fordtrucks-digest Monday, April 13 1998 Volume 02 : Number 100



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In this issue:

Oil Leak ["Don & Teresa Neighbors" ]
Re: hood hardware [Rich Garber ]
Panel insulation history ["Paul G." ]
Panel truck air flow ["Paul G." ]
56 F250 ["Paul G." ]
Hood Hardware [Stephen Silverthorn ]
Re: Panel truck air flow [Scott ]
Electronic Ignition for '47 1 1/2 ton ["Jon F. Grossardt"
stripes [MISTERHOBO ]
Re: Oil Leak [Cathy Greenlaw ]
Re: Hood Hardware [Rich Garber ]
Steering box [billjhs ]
insulation [KLaff61624 ]
Re: 56 F250 [KLaff61624 ]
Old trucks [Ray Cardogno ]
parts source [David Stokes ]
56 driver door locks [David Stokes ]
brakes [GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)]
Re: insulation [Cdalep ]
Re: whiners [Justin McCrite ]
pre 60's Ford [Darcy Lee Davis ]

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 08:22:57 -0400
From: "Don & Teresa Neighbors"
Subject: Oil Leak

For those of you whose ears I have been bending on the subject of Grover's
excessive oil usage. I think I found the problem yesterday, and I feel
quite the idiot!
I installed the top half of the new neoprene seal backwards. Worse thing
is, I've performed this same operation on other vehicles I've owned, and
this is the first time I've committed this mistake! The temptation to knock
myself in the head with my ball peen hammer was almost overwhelming!

Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 09:35:18 -0500
From: Rich Garber
Subject: Re: hood hardware

At 01:11 PM 4/11/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>I found one in a junk yard, it was the only thing left on the truck.
>Its not perfect but I got it for $4.00. Sounds like I got a bargin.
>
>Rich
>54 F100
>
>i'll give ya $20 for it. that's a pretty slick profit, huh. 500%. tell us
>what it looks like. how long did they make these?
>T-bird terry
>
>
My neighbor might have an extra. I'll check. Its a airplane, about 7"
long, I know you could get them on 53 and 54, not sure how long they
were available.

Rich
54 F100

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 09:58:19 -0400
From: "Paul G."
Subject: Panel insulation history

I have insulated my panel with a combo of items. I used spray expanding
foam in some places hard to get to, where stiffness is desired, such as
in and around the top bows, etc.
I used a double faced foil sandwich material about 3/8" thick, I can't
recall the name, but it is sold by building supply companies, comes in
rolls (might be the same stuff earlier mentioned, but the name is
different) about 4'wide. I have seen it used inside of roll up garage
doors on one job where I was doing ceramic tile. It is easily glued
with contact cement or 3M spray adh fm auto paint supply stores.
In the back doors where access is really rough, I wrapped fibreglass
insulation cut to size inside a thick pair of trash bags, duct taped
shut, and slid them through the circular access holes in the doors.
Actually, just the main door (right side) has this hole (looks like a
metal speaker cutout). I had an extra cutout hole, so I cut on into the
other door in a matching position.
I also used fibreglass/trash bags deal loosely in the remaining space on
the walls and ceiling after gluing the foil stuff directly to the
metal. I did the floor with the foil stuff also, before carpet.
I also did the firewall inside, etc, etc all floors, with the foil stuff
and this thing is really quiet.
Now if I can only figure out how to exhaust the air I'll be OK.
By the way, I've insulated two other vehicles with this foil/fibreglass
in trash bags combo with no problems. Both of them were eventually
stripped to nothing by me, and I specifically looked for any damage etc.
to the fibreglass/trash bags or surrounding walls with no problems.
Sorry for the long post, but after riding in many old trucks which were
sharp, but sounded like a tin can from the inside, I think the
insulation is much overlooked.
Paul G.

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:01:57 -0400
From: "Paul G."
Subject: Panel truck air flow

The cut the vent through the plywood floor seems worth pursuing, since I
don't want to cut the sheetmetal, unless I can locate a nearly or all
flush vent for the roof (probably impossible).
Paul G.

