fordtrucks-digest Sunday, April 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 113



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In this issue:

Heater Leak and Hose Rerouting ["Don & Teresa Neighbors"
Re: Hood ornaments, stuff from Carlisle [JRFiero ]
Re: heater core leaks [Jan ]
gas tank leak [Jan ]
Re: rear fuel tank for 56 [Justin McCrite ]
Re: 56 door locks [Justin McCrite ]
Re: Jan's plan "A" (stop leak) [RJC988 ]
another parts source ["ron harrison" ]
Re: rear fenders [MichellHC ]
The Great Rear Fender Debate ["Don & Teresa Neighbors"
53-59 models & engines [MichellHC ]
donor vehicles [Darcy Lee Davis ]
Re: The Great Rear Fender Debate [KLaff61624 ]
Re: 53-59 models & engines [Dan Koster ]
Re: donor vehicles [Dan Koster ]
Re: Free F-Series Catalog offer ["Ronald D. Miller" ]

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:37:41 -0400
From: "Don & Teresa Neighbors"
Subject: Heater Leak and Hose Rerouting

Jan wrote: "...I recently found a
leak in the heater coil. I removed it for inspection, re-routing one hose
back into the radiator for the summer, since I know I don't want the extra
heat in the cab."
Not only have I done the hose re-route when the heater went south on me,
but I have seen more than one person do it. It will make no difference in
Louise's ability to keep her cool unless the rest of the cooling system has
problems. As for the stop leak, I've had good luck, and bad with it. It
doesn't cost much to take the heater core to a radiator shop and have it
patched or recored, especially if you remove it yourself.
If you decide to use the stop leak, pour the whole continer in. I can say
I have had best luck with a stop leak product that looks like a jar full of
coffee with little chunks floating around in it. It's made by Bardahl, I
think.

Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:27:14 EDT
From: JRFiero
Subject: Re: Hood ornaments, stuff from Carlisle

In a message dated 98-04-14 23:31:11 EDT, you write:


>describing. In old magazine ads I've not seen them either. ...What is needed
is an >original ford sales brochure of available items, special items etc >>

I've been picking up Ford literature for my 51, and I'm 98% sure there was no
hood ornament option on the 48-52 trucks. Five Star Extra cabs had
'additional hood ornamentation,' but that refers to the strips on the side of
the hood.
Speaking of literature, I was up at Carlisle Wednesday and Thursday, and
one thing I picked up was a set (6) of Ford Truck Times for 1951. I'd seen
Ford Times before, but never Ford Truck Times. Little bimonthly pamphlet
thing with mostly stories of Ford Truck owners, with some technical
explanations. Neat.
Also picked up a guage set ($10! - a steal), correct radio knobs (hard to
find, $15 for two sets), a grill ($50), ordered a windshield ($100), had dual
tailpipes bent ($100), fuel pump with vacuum booster ($20), spare 15" rim
($5), glasspacks ($40.95), an oilbath air cleaner ($10), plus assorted other
stuff.

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:47:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jan
Subject: Re: heater core leaks

On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Gary Vandergrift wrote:

> Jan, I have had two heater cores go on me. When they go you cannot
> drive. the cab fills up with steam, the windows fog up... you are
> blind. Not to mention the antifreeze smell gets into everything. I
> think that you should put in a new one unless they can rebuild the one
> you have. I tried epoxy, solder, brazing, I could not fix it.
> Gary

Yup, Gary, I forgot to mention the ugly scene when the durned
thing busted. Raining cats and dogs, plenty of condensation
on the windshield anyway, and I thought for a moment Louise was
going to burn up...I'm off to the radiator expert ASAP. Thanks!

Jan

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:56:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jan
Subject: gas tank leak

Morning everyone!

Ah heck. Was planning a longer road trip (300 mi) with Louise and my beau
for early next week and it appears the gas tank is leaking at the top.
I'm thinking it's probably not too safe to take her out in that condition,
even if I don't fill 'er up all the way.

Now the good news is I have a brother of sorts between us and our final
destination who's got a big rig car hauling machine that could get Louise
back in one piece fer nothing should something major happen, which was
half the glory of taking her out for a longer drive: Insurance, so to
speak. Getting her back might take a couple weeks, but hey...free takes a
long time.

Making this trip or not comes down to safety, tho. Any thoughts? And
anyone know how difficult it is to take the tank out, what precautions to
take when doing so, and what kind of repair I might look for? Welding?
Some kind of sealant? Plan to take a closer peek later this morning and
will report back with more facts, but it looks like a small leak along the
top seam. Just slowly dripping out. One drip per 20-30 seconds. Lost
less than a pint of gas before it stopped as she sat stock still after
filling, though heaven knows what she lost when cruising home yesterday
and sloshing a bit at stops and starts.

