorial updates and chat

Pictorial has several additions.

Of particular interest are the early 30's/40's restored
Ford trucks that are still doing major logging work,
a "History Of Ford Trucks" morph provided by Terry
Sherman and an animated version of the mid 40s firetruck.

Additionally, there's a full color version of the Ford
Expansion (link on the main page) concept which was
shown the August 1997 Super Ford magazine in black
and white.

Lastly, Java chat is ready. Just waiting for the domain
transfer to be completed so it can go on-line.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 18:53:16 EST
From: JRFiero
Subject: Bypass Oil Filter Sludge - Ycch! Dif'rnt filters?

I changed the oil on my '51 flathead today, after 150 miles on detergent
oil. Don't know what was in it during its previous life, so I'm not taking
any chances. Anyway -
After I took the filter out of it's canister (not restricted to flatheads -
you other guys pay attention, too), I though I'd suck all the black oil and
crap out of the housing. Well, sir, the bottom of that canister was not too
pretty! Black and gray gunk of various consistency, the bottom of which was
pretty solid. These bypass filters are better than nothing, but I didn't know
they worked on gravity settling out the heavy stuff! As I can see, the oil is
pumped up the center tube from the bottom of the canister, then it goes out
holes in the tube, through the filter, then out the side pipe of the canister.
So I guess it doesn't matter that there's a half inch of sludge in the bottom,
but jeez, I didn't like it much. Any old timers, or young guys with old
trucks, have ideas for getting and keeping the oiil filter clean?

Speaking of filters, my local parts place has Wix filters in stock (51006)
for some reason. The Wix filters have a bail so you can get them out easily,
and come with a Neoprene gasket. They have a series of holes around the
sides. I bought a filter at a swap meet earlier this year which was supposed
to be like old stock, and it had solid sides, and holes in the top and bottom.
I guess they both work the same, but it seems the Wix would flow more. Any
thoughts?

And, while I'm at it, when I put the new filter in, I filled the canister
with new oil, to avoid those precious seconds of no oil pressure at startup.
I still had a scary amount of zip oil pressure till it kicked up. Does
anybody bother to do this? I have lousy oil pressure anyway, needs some new
bearings.

60-some degrees in northern Virginia this weekend. I can take this winter
weather.

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 18:53:11 EST
From: JRFiero
Subject: 6V Automatic Bat'ry Charger?

I''ve been looking in vain for an automatic battery charger with 6V
capabilities. I've found several chargers labeled 'automatic' that have
12V/6V, but if you look close, the 6V is only manual. I've also found 6V
'maintenance' chargers (the little baby ones), but they're manual also. The
12V maintenance chargers all seem to be automatic these days.
By 'automatic' I mean the charger can sense the state of battery charge, and
taper down to nothing when the battery gets to full charge, the kick in for a
little bit every now and then if the vehicle is idle for a while.
Anybody know of one? I don't care if it has the now-common high amp start
feature.
Griot's Garage sells one which the catalog claims does all this, but it's
$99.95. To quote: "Sophisticated circuitry checks whether your battery is 6
or 12 volt, if the polarity (connection) is correct, then allows for a delayed
start so no sparking across the leads can occur! Depending on the condition
of the battery and how much charge it can accept, the computer varies the rate
between 2 and 10 amps to provide maximum charge. To equalize charge on all of
the cells, it provides a taper charge at the end. Fully automatic shut-off
and restart keeps your battery at its maximum charge for extended periods of
time."
That's what I want, but Griot's usually is more expensive than anywhere
else you can find equivalent stuff. Cool catalog, tho, with drool tools, so
if you don't have one, they're at 1-800-345-5789. Don't know about a web
site.

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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 16:32:33 -0800
From: jc& terry
Subject: long haul truck driver

When I was relatively close to home
in NY someone asked where I was going. Whan I told them Massachusetts they
said, "boy you got a lot of nerve". When I told the I had just come over
1500 miles they nearly died. Well, I made it home. The bitmap texture on
the "Merry Christmas" picture on the pictorial section of this website was
taken the day I got back home without any breakdowns to my wife and six
kids.

geez ray, that's one of the best stories i ever heard. just goes to prove
the old adage that "can't means won't". this guy makes us all look like a
bunch of pansies when it comes to getting what you want. whenever you have
trouble with yur truck just think of old ray and you'll see how "lucky" you
really are. on the other hand, compared to raising 6 kids the truck
adventure was probably like a vacation. my hat's off to ya partner!

T-bird Terry

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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 22:28:18 -0500
From: "James H. Boyd"
Subject: Re: Bypass Oil Filter Sludge - Ycch! Dif'rnt filters?

JRFiero wrote:
>
> I changed the oil on my '51 flathead today, after 150 miles on detergent
> oil. Don't know what was in it during its previous life, so I'm not taking
> any chances. Anyway -
> After I took the filter out of it's canister (not restricted to flatheads -
> you other guys pay attention, too), I though I'd suck all the black oil and
> crap out of the housing. Well, sir, the bottom of that canister was not too
> pretty! Black and gray gunk of various consistency, the bottom of which was
> pretty solid. These bypass filters are better than nothing, but I didn't know
> they worked on gravity settling out the heavy stuff! As I can see, the oil is
> pumped up the center tube from the bottom of the canister, then it goes out
> holes in the tube, through the filter, then out the side pipe of the canister.
> So I guess it doesn't matter that there's a half inch of sludge in the bottom,
> but jeez, I didn't like it much. Any old timers, or young guys with old
> trucks, have ideas for getting and keeping the oiil filter clean?
>
> Speaking of filters, my local parts place has Wix filters in stock (51006)
> for some reason. The Wix filters have a bail so you can get them out easily,
> and come with a Neoprene gasket. They have a series of holes around the
> sides. I bought a filter at a swap meet earlier this year which was supposed
> to be like old stock, and it had solid sides, and holes in the top and bottom.
> I guess they both work the same, but it seems the Wix would flow more. Any
> thoughts?
>
> And, while I'm at it, when I put the new filter in, I filled the canister
> with new oil, to avoid those precious seconds of no oil pressure at startup.
> I still had a scary amount of zip oil pressure till it kicked up. Does
> anybody bother to do this? I have lousy oil pressure anyway, needs some new
> bearings.
>
> 60-some degrees in northern Virginia this weekend. I can take this winter
> weather.
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JR,

I've just built a hot rod flathead; and some of the things told to me
was:

1) don't count on the original oiling system to keep your engine
filtered.

2) don't use detergent multi-viscosity oil in your engine.

Now, that being said, I of course, ignored that advice in order to use
an external oiling system. Motor City Flathead in Detriot MI sells an
add-on kit to install a full flow oiling system that uses a Motorcraft
FL-1 screw on filter. the down side is that you must drill a 3/4" hole
in the drivers side of the oil pan in order to complete the
installation. If you are going for a correct restoration, this isn't for
you. But, if you have a daily driver like the one I'm building, this is
just the ticket!

I even bought a really trick billet aluminum tranny adaptor plate for
the T-5 and similar trannys that allowed me to replace the tired ol'
3STD that was previously behind my "new" motor. They know their trade
and were very helpful to me.

There address and phone is:

Motor City Flathead
13624 Stowell Road....

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