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:04:47 -0400
From: "Paul G."
Subject: 56 F250

I ran across a guy with 2-'56 F250s. If anyone has any specific needs,
I'll check it out for you.
Paul G.

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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 21:11:19 -0400
From: Stephen Silverthorn
Subject: Hood Hardware

I found one in a junk yard, it was the only thing left on the truck.
Its not perfect but I got it for $4.00. Sounds like I got a bargin.

Rich
54 F100

i'll give ya $20 for it. that's a pretty slick profit, huh. 500%. tell us
what it looks like. how long did they make these?
T-bird terry


Rich,

Check on the back and see if has that long Ford part number, probably
BAA******....
If it does let me know the number and I'll check it out with my buddy to
see if it's the real macoy.
If it's authentic then you should get it to your local chromer for a fast
plating job and then take it, or send it with someone, to Pigeon Forge in
May. That's were you'll get the big bucks. Some guy's just have to have
every option going.

The other option is to sell it to T-bird Terry for the 500% profit, which
isn't a bad deal either. I'll see if I can find out how long they made these.

Steve
Black 56

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:46:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Panel truck air flow

- ---"Paul G." wrote:
>
> The cut the vent through the plywood floor seems worth pursuing,
since I
> don't want to cut the sheetmetal, unless I can locate a nearly or all
> flush vent for the roof (probably impossible).
> Paul G.
Depending where your license plate is, you could have the air vent out
from behind the license plate if it is mounted on the door. This
would be hidden from the outside and only visible from inside the only
problem might be exhaust comming in when you are stopped at lights.
Scott
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DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 14:53:39 -0500
From: "Jon F. Grossardt"
Subject: Electronic Ignition for '47 1 1/2 ton

Does anyone know of a source for an electronic ignition system for a stock '47 truck
engine (6V system) with the front mounted distributor?

Thanks in advance.

Jon

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 16:39:28 EDT
From: MISTERHOBO
Subject: stripes

I dont know if anyone would be interested... but...

I work for a sign shop, and I can make custom car stripe kits fairly quickly
and rather inexpensively... so if anyone is interested email me directly...

JiM

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:01:08 -0400
From: Cathy Greenlaw
Subject: Re: Oil Leak

Don & Teresa Neighbors wrote:

>
> I installed the top half of the new neoprene seal backwards. The temptation
> to knock
> myself in the head with my ball peen hammer was almost overwhelming!

It can't be that bad, wasn't the old oil dripping on your head punishment enough?47
Fred

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:35:42 -0500
From: Rich Garber
Subject: Re: Hood Hardware

>
>Check on the back and see if has that long Ford part number, probably
>BAA******....
>If it does let me know the number and I'll check it out with my buddy to
>see if it's the real macoy.
>If it's authentic then you should get it to your local chromer for a fast
>plating job and then take it,

>Steve
>Black 56
>
Steve,

The number is located on the underneith, front in a resessed area.
The number is # BF-16850-A 9639. Let me know, I guess I'll put this
one in the house now (mabey on its own pillow).

Rich
54 F100

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:23:17 -0400
From: billjhs
Subject: Steering box

Hello to all,

Anyone know a good rebuilder of steering boxes for 51 f1's???? Or is it
easy to rebuild yourself???

BIll

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:44:48 EDT
From: KLaff61624
Subject: insulation

Cliff ......How much does the insulation normally cost?

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:57:05 EDT
From: KLaff61624
Subject: Re: 56 F250

Paul , do any of them have the big back window option?

Ken L.