In addition, I've noticed the gas guage has been acting kind of funny the
last week or so. Showing 3/4 plus at start, then going up toward full
after she's warm, then back down sometimes. Hmmm.

Jan
'53 Ford F-250
'55 232 straight 6

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:41:44 -0700
From: Justin McCrite
Subject: Re: rear fuel tank for 56

I saw an article in either Custom Classic Trucks or Classic Trucks where they put
a tank from a late 80's or early 90's Isuzu trooper in a '56. It fit very well
and looked easy to install. I can't find which issue it wasin right now though.


MichellHC wrote:

> Hi, need some sugestions for a rear mounted fuel tank for my 56 F-100. I am
> looking for something that will fit snugly between the 34" frame rails, and
> have the filler neck on the left. I am putting a gas tank door in the rear of
> the left fender. Also I am looking for something with about a tewnty gallon
> or more capaicity. I am sure someone has gone this route before and knows
> exactly what I am looking for.
>
> Thanks,
> Michelle C.
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:06:10 -0700
From: Justin McCrite
Subject: Re: 56 door locks

I've wondered the same thing. I had a '58 with locks on both doors. My uncle had a '59 without locks on either
door.

David Stokes wrote:

> One of my 56's has a locking drivers door, and the other one does not have
> a lock on the drivers side. Was this a special ordered option in 1956? And which one is more valuable? Any
> thoughts would be greatly appreciated
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:35:37 EDT
From: RJC988
Subject: Re: Jan's plan "A" (stop leak)

My vote goes with buying a new core if the hole cannnot be fixed by a
reputable rediator shop. Every time I have tried using stop leak (read: get
off cheap), it stops up everything but the leak!!!! None of my catalogs list
any past '57, but these run $199 (LMC) and $88 (John's F-Funhundreds).
Probably more than you want to spend, but you've got all summer! Hopefully
someone can patch yours!

Glenn in Bartlett
Soapy the '57 F-100

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:45:44 -0700
From: "ron harrison"
Subject: another parts source

I've had good luck dealing with Vintage Ford Parts at 11318 Beach Blvd in
Stanton, CA 90680, for 1909 through 1959 cars & trucks, for used or
remanufactured parts, such as grill, bumpers, tailgate, king-pins, trim,
and such. The owner is very knowledgable and doesn't seem to mind my flood
of questions. The phone number is (714)894-5464, with fax at
(714)894-4563. I've been satisfied with all the things I've bought there,
and enjoyed talking with a lot of serious Ford Fanatics I've met there.
Unfortunately I don't believe they are on the web, but maybe we could
convert them.

48 F1 Fever!

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:24:44 EDT
From: MichellHC
Subject: Re: rear fenders

About the rear fenders, Fred is right, please do measure them before buying
them. The reference I made about them being the same was from the parts book
covering 53 to 56. While it is true Ford only gave one part number for F-100
through F-350 except for the left with the wheel well dent for these years,
there were other years this fender was produced. Ford made these type fenders
for many more years and it is moer than likely that somewhere along the line
they did make an oversized fender for the F-250. As I had said I only ran the
numbers for 53 to 56, so please beware.

Michelle

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:46:48 -0400
From: "Don & Teresa Neighbors"
Subject: The Great Rear Fender Debate

Okay guys and gals, I have it! I have a '54 F250, and Ken Lafoon, has a
'56 F100, and lives only about an hour away as Grover drives. What say I
cruise over to his place, and we'll compare fenders, and see whose are
bigger?

Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:28:36 EDT
From: MichellHC
Subject: 53-59 models & engines

>Michelle,

>Thanks for the history (in 250 words or less). I must admit
>I had no idea a few of those series existed those years.
>You certainly brought the subject to light.

>There is something else you can help me with, and that is
>that I need to know all the models made each year, from
>1953-59.

>While you're at it, (I know I pressing my luck here) could
>you give me at least a general idea of what engines were
>offered in the larger trucks?

