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Return-Path: Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 03:50:23 -0600 (MDT) From: owner-fordtrucks-digest To: fordtrucks-digest Subject: fordtrucks-digest V2 #119 Reply-To: fordtrucks Sender: owner-fordtrucks-digest fordtrucks-digest Saturday, May 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 119 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1960 And Older Trucks Digest Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To remove yourself for our list send email to: fordtrucks-digest-request with the word "unsubscribe" in the body of the message. For help, send email to the same address with the word "help" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: 56 door locks [Jan ] ADMIN: List downtime scheduled [Ken Payne ] headers ["Tim Baker" ] 1950 F-1 Engine and Drivetrain conversion ["Brian Carrico" Re: 1950 F-1 Engine and Drivetrain conversion [Cathy Greenlaw ps [jc & terry ] Heater core leaks ["Doug Mclaughlin" ] AOD [KLaff61624 ] Who's going to the Super Nationals [KLaff61624 ] Re: 1950 F-1 Engine and Drivetrain conversion [billjhs Re: 1950 F-1 Engine and Drivetrain conversion [Dyan65 ] Re: Who's going to the Super Nationals [FoMoCoNUT2 ] ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 08:58:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jan Subject: Re: 56 door locks Louise has passenger side only lock. She's certainly not the deluxe cab model. Only one visor... Shucks. Jan '53 Ford F-250 On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Justin McCrite wrote: > I've wondered the same thing. I had a '58 with locks on both doors. My uncle had a '59 without locks on either > door. > > David Stokes wrote: > > > One of my 56's has a locking drivers door, and the other one does not have > > a lock on the drivers side. Was this a special ordered option in 1956? And which one is more valuable? Any > > thoughts would be greatly appreciated > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 11:24:52 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: List downtime scheduled Saturday night at 8:00pm EST the lists will go down for the switch to the new list server. All posts to the old lists after this time will disappear into the bit bucket without a trace. Emails such as "why aren't my posts getting through" and "why is the list dead" will be ignored - take this as Fair Warning (Lord, strike that poor boy down.... sorry Deacon, couldn't resist). The switch should take a couple of hours but don't count on it. Once the switch takes place, an email will be sent to all list members containing subscribe, unsubscribe and posting instructions. After receiving this email you'll be able to post. Subscribe requests to the old server will simply result in an email containing new subscribe instructions. The web site and FAQ will be updated to reflect the server change. Also, no posts prior to downtime will get lost. I'll be forcing a digest to go out to digest members about 5 minutes before the shutdown so everyone will get their FTE fix. Ken Payne CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 15:55:43 +0100 From: "Tim Baker" Subject: headers I have a 56 f100 that I have finally got off the blocks and very soon will be running. I am trying to find a decent set of headers for it and do not have the cash to spend on custom setups. Does anybody know a part # or manufacturer that has headers for a 351w in a 56 f`100 w/c6. Your help would be might appreciated. Thanks to all who can help tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 17:50:16 -0500 From: "Brian Carrico" Subject: 1950 F-1 Engine and Drivetrain conversion I have a 1950 F-1 which still has the original L-head engine and transmission. I want to install a short block 302/351W. What is the best transmission to put in? And what about a drive shaft for the change? Many thanks and best regards. Shep shepherd ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 20:48:37 -0400 From: Cathy Greenlaw Subject: Re: 1950 F-1 Engine and Drivetrain conversion Brian Carrico wrote: > I have a 1950 F-1 which still has the original L-head engine > and transmission. > I want to install a short block 302/351W. > What is the best transmission to put in? > And what about a drive shaft for the change? Asking what transmission is best is like asking what the best beer is, it all depends. I personally think that the C4 is one of the better choices, but you know, they are getting old and scarce. There was a discussion some time ago about the FMX and lots of people felt that was a pretty good rig, but they are old scarce and heavy. A single rail OD (SROD) may be a good choice for a manual, but I'm not sure where the stick would come up and you need a hydraulic or cable linkage. This transmission was used with, among other things, 82 thur 85 or 86 Mustang and Capri V8's. It won't take gobs of torque but it's a nice driver.A '86 up 5 speed could alo be considered, then there's a C-6 (from a 300 inch 6) it's a pretty tough guy, but big and heavy. An automatic overdrive (AOD) with a shift improver kit is a good choice unless you want to drag race on a regular basis, but up to about 250HP, its a good unit, especially if you keep the original axle and gears. 