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 23:05:06 -0400
From: Ray Cardogno
Subject: Old trucks

>fordtrucks-digest Sunday, April 12 1998 Volume 02 : Number 099
>
>
>
>=======================================================================
>From: Rich Garber
>Subject: Old Trucks
>
>>Awhile back there was a discussion about finding 53 to 55 fords.
>>Well there still out there. Guy next door just picked up a 53
>>came from MT., has a 302 in it (put gas in it and a battery and
>>it started right up). The sheetmetal is in very good condition it
>>was about 10 miles from my home. Now the sicking news (for me, anyhow)
>>Picked it up for $400.00. I've driven by it a 100 times, just never
>>saw it!
>>
>>So keep looking!
>>
>>Rich
>>54 F100

It's a great idea to keep looking. Let me cheer you up. Be thankful that
your neighbor found it first. You will have something in common with the
guy. All my neighbors think I'm crazy, especially when I bring a new gem
home. I am sure they are partly right.

Gotta love it,
Ray C

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:10:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Stokes
Subject: parts source

Regarding the catlougs, I too had an old one from Northern, and I called
to get on their mailing list, after about a month, I called again to find
out where my catalog was and they told me that they batched processed
their requrests. Once I was processed I have been getting them regularly.
Just some food for thought.

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:12:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Stokes
Subject: 56 driver door locks

I have three 56's two of the driver doors have locks and one doesn't. Was
this an option at that time or what? Any thoughts?

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 23:27:01, -0500
From: GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)
Subject: brakes

Go to a good auto parts store, one with a large supply and variety of
fittings. Get a Tee to mate 2 Inverted flare brake lines to one NPT
thread. (I don't recall the exact sizes involved) Take a sample of
your brake fittings and your brake light switch. You will also need a
short piece of brake line to connect your cylinder to the Tee. You
can put the Tee in any line.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
351C-4V

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 23:41:04 EDT
From: Cdalep
Subject: Re: insulation

Ray Will have a price list on the Armaflex some time monday.
Cliff

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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:46:40 -0700
From: Justin McCrite
Subject: Re: whiners

Okay, I'm done whining now. I guess I was just wondering why a guy calling
himself T-bird Terry would be praising chevy's. I guess i'm just another
closeminded Ford nut (it's a loyalty thing, my dad was a Ford man, and my sons are
becoming Ford boys) I guess I'm also jealous, I had to sell my '58 so I could go to
automotive school. I had to buy a Honda civic (I almost had to kick my own ass) but
it was only $500 and it gets over 30 mpg, which is good because i drive 50 miles
round trip every day to school. As soon as I graduate it's for sale. Anyone
interested?

jc & terry wrote:

> What is this "T-Bird" Terry guy doing on this list? When I subscribed to this
> list, I thought I wouldn't have to listen to guys that actually think chevy's
> are better than Fords. I get enough crap at school (Arizona Automotive
> Institute) from the chevy guys. This is a Ford truck list, if you don't like
> Fords please keep your negative comments to yourself. The rest of us would like
> to enjoy talking and bragging about our Fords without some little bowtie
> wearing guy butting in.
>
> if you whiners would start talking about trucks and quit talking about how
> you don't like other people's choice of motorvation we could move on. i got
> 2 sweet ford trucks and a cherry 65 bird so i don't need any lectures from
> you about what i drive. stop yur baby whining and talk about trucks. i
> mentioned the cleveland, i mentioned the 460, i mentioned the lincoln. what
> did you mention? who has to run on about chevies? yur right this is a truck
> list and what we do with them. if calling people names and whining is what
> you want try www.crybabies.com. try talking mechanics and facts.
> read the name
> T-bird Terry
>
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 23:14:05 -0600 (MDT)
From: Darcy Lee Davis
Subject: pre 60's Ford

I am in the process of restoring a 1948 Ford F-68. I would like to keep it
as original as possible, but my running boards are in awful shape. I would
like to find some steel boards to replace them, but all the parts sources
I have only sell fiberglass ones. Also, as the truck (like most) spent
over 25 years in a lot, it has rust everywhere. When I get the new paint
on I don't want rust to spread out from the spots I can't get at such as
the radiator brace. I was thinking of just covering these spots with a....

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