>Thanks,

>Dan

Allright Dan, here is your request.
1953 F-series 100, 250, 350, 500, 600, 700, 750, 800, 900
P- series (parcel delivery) 350, 500
C-series (cabover) 500, 600, 750, 800
B-series (bus chassie) 500, 600, 700,
1954 F-sreies 100, 250, 350, 500, 600, 700, 750, 800, 900
& T-series (tandem axel) 54 was first year for tandem axel T-700, 800
1955 P-series 350, 500, 600 (the 600 was by special order only)
C-series 500, 600, 700, 750, 800, 900
B-series 500, 600, 700, 750,
1956 same as 54 and 55 except that a T-750 was added

1957 F-series 100, 250, 350, 500, 600, 700, 750, 800, 900
T-series 700, 750, 800
P-series 350, 400, 500
C-series (none for 57)
B-series 500, 600, 700, 750
1958 F-series 100, 250. 350, 500, 600, 700, 750, 800, 900, 1000,1100
T-series 700, 750, 800, 850, 950
P-series 100, 350, 400, 500
C-series 550, 600, 700, 800, 850,900, 950, 1000, 1100
1959 same as 58

Engines: 1953 1954, 55
1956
code,cyls.,cubes
d 6 215 d 6 223
d 6 223
m 6 254 v 8 239
v 8 272 2v light dty
r 8 239 z 8 256
z 8 272 2v heavy dty
j 8 279 j 8 279
r 8 272 4v heavy dty
k 8 317 k 8 317
j 8 302 2v

a 8 302 4v

k 8 332 2v

s 8 332 4v

Engines
code,years,cyl,cid,carb
f 57/59 8 332 4v
j 57/60 6 223 1v
k 57 8 272 2v med duty
L 57/58 8 272 2v med duty
n 57/59 8 302 2v
u 57/58 8 272 4v heavy duty
c 58/59 8 292 2v med duty
d 58/59 8 292 2v heavy duty
p 58/59 8 401 4v
q 58/59 8 477 4v
r 58/59 8 453 4v


I got this information from the parts books. Hopefully it will be correct. Yes
Dan, you were pressing your luck.

Please note that in doing my research I did find the the 1100 series was
produced in more trucks than just the N series. It was also produced in the C
and F series for 58 and 59.

Michelle C.

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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 08:35:28 -0600 (MDT)
From: Darcy Lee Davis
Subject: donor vehicles

My parents just came back from Columbia (S. America), and the news
is that there is a disproportionate amount of pre-60s trucks still on the
street. To keep these trucks running given the abuse they take on
undeveloped roads etc., they must have some good parts sources. Although
Columbia is a ways away, I was wondering if anybody had checked what the
situation is in Mexico. If nothing else, it should be fairly easy to find
donor vehicles.
Darcy 3X48 F68

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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 22:07:16 EDT
From: KLaff61624
Subject: Re: The Great Rear Fender Debate

Your welcome anytime Don.


Ken L 55

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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 19:19:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Koster
Subject: Re: 53-59 models & engines

Michelle wrote:
>
> Allright Dan, here is your request...

> ... I got this information from the parts books. Hopefully it
> will be correct. Yes, Dan, you were pressing your luck.


I know. I had no idea the list would be so long. Thanks again.
You've been a great sport, Michelle.




To all list members:

Does anybody personally own a F-300 or larger? ('53-59, that is)
I would like to ask you a few questions about it.

Thanks,

Dan
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 19:32:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Koster
Subject: Re: donor vehicles

Darcy,

Actually, Mexico is a great place to find parts. However, you'll
probably end up with parts from your neighbor's missing truck.

There's been a disturbing trend last couple-o-years, and that is that
classic trucks (fifties as well as sixties) have turned up missing
more than ever before. (they're relatively easier to steal)

They have found out that these trucks are driven immediately to
Mexico, where they are sold for their ability to run leaded gasoline.
(plus, they last forever)

As far as professional resources are concerned, good luck. Most real
parts are shipped in from California and command a higher price than
the local junkyards. Which leads me back to my original comment.
You're likely to end up with stolen parts.

However, parts is parts, right?

Dan


p.s. They have even found missing vehicles amongst the police cars in
Mexico. Policy is, if it was used in a crime, they can repossess it
and keep it.



- ---Darcy Lee Davis wrote:
>
> My parents just came back from Columbia (S. America), and the news
> is that there is a disproportionate amount of pre-60s trucks still
on the
> street.





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DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Sun, 26 Apr 98 12:22:59 -0500
From: "Ronald D. Miller"
Subject: Re: Free F-Series Catalog offer

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Broadway, VA. For over 20 years we have been helping Ford enthusiasts
restore their rides. We sell both new and used parts. I will send any
member of the Ford truck list a free catalog (save $3.00 - $6.00 mailing
fee) if you email me your address and year of Ford truck to:
akraft shentel.net All email and snail mail addresses are
kept confidential. Catalogs available for 53-72, and 73-79. Secure....


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