4+:1 and the AOD's low gear will surprise lots of kids who don't know better than to challenge some old truck. The AOD has to be '88 or older (right?? help me out here) to avoid electronic shifts, and the kickdown cable has to be in place and properly adjusted. A Bronco II or Ranger (2WD) floor shift can be made to work for cheap money. The drive shaft is mostly a cost problem, you measure the distance, tailshaft to axle yoke, take the output yoke (try to get the whole driveshaft from the donor car), and the old driveshaft to a local shop, (call around) and they will make one up. You may need to get a longer shaft from a Crown Vic or something have it mated to the rear joint, if the truck shaft is too short. Ford uses about 2000 styles of U joints, if you intend to get into swapping, grab every drive shaft and yoke you can find, not only will they come in handy, but the wonderful feeling you get from looking thru a pile of 30 or 40 shafts that don't fit anything, can't be described. 47 Fred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 18:04:04 -0700 From: jc & terry Subject: ps an anyone tell me the pro's and con's of putting power steering on the front of my 55 F100. Would it be better to replace the steering box with a kit from Bob's F100's or go with the cylinder underneath as from SoCal? I have been told that using the box could crack the frame but I don't know of anyone that this has happened to Thanks Mike Morton i'm not sure of the 55 but a friend of mine put it on his 57. he went to the scrap yard and got a box and column out of a toyota(not sure what model). had to notch his frame to make it fit. i wasn't sure about dinkin' with a frame like this but he has welded professionally for years and said with a plated strong back it was tougher than original. i trust him and besides it's not my neck on the line if it breaks. has worked great for 3 years i know of and he goes everywhere. good luck. T-bird Terry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 21:43:16 -0500 From: "Doug Mclaughlin" Subject: Heater core leaks I have had some experience with radiator stop leak and none of it was good. It does stop the leak but it also plugged up the radiator. When I was younger I thought I knew it all (HA!) and I used the stuff in a couple of different radiators. At first I thought I had fixed the problem but every time I always had to take the radiator to a shop because after a couple of weeks it started overheating. The stuff plugs everything! I don't recommend using it. Radiators plug up fast enough on their own, no sense in helping it get there any faster. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 22:51:49 EDT From: KLaff61624 Subject: AOD I believe that 87 was the last year for the AOD without the electronics. Ken L. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 22:58:24 EDT From: KLaff61624 Subject: Who's going to the Super Nationals Hey just a bit curious about who is going to Piegion Forge and who is taking their trucks? Don I've lost your e-mail address, and yes my truck will be going on the 14th. I will be driving a Blue metalic 55 F-100 extended cab so if you folks happen to see me , stop by and say hello. Ken L. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 23:15:25 -0400 From: billjhs Subject: Re: 1950 F-1 Engine and Drivetrain conversion I put a 302/AOD in my 51 and it fits perfectly. Runs darn good too!!! Bill Brian Carrico wrote: > I have a 1950 F-1 which still has the original L-head engine > and transmission. > I want to install a short block 302/351W. > What is the best transmission to put in? > And what about a drive shaft for the change? > > Many thanks and best regards. > > Shep > shepherd > > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1960 and Older --------------+ > | Send posts to fordtrucks > | site. | > +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 00:05:29 EDT From: Dyan65 Subject: Re: 1950 F-1 Engine and Drivetrain conversion In a message dated 98-05-01 23:16:34 EDT, you write: > Please 1 more time I dont own a Ford get me off you'r list thankyou ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 00:20:48 EDT From: FoMoCoNUT2 Subject: Re: Who's going to the Super Nationals Will be there, will get the T-shirt...... don't know about bringing the truck,.... 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