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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 03:50:26 -0700 (MST)
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fordtrucks-digest Monday, December 22 1997 Volume 01 : Number 086



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In this issue:

Re: ADMIN: IRC chat [Pea Soup A ]
Alignment ["Mark Wilson" ]
Ford D series pic. [Ken Payne ]
ADMIN: Web pics, integrity and chat [Ken Payne ]
1960 F-100 Wiring Harness ["pk.middlebrooks"
RE: Alignment [Ethan Vos ]
Re: 1952 ford [TNickolson ]
RE: fordtrucks-digest V1 #85 [Wesley Ashworth ]
Taking Chances ["Don & Teresa Neighbors" ]

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 10:26:09 EST
From: Pea Soup A
Subject: Re: ADMIN: IRC chat

count me in...l'm really computer illiterit so type slow....

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 08:27:12 +0000
From: "Mark Wilson"
Subject: Alignment

Merry Christmas everybody!

Does anyone have any suggestions for doing a front-end
alignment myself? I was thinking about checking the toe-in by
using a couple of yardsticks and measuring the distance
between the inside front edges of the wheels and the inside back
edges of the wheels. I think that there should be about 1/4"
of toe-in. My '55 front end is basically stock but has been lowered
somehow, perhaps the springs have been heated.

.....
*********
*************
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' o_) *****
_/\ ******
Later, /( .*******.
Mark `-------\*********.
*******************.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.deltanet.com/users/wilson

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 14:28:21 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Ford D series pic.

A few people have inquired about the D series Ford trucks.
A small sample JPG image is on the web site:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/fordd-56.jpg

Ken

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 15:54:12 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: ADMIN: Web pics, integrity and chat

Web Site Pictures
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About 2 weeks ago I was informed by a member that another
site had taken several graphic images from our pictorial and
was using them on his page without permission. I do not hold
the copyright to these images, the owners of the trucks do.
I simply put them on the site for the world to enjoy. I do,
however, feel that I have an obligation to the owners of the
vehicles on the site. They need to know that I will not use
the pictures for commercial gain.

Whenever I have been approached by an individual concerning
use of the pictures I've always asked them to question the
owner. In this case no one was asked. The pictures where
put on a commercial Ford truck restoration page. I emailed
the admin, asking him to either remove the pictures or
get permission. I was ignored. Yesterday I sent another
email stating that if action was not taken I would contact
their provider (who has a strict policy against such things).
Today I got an email telling me I was hassling him and he
was merely trying to show what restored trucks looked like.

He did not offer to take the pictures off or contact the
owners. Instead, he told me that it was **my** responsibility
to get the owners in touch with him. I have contacted his
host provider concerning this and the matter is no longer in my
hands. If you have any comments, questions, or concerns please
email me privately (this stuff doesn't belong on the discussion
groups) at kpayne mindspring.com.

Integrity
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We skate a very thin line, as FTE isn't really a big commercial
site; yet it does have advertisers to support its efforts. No
one is getting rich from the web site (especially considering the
hours we put in to keep everything going!).

We will continue to offer the lists, web classifieds, chat, etc and
we will also expand our free services for the hobbyist/enthusiast
as advertising revenue allows. Since the beginning, Ford Truck
Enthusiasts has been a hobbyist effort. The members here come
first. Every time our income has grown we've increased our
services. In the beginning we operated through the generousity
of the members (thanks to Deacon for getting the ball rolling).
It is our intention to have the highest level of integrity
so that members can continue to enjoy discussion free of
advertising and editorial influences.

We started out January 1997 with one list, no digest and less than
12 members. We've since grown to 3 lists (4th comes on line
tomorrow), live and digest, with nearly 1500 members. It has
grown from 1-2 hours of weekly administration to 1-3 hours of
daily administration. Traffic has grown from a few dozen weekly
messages to over 1000 weekly messages. Who would have guessed that
a simple urge to talk with other truck owners would have come this
far?

Next week, another item may come up for a vote, depending on whether
a new advertiser joins us - giving us the extra revenue we need
to support the item.... don't you just love the suspense?

Chat
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After the first of the year, we will be getting server side Java.
The chat page will operate using this. The IRC option has been
"thrown out" because we did some checking with users (as opposed
to "techies") and it seems that the average person has difficulty
setting up IRC. Peggy and I get enough questions on a daily basis
(80-200 emails daily, sometimes more) without having to deal with
the nightmare of helping people with IRC. In the meantime, the
chat script is now back on line until we have the Java engine
going. My apologies go out to those who have been eagerly awaiting
IRC (don't worry though, the Java applet I've got does nearly
everything IRC does without setup hassles). I've been wrestling
with this decision all week and I hope I've made the right choice.

If anyone wishes to talk to us online, one of us is usually on the
chat page around 10pm eastern time. Comments, suggestions and
questions welcome: kpayne mindspring.com

Wishing all the members a safe and happy holiday season,

Ken & Peggy Payne
CoAdmins (err, List Moms?), Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 15:56:46 -0800
From: "pk.middlebrooks"
Subject: 1960 F-100 Wiring Harness

I'm starting to restore my in-laws 1960 F-100, and no one seems to make a
wiring harness specifically for that year. In fact, I was told that there
was some problem with the way that the headlight switch was made in 1960.
I've checked with Sacramento, Macs, Narragansett, and a couple of other
places with no success. Does anyone know why 1960 is such a bad year (is
it because of the light switch?), and does anyone have any suggestions?

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 17:49:46 -0500
From: Ethan Vos
Subject: RE: Alignment

More like 1/8 toe in.

Don't get confused between alignment and centering the steering wheel, they're not the same.

Ethan


- -----Original Message-----
From:Mark Wilson [SMTP:wilson deltanet.com]
Sent:Sunday, December 21, 1997 3:27 AM
To:fordtrucks ListService.net
Subject:Alignment

Merry Christmas everybody!

Does anyone have any suggestions for doing a front-end
alignment myself? I was thinking about checking the toe-in by
using a couple of yardsticks and measuring the distance
between the inside front edges of the wheels and the inside back
edges of the wheels. I think that there should be about 1/4"
of toe-in. My '55 front end is basically stock but has been lowered
somehow, perhaps the springs have been heated.

.....
*********
*************
.* *****.
.' ****.
' o_) *****
_/\ ******
Later, /( .*******.
Mark `-------\*********.
*******************.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.deltanet.com/users/wilson



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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 20:50:48 EST
From: TNickolson
Subject: Re: 1952 ford

You were asking for Tom Nickolson. My email address is Tnickolson aol.com

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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 20:11:15 -0600
From: Wesley Ashworth
Subject: RE: fordtrucks-digest V1 #85

Sorry, this isn't about classic trucks, though I do have a 55 F100 and
enjoy.

I was given a 1973 eldorado convertible. It's been stored in a barn for 10
or so years. The top was down in storage, so the whole car has about a
half inch of mud everywhere. Will it hurt to bad to take the thing to a
high pressure carwash and blow it out? It's got leather seats in decent
condition.

Anyone know of a cadallic news group?

Thanks Wesley

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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 00:18:24 -0500
From: "Don & Teresa Neighbors"
Subject: Taking Chances

As of Tuesday, I will be off work until January 5. I have to work on my
truck in the driveway, not in the comfort of a heated garage. What do you
think my chances are that we will have decent weather here in Kentucky....


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